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Media quick reference for live video:

Action News 5: http://www.wmctv.com/category/196691/action-news-5-live-video-coverage?redirected=true

WBBJ tv (Jackson, TN): http://www.livestream.com/wbbj   WSMV 4 (Nashville, TN): http://www.wsmv.com/video/9624406/index.html

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=2447

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=7736   Decauter County Sheriff, Fire & EMS, Parsons Police live audio feed

https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley (https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/25/holly-bobo-whitney-duncan_n_853427.html

From the previous thread:

Yep - posts gone from the Bring Holly Bobo Home Safe fb  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 :thumleft: High five Klaas, that was a quick and great team effort right there!

Here's the admin's post:

Bring Holly Bobo home safe
Please, if anyone here knows Holly and or her family, I pray that you care enough about them to NOT post any personal info on this page to a complete stranger. Any one posting and asking for personal information is going to be banned. And another thing. Her NAME is "Holly".. NOT "Baby Girl"...
Bring Holly Bobo home safe
Please, if anyone here knows Holly and or her family, I pray that you care enough about them to NOT post any personal info on this page to a complete stranger. Any one posting and asking for personal information is going to be banned. And another thing. Her NAME is "Holly".. NOT "Baby Girl"...
http://www.facebook.com/BHBHS?sk=wall

Can we add the quick links that we had at the beginning of the first thread on page one of this new thread?    Add this one since it is used often for updates on the search efforts:

https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley (https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley)

Warning - likely a false rumor

Jan Scott Speer
dont know if i should post this or not, but someone one of my fb friends just posted that holly is alive. said he couldnt reveal more and couldnt confirm it but it looks probable. lets pray it is true

http://www.facebook.com/BHBHS?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/BHBHS?sk=wall)

Stacy Taylor this has not been confirmed. the admins of this page will post updates that are factual. and they will delete posts that are not.
9 minutes ago · Like

Jan Scott Speer right, not confirmed
http://www.facebook.com/BHBHS

She didnt copy the post or give a name of who posted it...yes I would put this in rumor bin

Klaas, that person removed their post

PS Tony is at it again on another thread inquiring about a person in another case & he doesnt even know what a POI is...enough said

Hmmm...that phony guy had me freaking at his use of "Baby Girl"...

Around these parts no one but her mother and father have that right unless it's possibly a husband after about 30 years of marriage and even then the husband wouldn't probably say it in front of her parents!

It's just a Southern "thang"...and it is offensive as it is considered to be usurping parental endearments. One of our best and worst attributes in the rural South is taking things literally. Some wrongly see it as being a symptom of seeming uneducated; others realize that we expect a person to say what they mean and mean what they say. It relates back to that whole concept of your word being your bond.

Old-fashioned values are still the norm in the rural South. I really couldn't tell you if it's different in the larger cities because I'm much more familiar with the towns of 5000 or less. (Shoot, when most of us go off to college, our campus has a larger population than our entire town.) I think that's one reason mainstream media has so misunderstood the area's protectiveness of the family. In a small town, if you don't know someone personally, someone in your family most likely does. That's why this abduction of Holly has seemed so personal to everyone and they've circled the wagons to minister to Holly's family.

What I am having trouble understanding in some part, however, is if there really is a family out there who knows one of theirs is involved in this abduction. Family honor and integrity is of major importance around here. I realize that this will be a black eye on the family but as time progresses and those who may know are not forthcoming, they are contributing to the dishonor and tarnish on the family name. It's time to do the honorable thing and if they can't persuade that family member to surrender, then they need to follow their own conscience. I cannot believe their inner voices of right and wrong are silent.

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(Addressing this to you in the hope you are reading... You've been told all your life that when you know right from wrong and choose to do wrong, it is sin.  You do know the right thing to do.  Just do it!  Let others sort it out...you can't undo what was done but you can start to set it right. Family loyalty should not override what you know is the right thing to do. Unload that burden by calling and telling what you know. You know exactly what you should do so quit weighing the risk and just do what's right. I know you must feel conflicted but deep in your soul, you know you need to share what you know. Reach deep, find the courage, and make that call.)

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Capp, I really enjoyed your description of the folks' reaction to the woman on the bus who mentioned the ransom money.  I can absolutely picture it...LOL.  All I can wonder is if she's from "these parts..."  First of all, it's often considered bad taste to discuss money period but when it's discussed in relation to someone's loved one, those words are practically a call to arms!  Plus, I'm sure they found it quite offensive that anyone would mention money while on a mission of compassion.  Contrary to what many believe, there really are things that money can't buy and one of those things is compassion and doing the right thing. When people around here say, "You couldn't pay me to...." it often literally means that they will do it for you but would never in a lifetime do it for hire. In other words, no amount of money would be enough but they do it out of simple human kindness.

O Toy you have no idea!  I seriously thought she was going to get torn from limb to limb & tossed outta the bus!   As many know by now, I'm a Jersey girl that moved down south a few years ago & truthfully my moral compass is better suited here.  I was right there with them & they got a lesson in a few choice words I spoke in Italian, it provided some much needed humor in a rather few tense moments.

I enjoy your posts about southern living so much & they are so greatly appreciated.   I am glad you discussed the "babygirl" reference, just by that alone I put a red flag on this @$$hat we are all speaking about tonight.   I call my daughter that all the time & often refer to her as such but I consider that my "honor," and certainly not for a stranger to refer to her as.   Now, if I'm talking about a child who is of toddler age or less I might refer to that child as a baby girl such as I often did when discussing Caylee Marie BUT only meant to denote her age versus a term of endearment that wasn't mine to state.    Incidentally, within my community & the one I had the pleasure of lending a hand to this weekend I gotta say the hospitality & general goodness in so many is a blessing to witness especially when some of us deal with the muck of society so often.

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The new justification found during a hunt for Holly Bobo was her dungeon phone, found roadside on Hwy. 69.

Although law coercion are not divulgence any information concerning a “significant” object found during Sunday’s search, a member of a hunt teams has suggested to a author that a object was Holly’s dungeon phone, located on side of a highway on Hwy. 69 in Parsons, circuitously Kolpack, a circuitously factory, and a Tennessee Technology Center, where Holly was attending school. Volunteers from a hunt parties also associated to Fox 13′s Eearle Farrell that a object was Holly’s dungeon phone.

http://www.mobile-bridge.com/?p=10782

I read the whole thing, who writes like that?

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The new evidence found during the search for Holly Bobo was her cell phone, found roadside on Hwy. 69.

Although law enforcement are not revealing any information concerning the "significant" item found during Sunday's search, a member of the search teams has revealed to the author that the item was Holly's cell phone, located on side of the road on Hwy. 69 in Parsons, near Kolpack, a nearby factory, and the Tennessee Technology Center, where Holly was attending school. Volunteers from the search parties also related to Fox 13's Eearle Farrell that the item was Holly's cell phone.

Read more at Suite101: Missing Holly Bobo Update: Cell Phone Found Roadside http://www.suite101.com/content/missing-holly-bobo-update-cell-phone-found-roadside-a367810#ixzz1KbAqRth8

Search For Whitney Duncan's Missing Cousin Turns Up Evidence
First Posted: 04/25/11 04:17 PM ET Updated: 04/25/11 04:17 PM ET

Authorities in west Tennessee are examining potential evidence in the search for Holly Bobo, the 20-year-old cousin of country music star Whitney Duncan. The young nursing student has been missing since she was abducted from outside her home earlier this month, police said.

"We have taken in hundreds of pieces of possible evidence, so we are sorting through it to see if it is related to Holly or not," Kristin Helm, a spokeswoman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, told The Huffington Post.

On Sunday, investigators announced they had found a "significant" item. Volunteers reportedly told Fox 13's Earle Farrell the significant piece of evidence is a cell phone. Helm declined to comment and would only say that there are "lots of rumors and speculation."

Capp's note:

GCoy1 Greg Coy
Volunteers tell FOX13's Earle Farrell significant piece eevidence in Holly Bobo case is cell phone. Earle waiting to hear from authorities.
13 hours ago
https://twitter.com/#!/GCoy1 (https://twitter.com/#!/GCoy1)


Bobo was last seen on April 13 outside her family's house in Darden, a small community about 100 miles northeast of Memphis. A neighbor called 911 when she heard a woman screaming shortly after 7:30 a.m. Bobo's 25-year-old brother, who was inside the house at the time, also called 911.
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ccording to police, Bobo's brother said he saw her being led away from the home by a man dressed in camouflage, into a nearby wooded area. He said he initially thought it was her boyfriend, but became concerned when he noticed blood on the ground outside the residence.

Local and state law enforcement authorities have coordinated massive search efforts behind Bobo's home and throughout the surrounding area. In the days following her disappearance, investigators found what they described as a vital clue in her abduction.    Capp's note:  behind Bobo's home is exactly where our crew was Saturday
 ::snipping2::
According to police, Bobo's boyfriend and family members are cooperating with the investigation. None of them have been named suspects or persons of interest in the case.

Whitney Duncan has been posting regular messages about her cousin's disappearance to various social networking websites and has also joined in several foot searches.

"Out searching for Holly. Keep the prayers going up please," Duncan tweeted on Saturday.

Capp's note:  Im posting what she said

Whitney Duncan
I've done 1 interview & only because I was told it might help get the word out about Holly, and I was such an emotional wreck after it, that I said I would not do any more. So to all the people that have negative things to say about anyone in my family, God will deal with you. Unfortunately you are making this even harder on a family that is suffering. To the people that pray and help, thank you so much.
http://www.facebook.com/whitneyduncan?sk=wall&filter=2

Please insert this link to the above post at the top
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/25/holly-bobo-whitney-duncan_n_853427.html

This is a radio guy in the area:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1087626372&sk=wall#hollybobo

Bill Way
Holly Bobo IS alive. wish i cud tell you more. but can't. Unconfirmed. But extremely possible it appears.
2 hours ago

Bill Way the info is very probable. but in this business you never know until the authorities speak.
2 hours ago

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This is a close family...Holly is so important and special to us. I just want to share this picture of my mom, her sis & Holly's mom Karen, me and holly and our Grandmother. She is too precious to us!! It's been 2 days. Please help and spread her picture everywhere & pray someone recognizes her & calls authorities. Thank you & God bless.
http://www.facebook.com/whitneyduncan?sk=wall&filter=2

I tried the link as says unavailable...

Try it again Jerseygirl, it's working for me.  Sometimes Facebook has glitches.

Hmmm...I always find this strange when only one person is stating something - it happened a few days ago as well & that was found to be untrue very quickly.   That being said, I hope its true but I wouldnt want to be him if it isnt

I agree Capp.  Find it unusual that someone that is somewhat of a known radio person would put himself out there like that.

Gotta say good night, must shut down our computers due to my tornado sirens are going off...should be fine & pass relatively quickly with what I see on local news being reported

Praying today is the day Holly comes home.

I'm still working my way through the first thread, but I wanted to ask  .........

Does anyone know where Holly was in her nursing program? Given her age, I'd guess she was a Junior?

I know it's been speculated that someone was stalking her, and I saw where some have said maybe it was someone who knew her from school. I'm wondering if it was a patient or client she encountered during her clinicals or during a community rotation.

http://www.utm.edu/departments/caas/nursing/courses.php

3rd year, mental health nursing course.

4th year, community health.

Just a thought. Sorry if this has been brought up on last thread.

BBM - I may be way behind here but what is a "dungeon phone"?

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20110426/NEWS25/104260311
Stormy weather to delay search as hunt for Holly Bobo continues

Unless his Facebook page was hijacked.  It may not be the radio guy posting at all.

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Law enforcement officials are asking volunteers to hold off in their search for Holly Bobo until a severe weather system leaves the area this week.

Volunteers are being asked to return to Decatur County Thursday if the 20-year-old missing nursing student is not found by then. Severe storms expected to be in the area today and tomorrow will keep volunteers from looking for Bobo.

"We don't want to put (the volunteers) at risk," said Tennessee Highway Patrol Lt. Brad Wilbanks, "Law enforcement will still be around to respond to anything we find as it comes up."

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20110426/NEWS25/104260311/1002/rss

Found this at Topix:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/decaturville-tn/TK55ARE5SO6IVJ2JE/p31

Bill Way is on the radio right now talking about it. 101.5 of www.WNWS.com

He can't give any details, but he has a very credible source, and he believes that it is going to come to an end really soon. He says he will tell us everything he knows when he can, but that nothing can be released as of this time. He says that he thought about sharing what he knew on the radio, but that he doesn't want to risk his reputation when all the facts may not be totally true. He is now on the phone with the sheriff about storm damage, but I'm sure someone else will call in asking about it.

If you think back to last Monday, the rumor that was started involved 3 guys too. I just wonder, how much of that story was true?

Thanks 04Bull - I hope he's right!

Good morning

I would ignore this altogether at this point because it would have broke this morning if there was any merit to it.   IMHO, there is no way from when this was initially posted to now that the TBI would have put off speaking to a possible proof of life to some degree knowing how the community has pulled together to find her with that hope.

My area and a bit north of me got thru the first wave of storms with more expected later today.   It looks like volunteer ground searches are being postponed until Thursday, reported up to this minute.   The investigation continues.
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willnunley Will Nunley
Even though volunteer searches are said to be limited now, authorities remain around the clock in Decatur County. #hollybobo
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

willnunley Will Nunley
RT @HurricaneMike50 This is going to be a very long next 24 hours of weather folks. Latest models don't look good. http://bit.ly/halnU8
https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley (https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley)

Im listening to him live right now to see if he brings it up again

http://www.mainstreamnetwork.com/watch/viewer2.asp?station=wnws-fm&

I've been listening for a while now and he's not mentioned it.

This Bill on the radio just said "the detailed levels by so many positions of authority" makes it believable & he cant be the only one that was told this.   He said that he's got to believe that his sources are credible but until the TBI and other LE comes forward he's not going to spread it.

I pray he's right but as I said last night if he's spread this and it turns out to be totally unfounded & he put it on the air wave, I sure as heck would not want to be him.

He just did

lol...of course he did.  I had to walk away from the computer.  Never fails. 

Wow.  I just learned something new.  I didn't know that you had to trip your main breaker if using a generator.

Radio guy just said that the info from LE is deliberately misleading.

I just tweeted Will Nunley of WBBJ to check on this so I'll be checking back for a response

Is this is English?

Hi Capp - I have been following your posts on Holly.  Thanks for your selflessness on helping with the search.

What purpose would it serve for authorities to keep the public in the dark, if she has been found or located?  This guy (on the radio) even said other rumors on his show about where she might be.

You don't have to answer what their purpose would be, but can you even think of a purpose as to why the public would not be told she was found?

Thanks again for your service and opinions, I like reading your posts.

