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« Reply #540 on: November 24, 2008, 02:55:19 PM »

wasn't there a cage missing near the FM's hut ?
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« Reply #541 on: November 24, 2008, 02:56:11 PM »

Kermit said something about another fabric that "Swayed"  was this the blouse???

I wondered the same thing, Always.

There is no doubt in my mind now that Silvetti was the man in
the Red Shirt.
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« Reply #542 on: November 24, 2008, 02:57:58 PM »

wasn't there a cage missing near the FM's hut ?
That was a little one Johan
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« Reply #543 on: November 24, 2008, 02:58:20 PM »



ALE cleaned the trap on the 7th.
I bet they did gezz I feel sick.



Blonde,  when you were discussing the zip lock bags several days ago, this is the type of bag i thought you meant.  I was surprised when you reposted the plastic bag in the drainage basin.  I didn't think of that as a type of zip lock bag. 

My heart is so heavy. 
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« Reply #544 on: November 24, 2008, 02:58:29 PM »


Maybe someone was telling us it was this boat in the Aruba Bay Video's
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« Reply #545 on: November 24, 2008, 02:59:23 PM »

Kermit just told us that ALE didn't know that the ROV was filming on the 7th while they were cleaning the trap.  The photographs from the 7th are the ones that Mos and Richardson didn't know about.

And the question is???Who were the divers on this day that the evidence was being collected....Kermit???How do we go about finding this out?

I would think a "Mansur" was involved in the dive?
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« Reply #546 on: November 24, 2008, 03:01:54 PM »

Kermit just told us that ALE didn't know that the ROV was filming on the 7th while they were cleaning the trap.  The photographs from the 7th are the ones that Mos and Richardson didn't know about.

And the question is???Who were the divers on this day that the evidence was being collected....Kermit???How do we go about finding this out?
I see three here,in my screenshot, one is Tim Trahan
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« Reply #547 on: November 24, 2008, 03:02:02 PM »

Going back to the other end of this story may bring arrests..
Focus on the big drug deal.
The Boss.

What ever happened to Natalee happened at the big drug deal.

Big Drug dealers do not like to share territory.. MAY OF 2005 only one Big one listed.
Also
Casinos are nice places to wash money..

Moran probably brought her into a situation that could have no outside witness, poor girl.


Paulus sitting at that table gives the Boss a lot of leverage over him..

As It was all Morons fault for bringing her to the deal ? He only wanted to show off and bragg.. Idiot.
Was it the Maddy apartments. ?

Anyways.. Go after the drug dealer.

He is easy to find.. All the judges know him and his family. 

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« Reply #548 on: November 24, 2008, 03:04:37 PM »

wasn't there a cage missing near the FM's hut ?
Yes but they are saying it was much smaller like this one.
Wonder if this is the blue tarp?


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« Reply #549 on: November 24, 2008, 03:05:42 PM »

Going back to the other end of this story may bring arrests..
Focus on the big drug deal.
The Boss.

What ever happened to Natalee happened at the big drug deal.

Big Drug dealers do not like to share territory.. MAY OF 2005 only one Big one listed.
Also
Casinos are nice places to wash money..

Moran probably brought her into a situation that could have no outside witness, poor girl.


Paulus sitting at that table gives the Boss a lot of leverage over him..

As It was all Morons fault for bringing her to the deal ? He only wanted to show off and bragg.. Idiot.
Was it the Maddy apartments. ?

Anyways.. Go after the drug dealer.

He is easy to find.. All the judges know him and his family. 



It will be interesting to see if what Greta is touting is true and that Joran implicates himself and his father tonight.  slowly the pieces fall together. 
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« Reply #550 on: November 24, 2008, 03:06:20 PM »

wasn't there a cage missing near the FM's hut ?
That was a little one Johan

ha die Bastibro

so they used a ship with a hoisting crane for that cage ?
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« Reply #551 on: November 24, 2008, 03:06:21 PM »

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/11/24/tonights-on-the-record-at-ten-pm/

November 24th, 2008 10:44 AM Eastern
tonight’s On The Record at ten pm
by Greta Van Susteren
If you watch On The Record tonight you will hear Joran van der Sloot implicate himself…and others. The “others” may surprise you. Is Joran telling the truth this time? The Aruban prosecutor needs to get ambitious …and work on this investigation…he can prove or disprove what Joran told us on camera in Asia. We need the prosecutor to now do his job…

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« Reply #552 on: November 24, 2008, 03:06:59 PM »

Kermit just told us that ALE didn't know that the ROV was filming on the 7th while they were cleaning the trap.  The photographs from the 7th are the ones that Mos and Richardson didn't know about.