Cad

LOL...I was confuzzled last night, who writes like that!  On the previous page I linked up to a Huffington Post article, etc. that this mumbo jumbo led me to

Lol. I'll look for the Huff. post article.

Well, he's a local radio guy so I can think of only one reason being even remotely possible BUT its not being reported by not one other source out there.  I'm having difficulty accepting that it would go from yesterday to this point & only by one source.

Thanks for your response!

Cad & everyone,

Thank you for your kind words, being close enough to lend a hand I couldnt live with myself if I didnt.   My sentiment is evidenced by an entire community that feels the same.

Reminds me of when you translate a foreign news report.

i really hope this rumor that she could be alive true.  i guess i'm being cautiously optimistic even though statistically it is likely that this is not the case, however i am reminded of cases such as shawn hornbeck and jaycee dugard.

Well I havent gotten a response back from Will Nunley & Im listening to this "Mr. Bill" and it went to politics....shoot me now!

sunshine

Bill Way is not an anonymous poster.  From what little I have read he is a respected public figure.  What would this guy have to gain by undermining the words of TBI spokesperson in press conference ... words that imply a completely difference account encompassing the disappearance of Holly Bobo.

I don't know what to think.  This is crazy.

Janet

no idea if this is true, RUMOR from Topix. I'm hoping she is alive.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/parsons-tn/TK55ARE5SO6IVJ2JE/p31 (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/parsons-tn/TK55ARE5SO6IVJ2JE/p31)

post #631 from Leah:
I really have no clue. I'll give you the short story. The rumor was that she had been found in a cabin in Natchez Trace last Monday, 4/11. They found this out because someone came forward that knew about it and said that if LE would keep him from getting into trouble that he would tell them who the 3 guys were. Supposedly, they rescued Holly, airlifted her to Vandy, and are now trying to piece together enough to arrest the 3 guys. Remember, this was just a RUMOR, even though several people at the fairgrounds swear that they saw the helicopter fly over....now 3 guys have been mentioned again by Bill Way. As for who the guys are, I have no idea. Pretty far fetched in my opinion, but I trust Bill Way.

i'm sorry but unfortunately i just cannot believe that this scenario would be true. there's no way this would have been kept quiet for this long

Since 4/11, Im saying NO WAY....THREE GUYS, finding that totally hard to believe.   

Caller on right now to Bill on the radio...she's giving him a piece of her mind!  She is stating that he is contributing to rumors & that his post was "tacky."   When confronted he chalked it up to possible rumors going around.  The caller cornered him about stating that he heard this from LE & he was like "well, yea yup" but then passed it off as we'll have to wait and see.   

Credible my rear!

The last caller on Bill Way's show called him out on why he has said this "rumor".  He shuffled around the calling out but still stands by what he has been told.  Yes, another caller on that show said they had heard she was at Vandy hospital.  He did not deny that either.  The only scenario I can think of to keep hush on her whereabouts, if she has been located, is to catch or get something on the perps.  Interesting to me though is why the searches still?  Looking for clues? 

Anyone that has searched, did they tell you to look for clues or Holly herself.

This is all so hinky to me...

Not saying I believe it, just posting it as rumor.

her being found and at vandy hospital doesn't really jive with the cell phone being found, and a tip called into her mother, and pretty much everything else we know about this case so far if she was found already.  i'm praying she has been found but i don't think le would mislead the volunteers like that and people out searching on easter sunday, etc.. if she had already been found

Cad, that post on topic states 4/11 - that was prior to her abduction!  We have to remember that a neighbor (house not real close to Bobo property) also called 911 & heard screams.   I am finding it totally outrageous that LE would choose to keep her recovery & safety secret for more than a 24 hour period much less longer.

I'm still waiting for a response from Will:

@willnunley Bill Way of wnws is spreading that Holly is alive.Reportedly got 2 calls by auth, mentioned sheriff-can u check this TKS
1 hour ago
https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley (https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley)

I agree Capp

I wish it to be true & I'll be elated but I'd imagine I would not be the only one rather ticked off when the rejoicing wore off.    Even to catch perps, I cannot fathom keeping a victim's return a secret for two weeks.  Thousands have literally wrenched their bodies looking for her & many very worried about her well-being...it just doesnt seem conceivable & I have NEVER heard of a case where anything like that case scenario happened over 24 hours, if ever.

Someone asked a question to me about what we were told....I cannot say precisely but we were given detailed instructions what to look for that may have belonged to Holly.   The only items that have been reported on thru the media is a pink shirt & jeans (I know the brand) but there was a list of items.   It should be also noted that I heard NOTHING of this rumor on the ground & I spoke to many while there.

There's no way they could keep that secret anyway.  Her parents and family would be at the hospital.

The cell phone suddenly appearing along side of the road is hopeful news to me....it also means someone either kept the cell phone charged and off or recharged it..a week is a long time for any cell phone to hold a charge....I am thinking the call to Holly's mother came on that cell phone?  I am also thinking that Holly's family's phones are tapped..wouldn't that be usual in a case of a missing person with a reward of $80,000?  I think the only safe way to have made that call was from Holly's own phone. Whoever has Holly is playing with the police now....who has a grudge like that to taunt the cops?..JMHO
 ::MonkeyEek::

And that is the other thing, others would witness their comings and goings...it would have leaked by now.

FOXNEWS national (cable) live just reported that they spoke to Kevin Bromley, family spokesperson & he in essence said while the searches being called off due to weather has the family devastated they are holding out hope.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20057423-504083.html

April 26, 2011 10:48 AM
Stormy weather to hamper Holly Bobo search efforts
Posted by Camille Mann

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Law enforement officers are asking volunteers to return to Decatur County Thursday if Bobo still hasn't been found. Severe storms expected to be in the area Tuesday and Wednesday, reports the Sun.

 ::snipping2::

While police initially believed an abductor dragged Bobo, 20, away as she left for school last Wednesday, investigators now suspect it was a community member in camouflage who led Bobo into the woods near her home.

Authorities have refused to rule out anyone in the community of Parsons, about 100 miles northeast of Memphis, as a potential suspect.

 ::snipping2::

Sheriff: volunteer-led searches for #hollybobo have been called off for today and tomorrow. Weather concerns.
2 hours ago

https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley (https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley)
(Edit to fix link - add url tags.  MB)

IF Bill Way's words reflect any truth ... could the orginal report regarding a home invasion ... regarding a violent abduction ... reflect the truth encompassing the disappearance of Holly Bobo?

This account would go a long way towards explaining ...

1.  The immediate presence of so many law enforcement agencies.
2.  Original reports that blood was found inside the home.
4.  The immediate ruling out of Clint as a person of interest.
5.  The low profile of Karen, Dana and Clint.

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CHANGING STORIES - APRIL 13, 2011 - APRIL 15, 2011

Home Invasion - Dragged Away

Tenn. Woman May Have Been Abducted in Home Invasion
Published April 14, 2011

PARSONS, Tenn. -- A 20-year-old nursing student who was last seen being dragged from her house by a man dressed in camouflage might have been abducted in a home invasion  Wednesday, authorities said.

Holly Bobo's 25-year-old brother told investigators that he saw the man dragging his sister across the carport at her family home in the community of Darden in Decatur County and toward a wooded area, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said. Its violent crime response team was gathering evidence.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/14/tenn-woman-abducted-home-invasion/?test=latestnews


So Many Law Enforcement Agences

Holly Bobo Abduction: Week-in-review
Wed., April 13, Day 1: Recap from Decatur County Sheriff

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There were questions as to why so many law enforcement agencies, including federal agents from the FBI and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI), became involved in Holly’s case on day one. Sheriff Wyatt said they were taking every precaution that they knew to take.

“At this time,” he said, “whatever it might be, then that’s what we’re trying to prepare for.”

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-week-review\

http://www.jacksonsun.com/VideoNetwork/903287890001/JS-Video-Sheriff-Wyatt-Kidnapping


Blood Inside the Home?

Sheriff: No suspects in abduction of Tenn. student
updated 4/15/2011 4:04:45 PM ET

WSMV TV earlier reported that Decatur County Sheriff Roy Wyatt said investigators found the blood in searching the Bobo's home.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42588547/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/


Not Forcefully Dragged

Holly Bobo ‘In Fear of Her Life’
April 16, 2011

Holly Bobo, 20, was confronted Wednesday by a man in hunting camouflage who forced her to go with him into the woods, said John Mehr, spokesman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

“What we believe, and I’ll tell you he actually had an arm holding her and so we feel that she knew that she was in fear of her life so she was complying with his commands,” he told a news conference.

Mehr said investigators “did not see drag marks.” He added she was “not forcefully dragged and she’s like any other victim, maybe complying with her attacker, but she walked into the woods” outside her Pasrons, Tenn. home.

Bobo’s 25-year-old brother Clint watched from inside the home, but did not believe she was being abducted until later. He saw the stranger from behind and believed it was his sister’s boyfriend.

Her brother, said Mehr, “had reasons to believe [the man] was not an attacker,” and did not call 911 until he saw blood outside.

http://www.asapnewsnetwork.com/holly-bobo-in-fear-of-her-life/


Confident of That

Holly Bobo Followed Kidnapper into Tennessee Woods in 'Fear of Her Life'
PARSONS, Tenn. April 15, 2011

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The officer said that neither Bobo's brother nor her boyfriend were suspects. "We are confident of that," he said.

But police have no leads to the identity of Bobo's abductor.

"There is not a person of interest at this time," he said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/holly-bobo-attacker-woods-fear-life/story?id=13381683

IF the outcome reveals that any member of the Bobo family was involved and/or possessed knowledge regarding the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Holly and ... IF in the process of elimination famly members were not requested to submit to a polygraphy ... the implication is that the well-being of searchers was not a primary concern.

Considering the changing stories ... it does not make sense that those closest to Holly ... it does not make sense the only witness to the "alleged" abduction and ... it does not make sense the person originally implicated as the abductor .. in the process of elimination ... prior to conducting these massive searchers ... were not polygraphed.

Maybe family members and the "boyfriend" were immediately polygraphed.  Maybe that is the foundation behind Spokesperson Mehr's words of exoneration in his April 15th press conference.  I hope so.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
DNA Results in Holly Bobo Case
Aired April 20, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

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DEBORAH NORVILLE, GUEST HOST As you know, we have spoken off-camera with other family members, and Natalie (ph) Bobo, who`s a cousin of Holly who`s gone missing, said to us that Clint had indicated that he had taken a polygraph test and passed it. Can you confirm that?

KEVIN BROMLEY, FAMILY SPOKESPERSON: I don`t know that to be sure. Has the investigators said anything about that?

NORVILLE: Well, this is a family member who has told us, and we`re trying to confirm that with you as the family spokesperson.

BROMLEY: Right. I don`t know that to be factual. That would be something you`d have to talk with the investigators about.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1104/20/ng.01.html

hi monks,trying to catch up, from reading the last 15 pgs
not sure what to make of the alleged found phone,if true
sure begs a few Qs
1.if it was a phone that was found,how would anyone know that quickly it was
holly phone
2.why was it near a cement co.the thought of cement and, an abducted/missing
person is a disturbing thought
3.was the perp monitoring the calls coming into the phone, or just checking
all calls in the phone,wonder how close to the phone you can get with a ping
and gps
and the alleged call about, where the phone could be found, tells LE a few
things,if it was a woman, at least 2 people are involved in holly abduction,
it prob wasnt for the Rmoney,maybe someone knows about the abduction and out
of fear,shame,something, he/she thought revealing or putting the phone there
and saying where it could be found, would help lead to the perp,and end this

my WAG is if it was a phone,it was prob found by the landscaper, while doing
the lawn,and was leaked a phone was found and the rumor mill started

on the map  i labeled where the phone was found as new evidence
the acme map,for a little more detail of possible routes
that could have been used,you can toggle,map,topo,sat,ect.
A.city of parsons tn
B.TCCP,100 eaton st, new evidence
C.holly bobo house,blood found
D.area lunch box found
E.Gooch Road, area reported as searched,after lunch box was found
acme map
http://tinyurl.com/3awoqlm
---------
G street view of TCCP
http://tinyurl.com/44t2sof

Spokeswoman Helm indicates that the cell was discovered by searchers ... not through a tip.  Could this afford hope that the SIM card has not been removed and may have the ability to reveal something that could be case related.

Janet

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SSearch for Holly Bobo Focuses on Suspect
Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:33 PM

Decatur County, TN (Parsons, TN) - The search for Holly Bobo may focus more intently on finding a suspect related to the young woman's disappearance, according to TBI spokesperson Kristen Helms.

When asked if she [Helms] believed that investigators were closer to finding Bobo this week than in the previous week, Helms stated that the investigation has "become more narrowed" and that officials are intently focusing more on finding a potential suspect in the 20 year old's disappearance.

The Bureau is still actively seeking information from anyone in the community or region that will bring them closer to finding Holly Bobo, or the person responsible for her disappearance.

<snipped>

Media reports had linked the newest item to a phone tip, but Helms said during a phone conversation that it was her understanding that the new item had been recovered during the search effort.

When asked about the nature of blood evidence recovered initially at Holly Bobo's home, the TBI spokeswoman also declined comment on the nature of forensic findings, and even declined to comment on whether the blood was animal or human.

<snipped>

http://midsouthnewz.com/news/midsouth-regional-news/search-for-holly-bobo-focuses-on-suspect.html


 

Very possible, CW - landscaper, or even someone walking by found the phone, and could be he/she checked phones address book and dialed mom/house phone to tell them they had found it! Something as innocent as that?  I have left my phone at Wal-mart a couple of times, and whome ever found it each time just called a couple of #'s in my phone book  and I got it thru the grapevine where my phone was.

I don't think it is right for Mr Bill to post it.

Klass, remember in the Kyron case a rescue diver posted on his FB Kyron body was found. What is wrong with people!

NOTE, that what I put in bold in the above article are ALL in singular tense.    I am going to repost something from last night:

Search For Whitney Duncan's Missing Cousin Turns Up Evidence
First Posted: 04/25/11 04:17 PM ET Updated: 04/25/11 04:17 PM ET

Authorities in west Tennessee are examining potential evidence in the search for Holly Bobo, the 20-year-old cousin of country music star Whitney Duncan. The young nursing student has been missing since she was abducted from outside her home earlier this month, police said.

"We have taken in hundreds of pieces of possible evidence, so we are sorting through it to see if it is related to Holly or not," Kristin Helm, a spokeswoman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, told The Huffington Post.

On Sunday, investigators announced they had found a "significant" item. Volunteers reportedly told Fox 13's Earle Farrell the significant piece of evidence is a cell phone. Helm declined to comment and would only say that there are "lots of rumors and speculation."

Capp's note:

GCoy1 Greg Coy
Volunteers tell FOX13's Earle Farrell significant piece eevidence in Holly Bobo case is cell phone. Earle waiting to hear from authorities.
13 hours ago
https://twitter.com/#!/GCoy1


Bobo was last seen on April 13 outside her family's house in Darden, a small community about 100 miles northeast of Memphis. A neighbor called 911 when she heard a woman screaming shortly after 7:30 a.m. Bobo's 25-year-old brother, who was inside the house at the time, also called 911.
 
ccording to police, Bobo's brother said he saw her being led away from the home by a man dressed in camouflage, into a nearby wooded area. He said he initially thought it was her boyfriend, but became concerned when he noticed blood on the ground outside the residence.

Local and state law enforcement authorities have coordinated massive search efforts behind Bobo's home and throughout the surrounding area. In the days following her disappearance, investigators found what they described as a vital clue in her abduction.    Capp's note:  behind Bobo's home is exactly where our crew was Saturday
 
According to police, Bobo's boyfriend and family members are cooperating with the investigation. None of them have been named suspects or persons of interest in the case.

Whitney Duncan has been posting regular messages about her cousin's disappearance to various social networking websites and has also joined in several foot searches.

"Out searching for Holly. Keep the prayers going up please," Duncan tweeted on Saturday.

Capp's note:  Im posting what she said

Whitney Duncan
I've done 1 interview & only because I was told it might help get the word out about Holly, and I was such an emotional wreck after it, that I said I would not do any more. So to all the people that have negative things to say about anyone in my family, God will deal with you. Unfortunately you are making this even harder on a family that is suffering. To the people that pray and help, thank you so much.
http://www.facebook.com/whitneyduncan?sk=wall&filter=2

http://twitter.com/#!/ProfilerPatB (http://twitter.com/#!/ProfilerPatB)


ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
Law enforcement in the Holly Bobo case never urged the public to be on the lookout for Holly AND her abductor.
3 minutes ago

ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
Law enforcement in the Holly Bobo case have never searched for a live Holly ...just her body and evidence.

I will also reiterate that I feel that it is highly inappropriate for any volunteer to speak to the media about potential evidence being found, it is not their job to disseminate information & speaking from an ethical point of view, personally I would never divulge such information prior to LE speaking to it first as to not compromise an active criminal investigation.

This is not to say it includes any other information that was discussed yesterday as to who received a phone call, its a separate point.

This makes me FURIOUS!   This is the second time she has inserted herself into this case speaking completely out of line.   First of all, there has never been an announcement by ANY TBI or other LE agency in this case that has stated that they were looking for a body...much to the contrary they have expressed having hope to find her alive.   Secondly, she doesnt have to play with semantics in an active criminal investigation...LE is obviously looking for BOTH.

I dont give a flip how self-proclaimed of an expert or otherwise she states herself to be, she is out of line here.   I know for a fact upon listening to her that she has a bit of angst with some police work in other cases, she needs to clear her mind from that before she opens her mouth.   Rant over but justified.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20057581-504083.html

April 26, 2011 4:10 PM
Police say Holly Bobo investigation narrowing
Posted by Kevin Hayes

(CBS/WREG/AP) PARSONS, Tenn. - Tennessee law enforcement officials say that the search for missing nursing student Holly Bobo is narrowing, as they begin the process of identifying persons of interest in the case.

Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Kristin Helm said many possibilities have been ruled out, and that the focus of the investigation and search is still on the area surrounding the small community of Darden, where Bobo lives with her parents and brother.

 ::snipping2::

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=218199748434644937742.0004a0e4115bf271e54ae&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.679217,-88.175486&spn=0.007617,0.013057&t=h&z=17

New Orleans??

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110426/NEWS03/110426070/TBI-investigation-narrowed-nursing-student-search

TBI investigation narrowed in nursing student search

She's always out of line as far as I'm concerned.

That looks like an error to me

Considering Blink's reliable inside sources ... could it be that Spokeswoman Helm's was attempting to divert attention away from the source of the tip regarding Holly cell.

Janet

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Blink34
Re: Holly Bobo, 20yrs old, Parsons TN, abduction from home 4/13/11 #1
« Reply #910 on: April 25, 2011, 08:36:39 PM »

Holly's cell was found at the Tri City Cement Plant due to a tip received by Karen Bobo via phone, that she in turn gave to LE.

It is missing the SIM card.

B

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9775.msg1331057#msg1331057

Janet,

There are two points to make here:

1)  It is being said that volunteer searchers told Earle Farrell of Fox13 what was found independent of who received a reported phone call
2)  It is being said that Karen Bobo received a phone call independent of what a volunteer/searcher(s) may have told a Fox13 reporter

Not sure why that last entry is there on that mapping, only thing I can think of is someone did a map from their location to the Decatur County, TN area

yep an error,poster put it on the wrong map
you can see in, N.O. at bass st and Hayne Boulevard, is where boys were seen
walking the dog according to the boys map,in street view the hill you see
across from the houses is R&R tracks and lake pontchartrain

the map for the missing boys Aaronne Mitchell & Aaronne Russell ~ 4/24/11
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218199748434644937742.0004a1d5a2cde6c3c2a26

holly bobo map
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218199748434644937742.0004a0e4115bf271e54ae

the posters maps pg
http://maps.google.com/maps/user?uid=218199748434644937742&hl=en&gl=us

I'm was told by a couple of the searchers yesterday that LE told them the authorities would now deal with any further searching.

Being familiar with the area, certainly the items have been randomly tossed there, by someone who lives there. You can't link all the items to a direction. It's a circle, if you're familiar with the back roads. Most of the popular there is employed on the hwy the cell was found, but is the main route to the interstate.

are you saying that LE,will not be asking for search teams,from the volunteers
and welcome to SM

Welcome Southrah

I do have to say that what you stated is in direct contradiction to what I know to be taking place, do you care to expound further?   There was no presser yesterday or today & they are not at the fairgrounds to give briefings daily.   The LE agencies have their command elsewhere for a few days now.

The search is to resume Thursday CW.

Welcome Southrah -

Were you helping in the search for Holly also?

This is apparently a translated version of this story. The original is not written this way. Its at http://www.suite101.com/content/missing-holly-bobo-update-cell-phone-found-roadside-a367810.

Southrah,you think the perp just drove around in a circle and tossed the items,or because the perp may live in the
area,just drove around radomly till..../tossing items

No, my ex-husband. I live in the next large town over. Been afraid to let my teen girls visit since this happened. If you knew how small this town is, it's very scary. It's definitely someone among them, and everyone knows everyone. He said they even think it could be one of the searches who placed the items, because they had already searched the area.

That's what he said their search team was told yesterday afternoon. Of course, I see different being said in news online. But, he also said there were so many rumors and they aren't being told much that they have to get a lot of their information from the news too, except what that know for sure among each other.

Thank you everyone for all the welcomes. Yes, if they really found her cell phone where they say yesterday, because it and the lunch purse are so far apart, and wouldn't be in line with an exit.

I think surely they would continue to use the volunteers, that just what my ex-husband said his search team was told yesterday.

Clarify "they" please.   I too believe that one particular item were placed to throw off the investigation (possibly more) BUT I am in touch with people & was there this weekend so while that is a possibility it was not largely discussed by quite a few people I was in direct contact with & certainly not any LE we were in contact with during the course of our search.

Everyone feels that it is someone within the community but we have to be careful how things are stated because no one needs more rumors or misinformation.   Said respectfully.

Hi Southrah - welcome!

Understandable. I am referring to many locals, to whom I am related and friends I have there. I lived there several years. I have a particular person I believe may have been involved. I gave my info to TBI. I've tried to keep up with the information locally in order to see if the info has been followed up, but so far, nothing. That person, along with most of the town, is in the search teams.

It is your belief that the person who "might" be involved is part of a search team for Holly?

Yes

Are one of you part of the search teams?

If you called it in to TBI & people are aware of who this is then I'm pretty darn sure it would be being dealt with.   I'm sure you have the best of intentions but this is already causing much speculation.   You said you were not there but your husband witnessed this person searching specifically?

Hi South,
    So in the scenario that a local is involved, what are the chances that Holly is being kept alive, being that she'd certainly be able to id.
the person(s ) responsible for her abduction?

Yes, I was this weekend & spoke to a variety of different people including a few that know the family rather well.  I have plans to return this weekend, if needed.

Klaas...sidebar

Wow.  brass balls.

Well that sounds like a polite "Shut up". I'm sure my tip came in the day after her disappearance, along with hundreds of others. I'm not so confident it was dealt with. Decatur County is protective of their locals. It depends highly on who you are, whose son, grandson or brother you are and who you hunt and ride horses with, as to whether or not that lead went anyway.

If you don't want to hear it, I'll politely shut up, per your request. I thought this forum was here for information on Holly. I could be wrong. But, if I'm right... It certainly makes sense to me how the items were found where they were.

just a FYI,to keep up with places of found phone

map to from cement and kolpak
http://tinyurl.com/3spzygf

referenced in this post
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9797.msg1331596#msg1331596

 :smt102

not sure about others,im listening

Oops. Sorry. I typed inside that quote.

sounds more like a psycho,to me,and a dangerous perp

Dang, I did it again.

I agree - I am going back to lurking.

Southrah - I think most members here know to take most information outside of LE cautiously.  There have been rumors as you know.  Now a local radio guy is saying he's heard from a reputable source that Holly is alive.  We all hope that is true but won't believe it until we hear something official.

How long did you live in the Parson's area?  Did you know the family at all? 

5 years. I don't know them at all. Some of my family does, but not well.

I've also hear the rumor that she was alive. It seems to be coming from some of the searchers who say the rescue squad was dispatched during the searches a few days ago and they believed it was because she was found. Then another claims to have actually seen her after the rescue. I don't believe it to be true. They continued to have people searching for days after that.

The release of Clint's 911 call would put to rest the questions that are abounding regarding the changing stories ... changing stories which challenges the integrity of Holly's brother.  It would then be know once and for all IF Clint changed his original account.

If Clint's orginal account of what he witnessed on the morning of April 13th changed from what he reported to 911 ... I believe this could be considered a giant waving red flag.

If Clint's orginal account did not change ... investigation spokespersons must shoulder the blame in regards to the suspicion that has been cast on Holly's brother.

Why is it that in missing person cases which have been discussed on this site ... some original 911 calls are released while others are not?

Janet

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Home Invasion - Dragged Away

Tenn. Woman May Have Been Abducted in Home Invasion
Published April 14, 2011

PARSONS, Tenn. -- A 20-year-old nursing student who was last seen being dragged from her house by a man dressed in camouflage might have been abducted in a home invasion Wednesday, authorities said.

Holly Bobo's 25-year-old brother told investigators that he saw the man dragging his sister across the carport at her family home in the community of Darden in Decatur County and toward a wooded area, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said. Its violent crime response team was gathering evidence.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/14/tenn-woman-abducted-home-invasion/?test=latestnews


Not Forcefully Dragged

Holly Bobo ‘In Fear of Her Life’
April 16, 2011

Holly Bobo, 20, was confronted Wednesday by a man in hunting camouflage who forced her to go with him into the woods, said John Mehr, spokesman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

“What we believe, and I’ll tell you he actually had an arm holding her and so we feel that she knew that she was in fear of her life so she was complying with his commands,” he told a news conference.

Mehr said investigators “did not see drag marks.” He added she was “not forcefully dragged and she’s like any other victim, maybe complying with her attacker, but she walked into the woods” outside her Pasrons, Tenn. home.

Bobo’s 25-year-old brother Clint watched from inside the home, but did not believe she was being abducted until later. He saw the stranger from behind and believed it was his sister’s boyfriend.

Her brother, said Mehr, “had reasons to believe [the man] was not an attacker,” and did not call 911 until he saw blood outside.

http://www.asapnewsnetwork.com/holly-bobo-in-fear-of-her-life/

Thanks Southrah.  I don't believe it either, there's no way they would have volunteers out there searching if she had been found.

Welcome, Southrah. 

Having come from a very small rural town myself, I totally understand what you are saying. It would not surprise me at all to learn that someone involved with the abduction is also helping search.

Southrah - one thing I would be careful of is posting any information that maybe your ex-husband shouldn't have revealed.  The searchers have been asked not to reveal the information they know so we should respect that.

Welcome to SM and thanks for the feedback! Are you from Jax or Lexington by chance? I lived in Jax for many yrs and then Collierville until 3 yrs ago....we were in Parsons every weekend at the TN river, and sometimes @ Beech Lake. The amount of brush and areas of water including all the coves at the river (and close access to I-40) worried me from day one, I guess the river worse than anything as I know how dense that area, and zillions of coves can be :(

I too often thought he could be among the searchers, wouldn't be the first time that someone deeply inserted themselves in a case to appear "helpful"......another big worry of mine ::HelloKitty::

Southrah, since you are not living in the area now,is the person you suspect,the first person
you thought of,when you heard about holly
from experience,the person i thought could have, didnt, and the person, i thought couldnt have, did

Well, yes, I did think of him first. I hope I'm wrong, really.

islandmonkey - You're right. I thought of the river and the caves the most.

Southrah welcome

updated list of search areas..

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=218199748434644937742.0004a0e4115bf271e54ae&hl=en&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=35.676124,-88.170691&spn=0.013247,0.032787&z=16&iwloc=0004a0e4116221f893719

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: I worry if that is the case, she may never be found.......way too much territory and hidden niches, don't even get me started on the caves. I know when we stayed at the cabin by ourselves since it was a huge house, 3 floors and 7 bedrooms we were scared to death since if you screamed nobody would hear you so we took a gun and locked even the bedroom door, when we had the house packed we were a bit less uptight (of course we were also usually drinking more too so that may have had something to do with it). I remember one of the coves with a waterfall and when we'd climb up to jump off, I was astonished at how deep and thick the woods were so I never wandered for fear of getting lost.

Ok heading out to another BB game, be back around 10 hopefully.......also, pls everyone be very careful tonight and tomorrow-the weather in TN and 1/3 of the country looks horrific and reminds me of Feb 2008 when we had the tornado emergency and an unbelievable outbreak of tornados, some on the ground for 100 miles ......so hug your kids, keep your weather radio on, be careful and pray for Holly~ she is still out there and tomorrow will mark another sad day with no volunteers to search for her (with good reason), but I can't imagine the pain her family is going thru knowing this.

What about him made you suspect him first?  Is he kinda odd?  Is he really popular?  What stands out to you about this person.

We've even had thunderstorm warnings and tornado watches here in PA, which isn't all that common.

Enjoy the BB game, Islandmonkey.  Thanks for your insights about the area. 