And the question is???Who were the divers on this day that the evidence was being collected....Kermit???How do we go about finding this out?

I would think a "Mansur" was involved in the dive?

"If" a Mansur was involved in the dive.Where would that leave Jossy in the event that is true??What are the percentages that he would be aware of this occuring?
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« Reply #553 on: November 24, 2008, 03:07:16 PM »



ALE cleaned the trap on the 7th.
I bet they did gezz I feel sick.



Blonde,  when you were discussing the zip lock bags several days ago, this is the type of bag i thought you meant.  I was surprised when you reposted the plastic bag in the drainage basin.  I didn't think of that as a type of zip lock bag. 

My heart is so heavy. 
Does it look like a tiny bit of the blouse in the same bag with the skirt fabric???
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« Reply #554 on: November 24, 2008, 03:07:49 PM »

Kermit said something about another fabric that "Swayed"  was this the blouse???

I wondered the same thing, Always.

There is no doubt in my mind now that Silvetti was the man in
the Red Shirt.



The baseball cap.....
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« Reply #555 on: November 24, 2008, 03:08:02 PM »

wasn't there a cage missing near the FM's hut ?
Yes but they are saying it was much smaller like this one.
Wonder if this is the blue tarp?




and we are told this one was about the size of a queens size mattress, correct?  that isn't that small.
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« Reply #556 on: November 24, 2008, 03:08:52 PM »

Do we know where the trap with the remains was found?
I am thinking off the north-west tip of the island in 90' of water.

Isn't that where the Gottenbos family lived?
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« Reply #557 on: November 24, 2008, 03:10:52 PM »



ALE cleaned the trap on the 7th.
I bet they did gezz I feel sick.



Blonde,  when you were discussing the zip lock bags several days ago, this is the type of bag i thought you meant.  I was surprised when you reposted the plastic bag in the drainage basin.  I didn't think of that as a type of zip lock bag. 

My heart is so heavy. 

I'm sorry I  Misunderstood you.
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« Reply #558 on: November 24, 2008, 03:11:09 PM »

Did I understand Kermit to say that it was not Kyle that turned any of the 6 pictures over to the FBI that were sent by the FBI to Robin?  If not who?  If it were Silvetti, why would he turn over just a portion of the pictues,  and why would he not turn over the tapes and anything else he had acquired.  The log book?  Why??

Kyle sent those 6 pictures to the FBI, Dave asked him for them. He didn't give them to him. The FBI did, then Robin posted them on her webiste and then Kyle accused Red of posting them on SM and they had an argument.

1 - Shaefer sold the rights to these images for BIG BUCKS
 
2 - Kyle tried to sell the rights to those images to major US networks in Feb 2008
 
3 - John Silvetti had plans to open an office on Aruba this past spring.
 
4 - John Silvetti  discounted anything and everything about that fish trap - before anyone even dove on it.
 
5 - Louis Shaefer reorganized his company in JANUARY 2008 - coincidental timing?  Doubtful.
 
6 - Kyle wanted help to get this info to Beth and to the public.  Then he stalled, lied, threatened, to stop that from happening.
 
7 - This information was sent to:  Beth, JQK and the FBI by NO ONE connected to the Persistence search.  EVER.
 
THEY ALL KEPT THIS INFORMATION FROM NATALEE'S FAMILY, AND FROM THE FBI
 
WHY?

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« Reply #559 on: November 24, 2008, 03:11:21 PM »

Do we know where the trap with the remains was found?
I am thinking off the north-west tip of the island in 90' of water.

Isn't that where the Gottenbos family lived?

Yes, the same end and side of the island.  The Gottenbos's lived in Malmook
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