I concur with Klaas.  Also,  I didnt hear a word of that while searching, no speculation of that whatsoever.  The rumor itself stemmed from someone stating she was airlifted on 4/11, which is PRIOR to her abduction....I dont give the rumor itself any merit whatsoever due to the fact that it is inconceivable that the TBI and many other LE agencies involved in this case would keep her whereabouts a secret for two weeks.

Its a dang shame this family, especially Clint have got to endure this ongoing speculation but releasing a 911 call or a poly is not the only thing that would end it totally for some, that seems to be rather obvious.     There has to be a reason why neither has been released officially, as its been discussed before.  Every case is different to some degree.   One of those reasons should be extremely obvious.   I do not agree that the TBI or LE should shoulder any blame whatsoever in why Clint has to endure what some of the public is bound and determined to cast upon him.   The TBI and all LE agencies working this criminal investigation are being diligent & prudent.  The reason its not being discussed is apprehending the responsible party & finding Holly takes precedent over dealing with speculation, rumors & the public's anxiousness in wanting to know everything, not to mention there are always strategic decisions to be made in each case so yes what is shared may differ minimally or greatly without it being considered unusual or justifies criticism. 

Capp ... I disagree.

If Clint did not change his original 911 account regarding what he had witnessed minutes previous ...  then investigators have some explaining to do.  IMO

Janet

++++

..
Well, it would make sense that if almost everyone is searching that the perp could be one of them. It would not surprise me if this is true.
I think LE is trying not to tip their hand. They are looking for an alive Holly.
And welcome.

i agree capp...clint is not a suspect or poi and is not involved. this family is going through enough and all this speculation on clint is upsetting. i can't imagine how i would feel if people were accusing me of possibly harming one of my siblings

Your or anyone hasnt been told for certain if Clint changed his story or the dang media took it and ran with it.   It also could be strategic.   These investigators have no explaining to do, they are doing an impeccable job on this case.   I would agree in a few cases we all have followed, this & Caylee Marie's is not one of them amongst others.

Of course its possible, but witnessing what I have I dont see how that would continue even if initially attempted considering it would be visible to many that would recognize an individual in that community.   Everyone that goes out on a search signs in to the fairgrounds & they must sign back out when they return...if anyone is out there unauthorized it will get snagged.

Janet, where you and I live ( Canada ) we would never hear a 911 call or a single peep from the RCMP or the local LE during an active on going investigation. There have been so many cases where we hear nothing from LE and then, suddenly there is an arrest and charges.
LE is saying as little as possible I think because they don't want their words or actions to cause Holly to be harmed any further.
I've been reading, not posting much, but the safety of Holly and the intergrity of the investigtion trumps my rights to know anything. What if something leaked out or was blurted out and Holly was harmed as a direct result of that?
I peek in here and other places and like everyone else, I want Holly found alive and I want whoever is responsib;e to be dealt with.     

IF most of the community is out searching ans supporting the family, and they beleive that this person is from within the community,then this azzhat would stick out like a sore thumb if he stayed at home. Perp like this is going to try to blend in with the community. 

I tend to agree with this very much. 

Excellent point Kat_Gram!

And then there's that....catch 22 if one were this @$$hat

OK monkeys I better get off of here, we have a few waves of bad storms coming thru including tornado watch/warnings, certain areas also expecting significant flooding.

Stay safe & sweet dreams

nite Cappy...

Holly Bobo is my focus.  This implies that I am on a quest for answers clarifying what appears ... according to investigation spokespersons ... to be changing stories coming from the ONE witness who claims to have observed Holly's alleged abduction.

If this is a non-issue to some ... so be it.  I wish I could move on but ... I cannot.

However ... on a forum ... agreeing to disagree is where it is at until the outcome is revealed.

Janet

SOP for LE is to attend all memorials, gatherings, or funerals of missing/murdered persons as the likelihood is high that the person responsible will be in the crowd.  Sad, but true.

Search for Holly Bobo Focuses on Suspect
Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:33 PM

Decatur County, TN (Parsons, TN) - The search for Holly Bobo may focus more intently on finding a suspect related to the young woman's disappearance, according to TBI spokesperson Kristen Helms.

When asked if she [Helms] believed that investigators were closer to finding Bobo this week than in the previous week, Helms stated that the investigation has "become more narrowed" and that officials are intently focusing more on finding a potential suspect in the 20 year old's disappearance.

<snipped>

http://midsouthnewz.com/news/midsouth-regional-news/search-for-holly-bobo-focuses-on-suspect.html


 ::justice2NJ::

If the focus has shifted to finding a suspect, that speaks volumes, imo.

i agree

http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/b56f0daf9acd4bf2835074f98576dba4/TN--Tenn-Woman-Abducted/
TBI: Investigation narrowed in nursing student search, no one yet being identified as suspect

Janet,

It doesn't seem anyone knows who changed the story or why. News isn't owning up to it.
No one is.. the Bobo spokesperson claims to know nothing.
Do you remember what day LE supposedly stood guard at the Bobos?

One thing I wonder too is does LE let just anyone search? Do they do a background check?

JMO - They know who - just haven't been able to make an arrest.  that idea has also appeared on sites.

I bet they are collecting data and evidence now.

Oh - sorry - back to lurking. 

I had a thought- its a long stretch ... But, what IF Holly escaped and the kidnapper thinks she may be still in the woods.. so if LE wanted them to think that they could hold off on letting it out she was found ..or escaped to keep them in the woods to catch them, matbe.

Why hasn't the parents been on tv pleading for her return? Id be on tv everyday!!!

An analogy ... Tamikosmom's thinking process ...

If investigators revealed that the person who claimed to have witnessed the abduction of my precious granddaughter had substantially changed his account which had been related to a 911 operator following the incident ... justice for my granddaughter would dictate that this guy would not be receiving an automatic pass from Mama.  Clarifying answers would have to be forthcoming.

Janet

A question_  does Holly's brother live at the family home or was he visiting that morning?

StarMonkey

There was only one alleged witness to the abduction of Holly Bobo.  There should be only one truth ... the truth related to the 911 operator by Clint Bobo immediately following the incident.

Investigators did not witness the abduction of Holly Bobo.  There is no way that they or anybody else would have the ability to change Clint's story.

Janet

 

Cad, you stay off that branch up there & continue to join us, personally I appreciate & enjoy your contributions.

That's a good question Mizjay!  I'm not sure if I have heard.

Got5 up due to thunder a bit ago.

He lives with his family.

My cousin Clint is NOT a suspect. People are basing that off of a false report and I'm sick of it. The family is hurting enough as is & this only adds to the pain. He loves his sister more than anything. So people that says the story is weird or strange is reading the WRONG story.  April 17 at 11:05pm....Whitney Duncan
http://www.facebook.com/whitneyduncan/posts/10150275341311521

God give this family strength

Starmonkey,

To your question regarding searchers, An individual must register at the fairgrounds, give them certain ID & then they stamp your hand.  You are then instructed that you must sign back out at the fairgrounds or there will be a search team out looking for anyone that doesn't.

Janet - totally agree...there should only be "one" truth.

"Who" changed the truth?  Clint or someone else?

Also, I'm getting a hinky feeling about the lunch purse being found off the road and the telephone being found in the open  - both items seemed to have been just "tossed".  Then  phone call to Holly's mom and not LE about Holly's phone.  All very odd.

The more rational thing to do would NOT be to toss evidence out in the open, but to keep it all with Holly or get rid of the items in such a manner that they're not out in the open..obviously...wanting someone to find the items.

There's more to this, IMO....

Knowing my (grr...) inability to post a link correctly, I feel certain that Klaas or Muffy will have to fix the link I'm about to give.  (TIA, Klaas or Muffy).

It's been extremely stormy in west TN through the night with no improvement expected until tomorrow (and even then flash flooding is expected from all the rain).

I haven't been able to find any news today but I did stumble upon some human interest type stories.  It's the type of memories of better times that folks share with each other. Some of you may gain enjoy getting a more close and personable picture.

I'm referring to the discussion page of this particular facebook set up for Holly.  I'd never even noticed it existed until this morning.

https://www.facebook.com/BHBHS?ref=ts

Capp~  thank you for the reply about Holly's brother.
I hope there's an update or news today but the weather...terrible.  All you monks back that way please be careful.

http://www.decaturcountyonline.com/article.asp?art=1715

 ::snipping2::

Weather Interrupts Search for Holly
4/27/11
The search for missing nursing student Holly Bobo intensified over the weekend but was soon halted as severe weather entered the area Monday.
Authorities say an item believed to belong to Bobo was located Sunday, though investigators will not reveal what the item is or how it is linked to the case. The discovery renewed search efforts late Sunday, when earlier in the day volunteers announced it would likely be the last day of organized searching.

http://www.decaturcountyonline.com/article.asp?art=1715

whoops just realized i cut it off

Search efforts continued into Monday but were called off in the afternoon as severe weather approached. Thunderstorms, high winds and possible tornadoes will continue to hamper the search until at least Thursday.

Well, it was a rough night into the AM here.  We've had 4 tornado warnings, flash floods & severe boom-booms within a day & about 4AM it got downright scary, we lost power & satellite for a few hours.   I'm not in the clear yet, in a watch box as we speak & a possibility of another warning going up in the next hour or so.   The only damage I can see on my property is a piece of roof gutter broke off, several tree limbs down & garbage can type stuff flown about.   I know Decatur County got a good bit of this storm front as well.

Puzzler, "the more to this" could be as simple as its being done by someone that doesnt follow crime cases like we all do & one that is not thinking rationally, possibly young OR it could be a planned diversion, albeit that it doesnt make sense to many of us.   Obviously, I'm aware of a few details as I've mentioned but that's not to say that I have all the answers but I will say this I have no reason to suspect that Holly's brother is involved whatsoever.    This is a decent, loving family with no history of dysfunction...no one is uttering an unkind word about any of them within that entire community, no gossip of such at all.   The outpouring of the community serves as a large indicator of that & that is what I experienced while there FWIW.

Capp...what are your thoughts on someone calling Holly's mom about the phone, instead of calling LE? 

Since we know where that info came from I will go with that it indeed took place.   That being said, I think it may be someone connected to and/or has knowledge of the person responsible that is providing information in the hopes that this person gets apprehended without incident.    Please do not take this as fact since I've stated that I know a few things but I'm leaning in that direction based on what has been released & the little bit I've ascertained from being on the ground speaking to quite a few people.  Of course, that can shift if facts come to light otherwise but that is my opinion at the moment.

You're not getting it. He is registered. He's a member of the community. He knows the father. He rides horses and hunts among them. He's well known, as is everyone in a small town. There is nothing odd that would stand out about him being there. (And, it wouldn't be odd to any of them for the perp, who is a member of the community) to be among them.

Please do not take that tone with me & certainly do not presume what I do or do not know.  If that is the case as you put it, he's KNOWN which means they are watching.   

You are getting very close to causing way too much speculation about a particular individual that may or may not have anything to do with this nor has been officially named as a person of interest.   The person who is responsible for this is still at large, please take the TBI and other LE agencies lead on this and be cautious in what you say.   If you are right in your assumption kudos to you but please be aware that finding Holly & apprehending the responsible person is a far cry more important than any one of us being right.

Because LE is holding everything so close, I suspect they know a lot more than they're letting on, and I trust that with the TBI also being involved, that even though it's a closeknit, small town, they won't protect anyone and will find whoever did this and bring them to justice. Even *if* that someone is among the searchers, they can't just arrest someone because they think it's them. They need more than just a hunch. They need enough proof to hold them, lest they risk ruining their case. While I realize it's possible for LE to botch things, I wouldn't just automatically assume they have.

ITA & good to see you.   

It was a huge miscommunication!!  IMO

Janet

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Holly Bobo Abduction: 2-week-wrap-up; rumors dispelled; next steps
April 27th, 2011 12:32 pm ET

<snipped>

“Dragged” or “led” into the woods

There has been some confusion regarding how the case was initially reported.

Initially law enforcement stated Holly was last seen being “dragged” into the woods by a man dressed in camouflage clothing.

They later changed the wording to Holly was “led” into the woods.

This spurred online attacks against Holly’s brother, Clint Bobo, who was the last person to see her as she was being led into the woods.

Some questioned whether Clint changed his story, if media misreported, or if there was a miscommunication from law enforcement.

Asked where the confusion came, Helm said, “I don't have Clint's statements in front of me to be able to tell you exactly what he said.

“I can tell you that there was some miscommunication,” Helm said.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-2-week-wrap-up-rumors-dispelled-next-steps

Holly Bobo Abduction: 2-week-wrap-up; rumors dispelled; next steps
April 27th, 2011 12:32 pm ET

<snipped>

Rumors Holly was found

There have been online rumors that Holly has been found.

Helm said, “To my knowledge, Holly has not been found. We don’t have information indicating she is either alive or dead.”

Helm said Tuesday afternoon, “We have no new developments to report on today.

“TBI is still following leads on her [Holly’s] case.

“Volunteer search will continue if and when needed.

“A news release will be issued by TBI when we have new information to release," Helm said.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-2-week-wrap-up-rumors-dispelled-next-steps

snipped..

April 27, 2011 11:56 AM
Police search for Holly Bobo continues in spite of weather

"We don't want to put [volunteers] at risk," said Tennessee Highway Patrol Lt. Brad Wilbanks to the Jackson Sun, "Law enforcement will still be around to respond to anything we find as it comes up."

The paper reports that police were the only ones searching for Bobo yesterday and will continue to be the only ones searching today, because of a forecast of severe storms.

Authorities ask that volunteers return to Decatur County Thursday if Bobo still hasn't been found.

According to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, searchers found an additional piece of evidence Friday that may pertain to Bobo, but they are not releasing what it is, reports Reuters.

The new clue was found along the road in the northern part of Decatur County, Tenn.

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Gotta run for a bit, sirens going off & we're in another tornado warning AGAIN!   Cyas when I can get back on   Be safe everyone!

Thank you :) Since I started homeschooling, I have a lot less time than I used to, but I do lurk sometimes. :)

I'm not seeing Southrah as giving any more information than can be gleaned from news articles. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20056237-504083.html#ixzz1Kjyj1QPY

 ::snipping2::

Police believe that whoever abducted Bobo is a hunter or someone familiar with the area near her home, which is surrounded by rugged woodlands.

Authorities have refused to rule out anyone in the community of Parsons, about 100 miles northeast of Memphis, as a potential suspect.
 ::snipping2::

I agree

Capps - I haven't seen anything wrong with Southrah's posts.  She is very familiar with the area and people.  I know you feel more vested in this case as you  have assisted in the search but remember, you aren't the only one "local" and people can have differing opinions. 

I spent a long time reading the first thread to try and get familiar with what is known about this case.....but....I gotta say, there has been so much confusing information and all the personal FB stuff that ( :smt017) I don't know what to think.
She's a beautiful girl with so much going for her, I pray there's a good outcome.

I disagree, she said "He knows the father. He rides horses and hunts among them. He's well known," and I'm saying that is more pointed towards a specific individual & NOT anything that has been said publicly.   If someone is turning in a phone, there is also a possibility that they are reading as well.

My being vested in this case has nothing to do with this point whatsoever, but my sound judgement is.

PS   My local CBS channel WREG at 5PM had a report and they spoke to the "significant finding" (reported cell) & went further to state that certain friends of Holly'S and Clint's fingerprints have been taken (some of which as I know it are the same).

I would venture a guess that most of the men in that area know each other, hunt together and ride together.  This community is very small.  I really don't think SouthRah is saying anything that's "bombshell" material.  Especially to those of us who've grown up in a similar community.  She's not saying what color hair this person has, or where he lives or what he drives.  She's really giving no identifiers at all, imo.  Most of the male population in that area would likely fit her description.

You missed the point, its stating that "he knows her father" that is the issue

OT:   Krista Dittmeyer's body has been found in a pond near the spot where she was snatched from her car

So sad.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Link to Krista Dittmeyer's thread:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9800.40

You can save your breath correcting me with my tone. lol TBI asked that locals look among themselves for a reason. If everyone were to shut up, as you seem to prefer, and not address the possibilities, how in the world would they discover who took her?

Knowing her father doesn't tell me anything.  Her father works for a tree service company and likely knows most everyone in the area.

You're right. Everyone at least knows of everyone. We're talking about a couple thousand in population.

Were dogs used in the search?  I think I read somewhere that they followed her scent thru the woods and stopped at a roadway.  (Getting in a vehicle--idk.)  What about dogs searching where the items were discovered?  I gather from what has been suggestedc here that the itmes were thrown out, maybe from a car, or purposely placed.  But what if she was around where the items were located, wouldn't a canine pick up on her scent?

aren't k-9 dogs amazing??

I've been reading this thread, but haven't participated. I do appreciate ALL those that contribute....

Welcome Southrah! ::MonkeyWink::

With all due respect, I am not missing the point.  I would venture a guess everyone in that town "knows her father". 

Unless they're double headed and carrying an ax, the searcher is not going to stand out of the crowd. You surely can't assume "they are watching" any particular person, especially if they're close minded to anyone not fitting the description of whatever the obvious abductor would look like. lol

Now, if you cross the river on to the east, you may find some fitting that description, but probably not among the search team.

Thank you, Samarie

Southrah,

First, Welcome to the cage.  I appreciate a local's point of view.  We have moderators here and they'll let you know if you get out of line.  (Capp's not one).

I am surprised she's arguing with the boss, but I'm gonna stop right there.

 ::MonkeyJnBox::

OBull....LMAO

I love it when you wiggle your butt and throw your weight around.

I like big b utts, I cannot lie........... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yes, they are asking for locals to look among themselves.   It seems you and are got off on the wrong foot but all I am is expressing is that you seem to have a specific person in mind & all Im saying is that should be discussed with the TBI and to proceed with caution as the wrong eyes may very well be reading....we all want this SOB caught.

No, I didnt take kindly to your "you're not getting it" comment but Im very tired from lack of sleep due to days of tornadic storms, the search this weekend & working on things regarding several cases (work) not just Holly's so I'm offering a truce in kindness.

Good night monkeys, I need some down time.

I made no argument to "the boss" whatsoever. 

Thanks O4Bull.

I believe the locations of the evidence further indicates a local, because the items weren't just tossed out on the way toward an exit from the county, in a straight hit, or even toward the river. The lunch purse was found in the most rural of areas, not on the way to anywhere. The cell was found on the Hwy that employs the majority of residents.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-2-week-wrap-up-rumors-dispelled-next-steps
Holly Bobo Abduction: 2-week-wrap-up; rumors dispelled; next steps
April 27, 2011

Holly is such a beautiful young girl, her life ahead of her.  This is so sad as the longer this goes the less likely there will be a good outcome.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Prayers still going up in hopes of Holly's safe return.

I am geographically challenged in my own town, I'll just start there.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Now, what does this tell you?  If I understand you, these items may have been strategically placed?  Someone wanted them found? Or did I misunderstand?  Do you know anything about her brother?  Has he ever been in trouble?  What about the rumors that she's been found, or that she's alive?  That radio guy, Bill Way (I think) sure stuck his neck out IMO.

Only answer if you're comfortable.

This board ain't big enough for the both of us, Capp.  Between my butt and your ego.  I just thought you were too harsh on our new monkey.  We're all friends here.  Stay safe, I'm in tornado alley too.  DH got stuck out of town because he needed to fly through DFW and couldn't.

Prayers for Holly and her family.  I'm sure hoping she's alive, but I fear that's not the case.

No, I didn't necessarily think they were "placed" really. The lunch purse, I think just tossed out on a back road, not expecting it to be noticed. I wouldn't think they imagined it would get this kind of publicity. And, I think the same about the cell phone - just tossed and didn't think it would be noticed, and definitely not expecting such a search effort. Or, maybe because it's the main road, by the factory and other businesses, impossible to know how it got there. Not really a genius at work here.

I don't know the family myself. I've asked and been told the brother seems to be an honest guy, but not really a tough guy. (Don't mean any harm in saying that) It's just most of the men there are country and tough, or try hard to be.

::MonkeyAngel::  I'm kinda a "big deal" around here.  LMAO
I can't stand it when we attack each other.  I love my monkeys.

Like the rest of y'all I'm getting very sad and anxious the longer this goes on.  The odds are definitely not in Holly's favor.  Praying every night God is merciful and she is still amongst the living (but not being tortured).

You all know that Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors so that everyone can pick their favorite flavor.  I think they serve everyone too!  Just sayin...

As far as Bill Way, I don't think most of us really take him seriously. I don't anyway. If you listen to his show much, you'll see what I mean. lol I'm not surprised that he said that, but he is the kind that would discuss rumors and just some things most would disconnect a caller concerning. lol

I've heard the rumor. Believe it or not, a lot of the locals believe she was found days ago, but not sure enough to stop searching. I don't believe that at all. If she were airlifted, everyone in town would know it.

There is one hospital, which could nearly only perform a few stitches or cast a small broken bone. When they call for life flight, half the town comes to watch. Word travels fast. It takes a while. The helicopter comes and lands at the hospital, just down from the only red light in town. There would be no way to hide that.

I don't really suspect him, just thought it's odd that we've never seen a picture of him and his story changed for whatever reason (maybe not his fault).  I have one more question about the cell phone.  Who do you think gave the tip?  Any thoughts on that? 

Also, the nurse, the few on the rescue squad and volunteer fire department, as well as the few police officers, court clerk, etc. are Bill, Ted and Fred's uncle, mom, brother and cousin.

Southrah,

I guess I didn't realize just how small this town is.  Wow!  That does change some things in my mind.  I can't imagine that whomever did this has manged to keep it a total secret in that case.  Thanks for sharing your opinion. ::rhino::

Assuming it's true that there was a tip about the phone, I'd guess the abductor. I maybe reaching, and I don't understand exactly how a crazy mind works, but maybe they're feeling like they're so out of the radar, they're enjoying the attention the town is getting and something out of the ordinary going on.

Yep. And, her house is not on the way anywhere. Someone had to know her and where she lived (and TBI seems aware of that). It's really in the middle of nowhere. If it's not family, and doesn't seem to be, no way it's random.

From what I've been told, at least a year ago, she had a very protective dog - a collie. I know that doesn't sound scary, but I was told the dog would eat you alive if it didn't know you. I don't know if they family still has it, but...

Another thing worth considering, trucking is big business there. A lot of people are truckers.

This town is also not quick to turn on their own. So, my only trust in investigating is with TBI. The authorities there don't even have the knowledge or experience to deal with something like this, and depending on who's kin to who, they may not bother. So, it's great that TBI is involved.

I used to work in the system there, and have seen the primary investigator in action. It's sad.

Wow, that kinda makes your blood run cold.  The possibilities are endless.  It would be interesting to know if she still has that collie.  They can be very protective of their owner.

southrah, I've heard that there is a property owner who is not allowing searchers to search his property.  Have you heard this?

Interesting.  My thoughts have gone there.

Thanks southrah.

Janet

No, I haven't heard that, but I would love to know if it's who I suspect.

Quite honestly, I truly believe the LE knows who did this and could be this person has lawyered up.  I think the family has had an inclination since the day Holly was taken.  Perhaps Holly had mentioned a particular individual in a negative way to her mom and dad.

I also think that LE is putting together the evidence but desperately trying to find Holly in order for justice to be served.

I've never seen a case where the entire town has remained tight lipped from day 1.  It's amazing yet it does show that there is enormous respect for many members of the town, including LE.

The parents have never been in the media pleading for the return of their daughter and that to me indicates they know who is responsible and that the perp is still in town and the reason they think Holly is not out of the locale.

Curious - I agree with all you have said here. 

There is just something not right about all this.  I can't put my finger on it.  Maybe this was a ransom/kidnapping gone bad? 

I don't know who said it but I, too, am very concerned about that river and wildlife refuge and all the woods and forest around.   

I am in Kentucky and believe me small town folk know everything about everyone.  No secrets but they will come together to protect their own.

The Holly Bobo Case - Was Holly Abducted?

1.  Were each of Clint Bobo's statements consistent?
 
2.  Were all of Clint Bobo's statements consistent with his 911 report?
 
3.  Did Clint Bobo submit to and pass a polygraph?

Considering there should be a solid foundation why the only person who claimed to witnessing an "alleged" abduction was given an official pass as a person of interest by a spokesperson for the investigation ... an official pass within TWO DAYS of Holly's disappearance ... I assume the answer is "Yes" to all three questions.
 
Considering there should be a solid foundation why massive searches are justified ... massive searches involving and putting at risk hundreds of volunteers ... I assume the answer is "Yes" to all three questions.

However ... if the above questions could not be answered in the affirmative ... it would make sense that investigators consider the possibility that an abduction never happened.
 
NOBODY should receive an automatic pass from investigators.  Justice for Holly Bobo demands accountability.

IMO

+++++
 
The Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23

Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”

You're exactly right. And, they know better than TBI where to search there for a captive or a body. I know nobody wants to think that way, but the river makes for difficult place to find a body. But, like I said, the locals know where the caves are, and the other places someone would hide a person or body. They know which houses and cabins are vacant, etc.

With the flooding and the river rising, something may come up in next day or two. It's possible.

I thought of that too. Sad as it is, this family needs answers....Prayers for Holly and her family.

Holly's Candles

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HOLLY

Thank You for your input.. So many rumors going around then you have to put it all in prospective.  I have been reading up on a not so happy ex-employee, JD Boy ..the B---- Boys and then you have the sex offenders. These cases are so frustrating..

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20057821-504083.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20057821-504083.html)

April 27, 2011 11:56 AM
Police search for Holly Bobo continues in spite of weather

(CBS/WREG/AP) PARSONS, Tenn. - Though police in Tennessee asked volunteers to hold off in their search for Holly Bobo due to severe storm conditions, investigators reportedly spent Tuesday following leads in the search for the missing 20-year-old nursing student in spite of the weather.

"We don't want to put [volunteers] at risk," said Tennessee Highway Patrol Lt. Brad Wilbanks to the Jackson Sun, "Law enforcement will still be around to respond to anything we find as it comes up."

The paper reports that police were the only ones searching for Bobo yesterday and will continue to be the only ones searching today, because of a forecast of severe storms.

Authorities ask that volunteers return to Decatur County Thursday if Bobo still hasn't been found.

 ::snipping2::

Question :
Did they ever say which of the two 911 calls was placed first ? The neighbour or the brother ?
............
Another thought, the perp must gave been right in the yard as he got her between leaving the house and her approaching her car. She didn't even have time to get in ther car. He had no fear of anyone or any dogs if they had dogs.

Edit to fix quote bracket.  MB
I think the perp must have been in the vicinity of the house, maybe a long a treeline, where he could see the comings and goings that morning and waited for Holly. Creepy as that is, I bet he watched her mother and father leave the home, maybe even watched as they let a dog out that morning. He must have crept closer and closer in order to be able to grab Holly the way he did. Can't imagine there's that much distance between the house door and the carport. Is it possible, if there are dogs, that this perp is so well known to the family and the dogs, that they wouldn't be alarmed and bark at his presence?

Sorry Kat_Gram, I got in your quote box (big sigh) ::MonkeyEek::

Thank you Southrah for putting a 'real' spin on things.  I too have always lived in small towns and still do and LE that hasn't seen many major crimes often come up looking like Mayberry.  Believe me when I say (sorry folks but true)if you came here and got arrested for something you would have to figure a way out, I on the other hand knowing a few people would only need to make a call if I even got brought in in the first place.  It's the good ol boy system round here.  It's sad unless you are on the favored side.  I really hope that local LE partnered  TBI  will get the job done.  I'm gonna believe that since we haven't been told much that they know quite a bit.  Part of me does want to say that it could be the son of a well known family in the area and they are just proceeding with caution.  It's all a bit weird to me.  Something is off from jump street.  Let's just hope TBI will keep the good ol boy system in check, arrest the perv soon and bring Holly home!

Wait, I just realized I read a few posts ago something about dogs tracking her to an area where a car could have been waiting?  Someone fill me in cause I haven't heard a thing about her past beind led/drug to the woods.

Every time I follow a case like this that just keeps dragging on, I can't help but think that LE needs to be allowed to use truth serum on POI to find the missing victim. 

I would love to know if LE has reports on the finger/palm prints on the items found so far.

Any thoughts on an unknown hunter watching the house/Holly looking for an opportunity?  I understand it is turkey hunting season there.  Idk if they use tree stands or hunt from the ground but I know after sitting quiet for so long they tend to notice stuff.  Just a thought.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20110428/NEWS25/104280313

Officials stop using citizens in search for Holly Bobo: Flooded roads cited as reason

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979270713

Holly Bobo Mystery Continues and TBI is Holding Back Evidence

Southrah, welcome...it's nice hearing the point of view from a local. 
 ::MonkeyCheer4::

Being from a small town myself, I know how deep loyalty can run.  I hope the TBI, is able to crack this case and not let a "good ole boy" be protected. 

A few thoughts on the issues that are not being clarified by the family...

1.) I would imagine that the Bobo family feels confident that they don't need to defend themselves or their son, otherwise they probably would be in the media trying to clear CB.

2.) Do you suppose LE feels she is still alive and this is how the rumor has spun out of control and leaked out?  Keeping the family and evidence quiet might be a way to protect her if she is still alive.
 
3.) The family not begging for her safe return, may be because LE has advised them not to (only logical explanation).  I know in other "kidnapping cases", sometimes the perp actually gets joy out of seeing the family beg.  It's a sick thought, but a theory I have read about.  They enjoy the family's suffering.


Just a few of my humble thoughts...... ::MonkeyEek::

Since we don't really know what really happened, why the 911 call is not released.. everything re Clint Bobo is hush. I had some thoughts...

MAYBE...
It was a Home Invasion. Maybe more than one kidnapper was present. Maybe they tried to take Clint to and he got away making his 911 call later when he felt safe to call?

The only thing investigators are releasing re the call is it looked like Hollys BF. Maybe it was her BF or his face was covered so Clint Thinks it may be him but not sure..

Blood by the carport.. screams at 7:30, to me Clint had to know what was going on ..I think he is innocent. Why do gaurds stand 24 hrs outside the Bobos? Unless they feel there was a known witness to the kidnapper they Know has other motives other than just taking Holly?

Just opinions, I don't know what the truth is so just speculating on what could have took place.

Is there any timeline for the morning of her abduction?  What time did each parent leave the home, what time did Holly attempt to leave the home, what time was Clint's first call that something was wrong?

willnunley Will Nunley
THP: no volunteer-led searches tomorrow for #hollybobo as authorities wait for flood waters to calm
14 hours ago
https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley (https://twitter.com/#!/willnunley)

OT: but region related
 ::MonkeyAngel::  Prayers to so many in the southland that have experienced devastating loss of life & property in what has been the worst series of storms the region endured in decades.   My God a few towns have literally been leveled.

Our community had 4 tornado warnings within a day but this morning I'm enjoying coffee being enormously grateful that all we have to deal with is a bit of yard clean up & replace a piece of roof gutter.  Today I'm going to gather clothes & other necessity items that can be spared to donate to those that have lost everything ::MonkeyAngel::

StarMonkey

When I read on this forum that Bill Way claimed that his sources suggested that there may be some truth to the rumor that three men were involved in the abduction of Holly Bobo ... it also crossed my mind that that the original report regarding a home invasion was credible but was buried for a reason.

Janet

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It should be noted that this radio guy, Bill Way posted this on his Facebook page & has not commented since the day he posted.   On air, all he has done is speak around what he originally came out with & then stated he hopes its true but there are many rumors going around.   Personally, I agree with the last person that posted in this thread.   If there was any validity to this whatsoever surely it would have broke as major news by now since this case has gotten major national exposure & attention in Tenn all the way to the Governor's office.

Bill Way
Holly Bobo IS alive. wish i cud tell you more. but can't. Unconfirmed. But extremely possible it appears.
Monday at 9:16pm
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Joyce Wilson Harsson I hope so!
Monday at 9:17pm
Bill Way the info is very probable. but in this business you never know until the authorities speak.
Monday at 9:19pm
Bill Way kepp praying.
Monday at 9:19pm ·  2 people
Bill Way keep
Monday at 9:19pm
Joyce Wilson Harsson hope you have a good source!
Monday at 9:23pm
Terry Lynn Blackburn That's good news I hope she is ok
Monday at 9:38pm
Gay Arnold Gregson Omg. I hope and pray you have a good source!
Monday at 9:58pm
Donna Carter Hodge For you to post this there MUST BE some degree of validity to it. Oh how wonderful!!
Monday at 11:04pm
Gay Arnold Gregson Please, please, please make it be true!
Monday at 11:06pm
Charlene Martin Sellers This is wonderful , Bill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a joy and blessing her and her family will receive.
Monday at 11:08pm
Glenda Tapp Hodge Oh how I pray this is not another rumor....Please God, let this be true.
Monday at 11:23pm ·  1 person
Carl Jones Any confirmation?
Tuesday at 1:13am
Carl Jones My daughter is calling THP source
Tuesday at 1:16am
Carl Jones You are the reliable source Bill. You know better to post before confirmation. Shame on you if it's another rumor. Pray not.
Tuesday at 1:23am
Shannon Dykstra any update????
Tuesday at 8:45am
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1087626372&sk=wall#hollybobo

SOUTHERN NIGHTMARE … Deadly Tornadoes Rip Apart the South Killing 194 & 128 in Alabama

Please say a prayer for the folks in the South that were devastated by tornadoes yesterday. The pictures coming out of the devastation from the Southeast are beyond words. ....

MORE:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/04/28/southern-nightmare-deadly-tornadoes-rip-apart-the-south-killing-194-128-in-alabama/

Posted April 28, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

Good point. If it's true, that could be who the mother received the "tip" from, about the whereabouts of the phone.

southrah-  welcome to SM, and I thank you for your participation.

I have spoken to quite a few locals confidentially, and I know your information to be correct.

Is the reason you suspected this person immediately have anything to do with "his" prior behaviors?

B

Capp-

That Bill Way clown owes this family an apology.


One more thing, from a highly respected source, I can tell you that Holly Bobo is NOT in any Hospital nor has she been, in the Decatur county area or anywhere else, since she went missing.  Sadly.

Thanks, Blink.  I didn't think so.  My prayers go out to Holly, her family, and all who love her.

I knew you would be on it, friend.

Yes. I wouldn't want to put it on here for just anyone to read, but if I could tell you all the reasons I believe it, it would blow your mind. He is connected to everything, in one way or another.

Other than relaying the info to TBI, I can't think of anyone that could help. I'm now considered an outsider, so I wouldn't be listened to by the local LE. In fact, the info would go straight to who I suspect and my family would suffer for it. I can't really say how, or that would give it away.

Capp

I am not saying that Bill Way ... whose public reputation is on the line ... is the bearer of the truth encompassing aspects of the Holly Bobo case.  However ... until the truth is revealed ... who knows.

Could it be that Bill Way's backtracking has everything to do with sources that were not credible or ... investigators who have instructed him to zip it?

Personally ... I cannot get past the changing accounts regarding the abduction of Holly Bobo ... changing accounts revealed by spokespersons for the investigation ... changing accounts which John Mehr does not deny but refers to as miscommunication.

Could it be that Clint never diverted from his original account but ... the changed story has everything to do with investigators burying the truth for now?

Janet

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Holly Bobo Abduction: 2-week-wrap-up; rumors dispelled; next steps
April 27th, 2011 12:32 pm ET

<snipped>

“Dragged” or “led” into the woods

There has been some confusion regarding how the case was initially reported.

Initially law enforcement stated Holly was last seen being “dragged” into the woods by a man dressed in camouflage clothing.

They later changed the wording to Holly was “led” into the woods.

This spurred online attacks against Holly’s brother, Clint Bobo, who was the last person to see her as she was being led into the woods.

Some questioned whether Clint changed his story, if media misreported, or if there was a miscommunication from law enforcement.

Asked where the confusion came, Helm said, “I don't have Clint's statements in front of me to be able to tell you exactly what he said.

“I can tell you that there was some miscommunication,” Helm said.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-2-week-wrap-up-rumors-dispelled-next-steps

Very intriguing

I agree that it should not be posted here, as it sounds like we have the same data. If you can believe it,

You can post to me privately here, if you choose, just make the first line private:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/04/23/holly-bobo-missing-and-endangered-searchers-frustrated-an-easter-dedication/


What a mess

Apparently ... the FBI and TBI have been involved from the getgo.  Hopefully ... this is assurance that conflicts of interest in regards to relationships that may exist within the local LE will not hamper the investigative process.

Janet

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Holly Bobo Abduction: Week-in-review
Wed., April 13, Day 1: Recap from Decatur County Sheriff

<snipped>

There were questions as to why so many law enforcement agencies, including federal agents from the FBI and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI), became involved in Holly’s case on day one. Sheriff Wyatt said they were taking every precaution that they knew to take.

“At this time,” he said, “whatever it might be, then that’s what we’re trying to prepare for.”

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-week-review\

http://www.jacksonsun.com/VideoNetwork/903287890001/JS-Video-Sheriff-Wyatt-Kidnapping

Welcome South. I myself am a relative newbie and haven't participated on SM for awhile. Wanted too come out of lurkdom to ask: With regard to the individual you have in mind, is his family also well-connected? If so, could you speculate on how "high up" those connections run?

Yes, and disturbing......
Surely do wish I had a key to the secret clue closet.
I am really confused.
Still praying for Holly.

Well, this person in suspicion by southrah and also blink, much be someone who is very influential or at least connected to someone very influential.  Someone with prior behaviors, and someone that would retaliate against someone who divulged a suspicion?  In my gut, this confirms that they are looking at someone very closely - but why no action?  Hoping somehow this will lead them to Holly?

Being from a small, southern town, I can tell you that one reason state and federal agencies withhold info in local cases is because suspects had connections to local LE.  That may NOT be the case here, but its certainly the smart way to proceed. 

Must be an insider.

Well, I tried, but it posted my test line.

It's not really that he's connected, like in larger cities - politics, judges, law enforcement. It's that in this small town, everyone's family is connected somehow, and in every family or church, etc. There, the churches have as much power and influence as the judge. He's not particularly liked, but is feared by some. His family is well liked and known.

Anyone ever watch the show "Justified".  IMO, not totally unreal depiction of small southern towns.

My thought process too.

Janet

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Tamikosmom
Re: Holly Bobo, 20yrs old, Parsons TN, abduction from home 4/13/11
« Reply #749 on: April 23, 2011, 02:25:48 AM »

Despite the changing stories ... two days following the disappearance of Holly ... two days following Clint's belief that he observed Holly's boyfriend leading her into the woods ... two days following the discovery of blood that had yet to be analyzed ... Clint and Drew were distanced as persons of interest by John Mehr.  Mehr conceded that there were no other persons of interest.

It does not add up.

It is evident that the members of the community love and respect the Bobos and Scotts.  However ... considering the two obvious persons of interest were immediately ruled out by investigators ... do either family have influencial connections that may exist in "higher places".

Janet

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TBI Spokesperson - John Mehr

Holly Bobo Followed Kidnapper into Tennessee Woods in 'Fear of Her Life'
PARSONS, Tenn. April 15, 2011

<snipped>

The officer said that neither Bobo's brother nor her boyfriend were suspects. "We are confident of that," he said.
 
But police have no leads to the identity of Bobo's abductor.

"There is not a person of interest at this time," he said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/holly-bobo-attacker-woods-fear-life/story?id=13381683

If he has displayed prior behavior and is feared by some, is he widely suspected in this small community?

Also meant to ask, is he well known to Holly Bobo and/or the Bobo family?

They will know who he is, the dad for sure.

Interesting that you used the church as an example of how community members can be connected.

lol Yeah, and you don't have to actually attend, just if you family does and has and you grew up there, then it's your church and therefore stands behind you. Because the elders of these churches are the more wealthy people who built the town, as well as their parents.

Sadly, indeed...Im told the same but the sin of it is that certain individuals did give it merit & this family is going thru enough torture.   Yes, he owes the Bobo's a public apology.

Not sure if anyone has answered you yet, I'm still catching up from last night. I have hunted turkeys and it's done from the ground. Turkeys are not really flying birds, they can lift off for only short distances and don't get above the trees, cuz of their fat azzez...lol. They do roost in the trees at night leaving their ground nest and eggs on the forest floor unattended...don't know if that helps. Oh...another thing about turkey hunting, they can't smell for crap, but they can see like an eagle, camouflage, including face paint is a must and most states only allow hunting during dawn and dusk. When I hunted them in Maine, I was in the woods at 3am, waiting, and waiting.....and waiting sokme more. You don't stalk turkeys, you call them into range.

Janet, I really dont care what radio guy's excuse is, he should not have put anything out there about Holly's whereabouts or well-being unless it was confirmed.

I think he was one of those types that thinks he got inside information only to find out it was a rumor & just couldnt keep his mouth shut.

I agree.

However ... Bill did open his mouth and ... I speculate the reason for his silence is that he learned that his sources were wrong or ... investigators have told him to zip it.

Somehow if this radio personality did learn that his sources were wrong ... he would have apologized.  I could be wrong.

Janet

Good afternoon Monkeys!

Does anyone have a link handy for the full presser of Holly's parents? I saw it a week or so back, but now all I can find are bits and pieces not the full tape. TIA

Considering nothing is making sense to me in the Holly Bobo investigation ... I concede that I may be reading too much into the words of TBI Spokeswoman Helms.  I may be looking for a hidden clue where there is none.

Janet

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To My Knowledge

Holly Bobo Abduction: 2-week-wrap-up; rumors dispelled; next steps
April 27th, 2011 12:32 pm ET

<snipped>

Rumors Holly was found

There have been online rumors that Holly has been found.

Helm said, “To my knowledge, Holly has not been found. We don’t have information indicating she is either alive or dead.”

Helm said Tuesday afternoon, “We have no new developments to report on today.

“TBI is still following leads on her [Holly’s] case.

“Volunteer search will continue if and when needed.

“A news release will be issued by TBI when we have new information to release," Helm said.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-2-week-wrap-up-rumors-dispelled-next-steps

If he was contacted that he was wrong he needed to make the public apology immediately.   I doubt investigators would tell him to hush an apology for something being totally incorrect, they may have had a few other choice words with him though!    Anything is possible but I highly doubt at this point with the TBI & FBI and an eye from the Governor's office local LE would go that far to tell a source something of that nature only for it to be completely false considering it would be verified by the agencies that are in charge of the investigation.   Even a suspect would expect to hear this news from more than one local radio guy, especially with our highly communicative society even in these more rural neighborhoods i.e. TV, radio, newspapers, internet, high functioning cell phones.

It should say "Your comment is awaiting moderation".

Darla, you can try the archives at these local news links:
http://www.wmctv.com/
http://www.wsmv.com/index.html
http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/
http://www.wbbjtv.com/
http://www.wreg.com/

also check youtube

It does. What do you think?

Southrah - I often post there.  If Blink says it will be confidential it will.  Just be sure you put "Private" before you write your message.  It isn't like this forum where it appears automatically and then the mods look at it.

I was hoping the rumor was true and she would be found alive. Less and less likely sad to say. I'm beginning to wonder if it is even safe to be  a woman. So sick of hearing of yet another young woman gone.

I can't see it.  Only you can see it and Blink.

It just shows Blinks response now

Yep
B

 ::MonkeyAngel::   ::MonkeyAngel::

Ok. I see.

The only times I've every heard of authorities having someone hidden, who is believed to be dead, is when a hitman was supposed to kill them and they go back to the person for an incriminating statement after the supposed death or a money exchange or something like that. I can't see where that would fit in here.

But, like I said, no way a life flight took place there without everyone knowing it and all the details.

I see what you mean. Through just a bit of digging, it looks like folks stay in the area for generations. For instance, the high school principal appears to be a direct descendant of one of the town's earliest settlers.

Lots of great pictures of Holly & her brother in the music montage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmB8TaL29I

 

lol, I got ya-\

check your email

Not to say I suspect Jason Todd, I do see he is among that family bloodline.(of the town builders that is)

Capp ... we are on the same page.

If Bill Way learned that his sources were wrong ... logic dictates an apology should be forthcoming for opening his mouth without confirmation ... without authorization.

Nevertheless ... there are anonymous posters on every forum who claim to be privy to inside information regarding an imminate break in a specific case but when that  imminate break fails to materialize ... where is the accountbility ... where is the challenge?

Bill Way did not comment anonymously.  Considering his public personification ... I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he sincerely believed his sources were credible.  However ... if he was mislead ... an apology is where it is at and ... hopefully a lesson is learned.

Janet

 ::snipping2::

One of the questions raised online was: Should the fact Clint saw a man in full camo standing outside his home at 7:30 in the morning have raised a red flag?

A local resident familiar with the citizens of Decatur County and who wishes to remain anonymous said it is not uncommon for Holly, her boyfriend, or people in Decatur County to dress in full camo, and that it's not unusual to see someone coming out of the woods early in the morning dressed in full camo. Especially during the months of April and May.

The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency confirmed Wednesday that turkey hunting season runs from April 2 to May 15 for the general public. The agent confirmed that not only local residents hunt for turkeys in Decatur County. He said that people come from out-of-town and out-of-state.

From what locals say, turkey season is a big deal in Decatur County and was in full-force when Holly went missing.


 ::snipping2::

WSMV.com reported that authorities said the 911 center received two phone calls the morning Holly was abducted - one call was from Clint, the other was from a woman police did not identify.

It is well-known that Clint called 911, but it has not been confirmed who made the second call.

Asked to confirm if the neighbor called 911, Helm said, “I’m unaware that a neighbor made a 911 call.”

The assumption has been that Holly’s neighbor heard Holly scream and called 911 on the morning of Holly's abduction.

Asked to confirm when the TBI got involved in Holly's case Helm said, "We got the call within 1-2 hours after the 911 call [made by Clint Bobo] was made."

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/04/holly-bobo-clarification.html

Agree 100 percent. If you go back to the Topix thread, you'll see someone else said the helicopter was carrying a searcher who had injured herself on an ATV. Who knows if that is true either.

The only thing that gave me pause was the person who posted the rumor -- the radio guy. Anonymous posters are one thing but a public person is different. He should not have said anything IMO.

Brother??

::MonkeyWink::

It sounds like, if I am understanding correctly, that most town folks know who did this.  Who is protecting this person?  Is he still in the community or has he gone elsewhere?  I can't see folks tolerating this for much longer.

Well, I have to retract that, as it appears that the county's website lists one individual as high school principal (the descendant of a town founder to whom I originally referred); the actual school website lists someone else/new. Strange.

Hi everyone, new poster here...

In lurking and reading, it was clear to me that LE knows who did this, from their reporting that "it's someone in the community"...I realize that the town sounds to be one without a lot of outsiders, but then again someone mentioned truckers...but anywhoo...typically if they know it isnt an "outsider" than they know who it is, and are just awaiting the evidence to arrest (or waiting for the perp to reveal more evidence.)

couple that with the fact that there are now a couple people on message boards (who dont even live there) that have come to the same idea of who this person is...certainly LE knows.

Something that was posted, that I havent seen much info on, are the ATV tires that were posted for sale.  Does anyone have more info about those tires?

Im still curious about the brother and the boyfriend.....realizing that lots of people wear camo, I would think of someone looked like "Holly's boyfriend" from behind (in a small town with few people)...then there is a good chance that person was indeed her boyfriend.  I can recognize lots of people from behind, based on their size, build, the way they walk, etc.   

I was able to trace the number on one of the CL ads, but not the other.  I've not posted that information because I don't know if either of them are involved.

Welcome Marina!  I have had the same questions about the brother and boyfriend but LE seems to be saying the brother and boyfriend are cooperating fully.  Could the brother have meant the ex-boyfriend?  As far as I know we don't really know who that person is.  Could it have been a friend that happened to be a guy? 

I agree, LE has a good idea who this person is.

Id be curious to know if the person selling the tires is from that small town.

Also, if the person (allegedly) not allowing their yard to be searched is the unnamed person that southrah suspects.

It seems to me, that if someone is refusing to let their yard be searched, and they are indeed suspected, that it wouldnt be hard to get a search warrant.....

Beautiful song on that tribute video, Drew & Holly depicted in many of the pictures.   Clint's FB has a picture of Holly with the TBI number across it.

thanks Klaas :)

Well, just because they are (allegedly) cooperating...doesnt mean they arent suspect.    Another thing that is interesting about that....John Walsh seemed to be critical of the family, without being specific, but making generalizations about them not speaking to the media, and other such things, etc.  I would think John would be careful not to criticize the victim's family, unless he has some inside info that they are suspect.

The one number I was able to trace was to a person living in Jackson, TN.

sorry this was to southa

Probable cause has to be met

This one was from Parsons:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5634278053_1077bfd8b6_o.jpg)

This from Gadsden (I think about an hour from Parsons)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5181/5634278077_67983b2691_o.jpg)

Capp....re: probable cause....usually, it's not hard to find something, even unrelated, to get the suspect into questioning, which could then bring about something that could be used for probable cause. 

This may be due to the suspect's relations with important persons in town, if they know who it is and havent been able to get any foot in that door.  Im assuming they havent done any questioning, as it seems that would be known (and leaked) if they had questioned someone...but maybe Im wrong.

So....does the person suspected by southraw also have a red, honda atv? 

wondering aloud if they have any tracks in the area near her home.

Welcome to the cage marina!


I agree.

From the getgo it has been my contention IF

This one came up in Net Detective as being from Jackson.

I cannot with any certainty say for sure what has or hasn't been done.  I'd venture to say that its obvious questioning has taken place (which doesnt necessarily implicate someone).

I posted last night that my local CBS channel WREG at 5PM had a report and they spoke to the "significant finding" (reported cell) & went further to state that certain friends of Holly's and Clint's fingerprints have been taken (some of which as I know it a few are mutual).

Hi to all, I am new here. I have been following this case since the beginning. Following on here, and a few other pages, I just recently started reading Topix. There are many rumors and a lot of speculation on topix about who may have been involved.  I enjoy the pages that stick to the facts.  The rumors about her family have really ticked me off, they do not need that during this difficult time. I feel that it takes a truly disturbed person to commit crimes like these. I have been holding out hope that Holly is still alive, praying that she is. I hope the psycho who did this will be brought to justice soon. I know they have leads and I hope that the sorry piece of work that did this, if he has harmed her. I hope that he will fry for it. I do feel like it is someone in the community, I have thought that from the start. It didn't seem like a random thing. I felt like it had to be someone she knew in some way, or someone she had come across. Your not just going to be led into the woods that easily with someone you do not know. I wondered if she had been somewhat lured into the woods. Or maybe her life was threatened. She is a beautiful girl with her whole life ahead of her, and I hope that some sick selfish creep did not get the opportunity to take it away from her. Still hoping and praying for Holly's safe return.

Was it an 847 or 845 number?

Welcome Marina

It seemed that John Walsh more spoke of the family as to what he generally believes should take place such as keeping the case in the media by appearances, etc.  As we all know, he firmly believes that immediate family/friends should be polygraphed immediately working in and then extend an investigation out from there as well as assisting LE as to who they can eliminate as a POI or suspect.  He also believes its essential for family members to appear in interviews, etc. to keep the case in the public's attention (especially for tips).

I did hear him discuss the fact that to his knowledge her brother had not taken a poly but that's not to say it may very well have been done but not released for public knowledge.

Ok. Thanks. Check yours.

No, not really. I've not heard them speculating, except toward the family, just because they believe Clint's story changed. Also, some are saying that the dogs stopped at hitting scent off the property - not in the woods. Don't know if that's true.

Welcome Sunrise & add to that the hour it took place...7:30AM.  It was not an act of opportunity such as like if she were leaving a parking lot or walking along a sidewalk but not necessarily with people about to witness.  I agree, unfortunately she was specifically targeted.

The number I have tried tracing is 845.

nvm I see above it was a Jackson resident.

Southrah -  Does the person you suspect have anything to do with used car parts and/or tires?  (As either a business or a hobby)

Welcome to the cage marina!

I agree.

From the getgo it has been my contention IF Clint thought Holly was with her boyfriend ... then she was with her boyfriend.  It is not as though Holly's boyfriend was a stranger to Clint. 

Clint's account ... according to TBI Spokesperson John Mehr ... regarding the events encompassing the abduction of his sister causes me to suspect that an abduction never happened.

Janet

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Holly Bobo ‘In Fear of Her Life’
April 16, 2011

Holly Bobo, 20, was confronted Wednesday by a man in hunting camouflage who forced her to go with him into the woods, said John Mehr, spokesman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

“What we believe, and I’ll tell you he actually had an arm holding her and so we feel that she knew that she was in fear of her life so she was complying with his commands,” he told a news conference.

Mehr said investigators “did not see drag marks.” He added she was “not forcefully dragged and she’s like any other victim, maybe complying with her attacker, but she walked into the woods” outside her Pasrons, Tenn. home.

Bobo’s 25-year-old brother Clint watched from inside the home, but did not believe she was being abducted until later. He saw the stranger from behind and believed it was his sister’s boyfriend.

Her brother, said Mehr, “had reasons to believe [the man] was not an attacker,” and did not call 911 until he saw blood outside.

http://www.asapnewsnetwork.com/holly-bobo-in-fear-of-her-life/

The same family whose name is used on a road near the Bobo home.

While there for the search & speaking to certain parties otherwise I heard the absolute opposite from dozens I spoke to personally.   Not a sole, not a one speculated any wrongdoing on Clint's part nor the rest of the family.   I'm not saying that no one has right there in the community, I'm simply pointing out that not a word pointed in that direction was believed at all that I heard.   Considering we are at the two week mark it only serves as an indicator how most within the community may be thinking.

We're at a certain point in this case that many other ones experience without a relatively quick resolution when things are kept close to the vest by LE agencies, it raises concerns, speculation & even the rumor mill begins to spin faster....its an exercise in patience & at times a good bit of frustration at all levels.   We're all human, we all want answers, we all struggle as these heinous crimes reoccur all too often.

Welcome Sunrise!

That is a Parsons cell number. I may recognize it. Their cell numbers are actually listed as Dardin.

Yes, for sure.

xxx-xxxx Edited out phone number. We don't post personal phone numbers.  MB

I've read the back and forth today with interest and frankly, I'm so glad to sense they are closing the gap on the investigation and arrest.  Well, at least that's what I'm hoping is happening.

Since I have no clue as to "whodunit" and don't have the energy nor alertness to even loosely stitch clues together today, I just want to know one thing from those of you who are better attuned to what's happening...

Do you think Holly is still alive?

I haven't felt this up and down in hope and despair since Caylee's and Morgan's cases.  I think I got so emotionally involved in their cases that I tried to shelter myself from those that followed  However, the mere proximity of Holly's abduction has again caused this roller coaster of emotional distress. I am finding it more difficult to maintain my usual optimism.

I admire those of you who can delve into these cases day after day whether professionally or as an avocation. I just can't seem to readjust from the sadness now that I'm older and retired. I suppose it's because I don't have enough to distract me.

Holly's future is just unfolding and her nurse's career just beginning. It hurts my heart to think it may never bloom to its fullest. I do hope this ends as a fulfillment of scripture (loosely paraphrased) that in this case indeed, the sowing of tears reaps joy.

Hi Sunrise,

I dont think that it's ever a horible thing to question the story of the last person to see the victim, or their loved ones....and in this case they are one and the same.  What they need at this difficult time is to have Holly returned safely, and if that is not possible, to know the truth about what happened to her, and have the perpetrator brought to justice.

I can think of scenarios that dont involve a disturbed psycho......such as siblings or bf/gf getting into a heated exchange that accidentally turns physical....not that I would think such a situation is acceptable, or that I think it happened here, but there are many things that could have happened leading to blood on a carport and a missing girl, that were not meant to lead to death.

For that reason, nobody should be ruled out....but everyone's story should be scrutinized....and most loved ones realize that is necessary to do so in an investigation, and are not offended by it.

I dont know if this family is keeping quiet because they really already know who did it, and are just waiting for LE to get the evidence they need, or if there are other reasons for them to be quiet.  In any case, I dont look at speculating about anyone to be done out of harm, because everyone really just wants Holly brought home safely, and are looking at all avenues to get that done.

My thoughts exactly!

It would make sense that investigators consider the possibility that an unintended impulsive act of wrongdoing took the life of Holly Bobo ... an unintended impulsive act of wrongdoing that could not be taken back.  In other words ... an abduction never happened.
 
In the name of justice NOBODY with a close connection to Holly should receive an immediate pass from investigators as a person of interest ... especially the only witness to her alleged abduction.

Janet

Considering there is allegedly a restraining order against the ex-boyfriend for threatening the life of Holly ... Clint would have to explain why he had no concern when he observed his sister being "led" into the woods.

Janet

I was not aware of an ex-boyfriend with a restraining order out.....

TBI SPOKESPERSON: PREVIOUSLY RULED OUT

Search expanded for abducted West Tenn. woman
Updated Sunday, April 17th, 2011

<snipped>
 
(Kristen) Helm said authorities decided today not to eliminate anyone from a potential list of suspects, including Bobo's 25-year-old brother, Clint, who was present at the time of the attack, and her boyfriend, both previously ruled out.
 
<snipped>
 
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/apr/17/search-expanded-abducted-west-tenn-woman/

There have been unconfirmed rumors to that affect.

From the Bring Holly Bobo Home Safe, Facebook (I believe).  NOTE - THIS IN UNCONFIRMED RUMOR:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5104/5632029537_fdca4d827b_b.jpg)

marine

There is no confirmation that an ex-boyfriend with a restraining order again him exits.  Hey ... I have yet to read any confirmation that an ex-boyfriend exists.

That is why I included the adjective "alleged" in my post.

Janet

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Holly Bobo: FBI says "led away" not dragged through carport
April 15th, 2011 1:28 pm ET

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According to the source, Holly had two ex-boyfriends.  One from a few days ago and the other, she had a restraining order against, because he threatened to kill her.  Holly left the house to go to school and her brother heard her arguing with her ex-boyfriend who was dressed in camo, outside the home.  He saw them both walking towards the wooded area of the yard, and he went back to what he was doing.  About an hour later he noticed his sister's car was still in the driveway.  He called his parents, a friend of Holly's and then the ex-boyfriend, and then the police.

Holly's ex-boyfriend was at work earlier and then left and he has not been seen since.

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http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-fbi-says-led-away-not-dragged-through-carport

that is interesting...albeit unconfirmed.  Southrah did mention that the person she suspected (which I believe blink also has heard could be a suspect)...is someone that people might be afraid of (oh, too lazy to see how she phrased it, but that it wouldnt be a surprise or something....)

In any case, we must all be going in the wrong direction, or be following lots of crazy internet rumors....because from far, far away....it seems to easy....

Either
1. it's easy, and LE are really lame (probably not the case)
2. it's not what we think at all
3.  it's easy, but the ties to this perp are such (money, LE) that they need to mind every p and q before making a move.

Which leads me to wonder....does ex-boyfriend have a red honda ATV?  and what does his daddy do?

realizing this is all just speculation....but that piqued my curiousity even more....

which ex has not been seen since? the recent ex or the one with the restraining order?

was he at work prior to 7:30, and then left before that time....or was he at work AT 7:30 and left later (maybe due to being upset or wanting to be with family/friends to find her)??

Welcome to all our new Monkeys.

I want to revisit the phone because that is , in my mind, a very key piece of evidence into who this perp is?

The call is placed to Holly's Mom saying the cell phone can be found at a certain location.

The Bobo's and community have a $80,000 ransom for her Holly.

$80,00 ransom's normally mean that LE is tapping the phone lines of the family members..so if that call comes in..they have a recorded conversation.

The caller has not been ID'd for us yet..therefore we don't know who it was that called..doesn't mean LE doesn't know who called.

The phones being tapped at the Bobo's home would mean that the call was more then likely placed on Holly's phone.  That means the phone was more then likely recharged at some point during her disappearance.

LE sends out searchers..the local LE and fire company to pick up the phone and scour the area..possibly for the Sim Card..possibly for any other evidence.

That leads to the conclusion that this person is not only taunting her family, but also LE.

I would think with brass balls like that, it is not unreasonable to believe they would have enjoyed being part of the searches.  Not only to know what was going on where, and when....but also to enjoy their own handiwork and the activity they had created.  Look at me..see what I can do!

LE has tire treads, a phone, more then likely a recording of that voice on the phone, a lunch purse and possibly a good indication of who placed that call.

I am hoping that the call was placed by an alive Holly under the direction of her captor...but that may not be so....but it sure would eliminate any risk he took in making that call and someone ID'ing his voice.

I do not think that he is doing this for the ransom..I do think he is doing this to settle some score, either with Holly, her family or possibly a friend..and he is also doing this to settle a score with LE.  I don't think this is some demented outsider ..this feels personal and premeditated...he knew what he was going to do at each turn..he planned this and is watching and waiting and participating. 

JMHO


 

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According to the source, Holly had two ex-boyfriends.  One from a few days ago and the other, she had a restraining order against, because he threatened to kill her.  Holly left the house to go to school and her brother heard her arguing with her ex-boyfriend who was dressed in camo, outside the home.  He saw them both walking towards the wooded area of the yard, and he went back to what he was doing.  About an hour later he noticed his sister's car was still in the driveway.  He called his parents, a friend of Holly's and then the ex-boyfriend, and then the police.

 ::snipping::Is all that I can find

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Xt1Eqf-Kc8MJ:www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-fbi-says-led-away-not-dragged-through-carport+Holly+bobo+ex-boyfriend+with+a+restraining&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera&source=www.google.com

Older article.. but I don't think I have seen it on here yet. Has some quotes from residents/volunteers

http://www.wlbt.net/Global/story.asp?S=14462447

Officials ask residents for help in finding Holly Bobo

Parsons, TN -
(WMC-TV) - At a press conference Sunday, TBI officials said they have found items that may help them in the search for missing nursing student Holly Bobo.

Authorities are asking for help from people in the Parsons community as the search for Bobo continues.

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Hello Monkeys,


I just checked into a hotel in SC and on the front door was a missing person's flyer of Holly Bobo..I immediately thanked the clerk for having it posted... ::MonkeyAngel::

That's great Mymonkey!

first I have seen this....makes sense, if this is accurate, why Clint called the ex......

If any of this is true, the only real question, is who is protecting this guy?

Maybe nobody is protecting the guy.  Maybe LE doesn't want the guys name publicized yet.

No, that is not from FB it is comments made by a person that posted comments attached to ABC articles, they were posted here by me in the first thread. 

What I don't understand is, why the restraining order ex has not been identified in FB or gossip.  Usually names are bandied about in the press and on FB by people who know the victim and are gossiping and/or speculating.  No one - as far as I know - is saying anything about this guy and where he is or what his background is., or the circumstances of the RO.  The silence is weird IMO.

It's possible that there's no truth to the ex-boyfriend story and that's why there have been no names rumored about.

True, but even that has not been discussed, at least as far as I've seen here (I don't have FB).  No one saying, that's nonsense about an ex with a RO, everybody loves Holly, etc. 

Good point A's Fever - I don't know what to tell you.

I agree...the silence is weird.  And on the facebook page, BHBHS, people seemed especially concerned that onlhy good thoughts and prayers be mentioned, NO SPECULATION....even more so than is typical with cases such as these.  Ive always found that odd, because speculating is often how you figure out theories and eventually find the person (albeit by LE, not internet forum folks...usually)  Made me think everyone really already knew who the person was....and for reasons I dont understand, wanted nothing said about it.

Actually, it has been discussed & even locally which I heard for myself.   For now, since its talk versus deemed relevant & confirmed as such by the TBI and other LE agencies, I'm leaving it there.

It sure seems like not one thing has been confirmed except that Holly was taken and a lunch box found. The rest is confusing or too sensitive to even speculate about. It's as if the whole town is off limits. Very strange.
Is there fear amongst town ppl. that a stranger may have been stalking?
Is there local whispers or is everybody mum out of fear or respect or ??
Since the 13th is a long time for rumors to be squashed.

how many locals turkey hunt on wk days


From what locals say, turkey season is a big deal in Decatur County and was in full-force when Holly went missing.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/04/holly-bobo-clarification.html

just looking,checked 2 links,look at all this land,the size of a small pk
wonder if these have been searched

for sale 40 acres 
Property Type(s):  Recreational Land 
http://www.landandfarm.com/property/40_acres_in_Decatur_County_Tennessee-304223/

Property type:Land/2 properties/72 & 89 Acres
http://www.landwatch.com/default.aspx?ct=R&type=5,74;6,853;13,12;92,480;268,6843;361,80866

i also wonder who was on vac time that wk,if no tips come in about someone
missing work with out a verifiable reason.
could be they were on vac time but not far away,and maybe the
vac time was planned,for the abduction

IDK,just trying to fig this out

That could very well be possible, that maybe someone took vacation time, said they were hunting but in reality they did take it for the abduction, good thought. I hadn't thought of that.

I don't know about there, but here, guys (and some gals) will go hunting before classes, after classes, before work shifts, etc.  Also, schoolsystems are having spring break and so that is a time for hunting as well.  Hunting is something that some folks do like some of us follow crime forums.

Interesting thought posted at Blink's site.  I hadn't thought about it that way:

Poopsie says:
April 28, 2011 at 9:35 pm

Is it possible the reason the blood DNA results are not being discussed is because the blood didn’t come from a person at all? If you wanted to lure a nurse-in-training into the woods during turkey hunting season, you could make up a plausible story (“my friend has been in a hunting accident in the woods”) if you were covered in turkey blood…

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/04/23/holly-bobo-missing-and-endangered-searchers-frustrated-an-easter-dedication/#comments

So true! I grew up in a small rural hunting town, and it's true. My own father lived and breathed for the next hunting trip.

I had thoughts along this line...someone played upon Holly's nursing skills to lure her into the woods. I thought of animal blood at the scene or that maybe it was Holly's abductor's. Now I'm thinking about all the dog talk last night too....

I am very troubled concerning many aspects encompassing the Holly Bobo investigation.  It is my hope that TBI investigators are behind the scenes diligently  putting together a case that implies that justice for Holly will be the outcome.

Anyways ... off for a little nap.  In 3 1/2 hours I am attending the wedding of Kate and William.  My soft pink flannel gown covered with tiny little white daisies will dazzle all.

Janet
9:35 PM PT

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I saw you..you looked divine darling  ::piggy::

Sounds lovely :)

Also, I agree with what you've said. There are many troubling aspects.

The wedding was magical!  It was worth it to me to lose a night's sleep to have witnessed this historical event as it happened.  Not hubby.  He went to bed.

No updates on the Holly Bobo case?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

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Search mum on item linked to missing Tenn. woman
The Associated Press

Friday, April 29, 2011 | 3:16 a.m.

Searchers have found an item they think belongs to a Tennessee woman missing for nearly two weeks, but investigators aren't saying what it is.

A Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman said Monday it is unlikely the item found in the hunt for 20-year-old Holly Bobo will be described publicly unless investigators decide there is reason to do so.

The nursing student was last seen being led away from her rural home April 13 by a man wearing camouflage clothing.

TBI spokeswoman Kristin Helm said investigators are "pretty sure" the item found in the ongoing search belongs to Bobo but it's not certain it will help.

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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/apr/29/us-tenn-woman-abducted/

 

willnunley Will Nunley
No official public search plans have been released to me today. #hollybobo #teamholly
3 hours ago
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http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/holly-bobo-abduction-2-week-wrap-up-rumors-dispelled-next-steps

Identifying persons of interest

CBS reported, "Tennessee law enforcement officials say that the search for missing nursing student Holly Bobo is narrowing, as they begin the process of identifying persons of interest in the case."


An email was sent to Kristin Helm, the spokeswoman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations, Wednesday to confirm the CBS report.

This was Helm's response: "No, that's incorrect. What I told the reporter was that our investigation was narrowing, there was no mention of a person of interest.

"Meaning that there's a lot of things we know now that we didn't know ten days ago and that our investigation is more focused. We are currently still following all leads."

Officials stop using citizens in search for Holly Bobo
Flooded roads cited as reason
11:20 PM, Apr. 27, 2011   
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20110428/NEWS25/104280313

With some flooded roads and water levels rising, law enforcement authorities have decided to suspend the use of volunteers to help look for Holly Bobo.
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"Anything new that comes up we can react, but as far as volunteers we're not reorganizing them until the (flooding) stabilizes," said Lt. Brad Wilbanks with the Tennessee Highway Patrol on Wednesday.
ohn Mehr, special agent with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, said in a high profile case such as this that authorities have received numerous leads to follow up.

Since the abduction, thousands of volunteers have been involved in the search. If needed, they could return to help in the search, Mehr said.

"It won't be uncommon for us to ask them to come back to look at new areas or go back over areas we've already covered," he said.
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There are actually quite a lot of registered sex offenders just in Decatur County:

Registered sex offenders in Decatur, Tennessee

http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Decatur-Tennessee.html




Hat tip to CherokeeKid

And another link which provides a picture and the offender's profile:

25 Offenders found in the Decatur County Area:

http://www.homefacts.com/offenders/Tennessee/Decatur-County.html



Hat tip to CherokeeKid

Its sad to say there are tons of areas that do, very scary

Police in Holly Bobo investigation still mum about item found during search for missing nursing student

CBS/AP/WREG) PARSONS, Tenn. - Searchers have found what they believe to be a personal item belonging to Holly Bobo, the missing Tennessee woman, but are still not saying what it is, citing the ongoing investigation.

Pictures: Holly Bobo Missing

The new clue was reportedly found last weekend along the road in the northern part of Decatur County, Tenn.

The item most likely won't be described publicly unless investigators decide there is a reason to do so, a Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman told CBS affiliate WREG Monday.

TBI spokeswoman Kristin Helm says although they're "pretty sure" the item belongs to Bobo, they are not yet certain it will help the investigation. So far the only item found that's been confirmed to be Holly's is her white lunch bag, according to WREG.

One volunteer involved in the search claimed the new item found was 20-year-old Holly Bobo's cell phone, according to local station WMCTV. ::snipping2::

Is this something New?
CBS/AP/WREG) PARSONS, Tenn. - Searchers have found what they believe to be a personal item belonging to Holly Bobo, the missing Tennessee woman, but are still not saying what it is, citing the ongoing investigation.

Pictures: Holly Bobo Missing

The new clue was reportedly found last weekend along the road in the northern part of Decatur County, Tenn.

The item most likely won't be described publicly unless investigators decide there is a reason to do so, a Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman told CBS affiliate WREG Monday.

TBI spokeswoman Kristin Helm says although they're "pretty sure" the item belongs to Bobo, they are not yet certain it will help the investigation. So far the only item found that's been confirmed to be Holly's is her white lunch bag, according to WREG.

One volunteer involved in the search claimed the new item found was 20-year-old Holly Bobo's cell phone, according to local station WMCTV.

MB, I didn't post the entire number.  It was the area code and the next three digits, but not the entire number.  Just wanted to make sure you understood that.  If you still have to x it out, I understand.  I would never post an entire number here without getting permission.
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The exchange of the number I was able to trace was 988.

New Monkey, anytime I see  more than an area code that would be a persons home phone or cell phone number, I will edit it out.   Sometimes monkeys that are doing research  involving telephone numbers and other personal information do it by emailing one another since they can't post it on Scared Monkeys.  Even if a telephone number is posted elsewhere, we still can't post it here.  Scared Monkeys is an open forum and I shudder to think of what it would be like for some poor soul to find their telephone number posted on here.  Even though you may not post an entire number here without permission, unfortunately some have and some will.  Thanks for understanding. 

http://www.wsmv.com/news/27723859/detail.html

Disappointment Grows In Missing Woman Search
Few Clues Found In Search For Holly Bobo
Reported by Josh DeVine

POSTED: 4:22 pm CDT April 29, 2011
UPDATED: 5:23 pm CDT April 29, 2011

PARSONS, Tenn. -- As the mystery surrounding missing Decatur County woman Holly Bobo grows, so does the disappointment.

Apart from two small clues, there's no sign of the nursing student. It's weighing heavily on those in her hometown, who are no longer part of the search.

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About 2 1/2 weeks later, the command center is now closed. The volunteer search effort is temporarily suspended -- another layer of frustration for many in the weary community.

"We're just disappointed," said volunteer searcher Billy Craft. "We should be out there. We should be doing something. … I think she's still alive; that's my gut feeling."

Still, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation put off volunteer searches until there's credible evidence pointing them to a specific area.

On Thursday, Channel 4 news revealed exclusively that the TBI will examine the cases of four women, abducted or killed in the surrounding area, as part of the Bobo investigation. The cases date back 30 years.

The mere possibility of a connection, though, is added worry for a town desperately wanting to help and waiting for a reason to celebrate.

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