Lively Case Discussion #594 3/29 - 4/1/2007

[Tibrogargan]

Klaas - another really good link is :

www.nexusmagazine.com

in the top banner click on "articles".  Amongst the "out there" articles you will find a lot of ones covering food dangers such as soy allergens, canola oil, margarine, aspartame as well as inoculations and pet food. etc.
One interesting one on Mycoplasma and how they think it can cause all sorts of conditions including MS which your husband might like to read also.

[Tibrogargan]

Looks like I can start cleaning early tonight ......they have all gone and the night shift have not arrived yet.  Only 2 am ET - nearly time for Seamonkey to be up and about.
   

[carpe noctem]

[carpe noctem]

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PAULUS AND HIS DISAPPEARING MEMORY

--- "POPPA'S GOT A BRAND NEW TENNIS BAG" ----

COMPARISONS WITH PAUL'S

3 DIFFERENT A.L.E. STATEMENTS

6/18
6/23
6/25

2005
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load alert!



6/18/05


On May 30th at approximately 08.00, I went to work.

snip

Between 17.00 hours and 18.30 hours, I dropped off Joran in front
of the entrance of the Aruba Raquet Club with my Suzuki

**** so that he
could take tennis lessons and go to the gym.


>>>>He probably had his carrying bag with tennis necessities with him.


>>>> I saw him enter the building. He had told me that he would afterwards be going to the Wyndham Hotel because a “Free Carribean Stud Tournament”
would be held.

I immediately went home, had dinner with the other boys
and after that I went to bed. I do not remember having had contact with
Joran after that. We did make an agreement that he would call me after
the tournament was over, or that he would have someone drop him
off at the house after the tournament.






6/23/05


To your question what I did after 16.15 hours, I can state the
following. I think I dropped of Joran off at the “Raquet Club” at approximately 17.00 hours. I could have been later though.

 I cannot exactly remember anymore.


-RIGHHHHHHT.

To your question whether I saw Joran enter the “Raquet Club”, I can state the following. If I drop off Joran he normally walks inside.

* on 6/18/2005 he say he saw him walk in.

NOW HE HAS AN ALZHEIMER'S ATTACK--

LOAD ALERT!

>>>
As far as I can remember he did do that at this occasion too but I
do not know for sure.




I can also remember he had told me that he
was going to enter the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham. I had told him that he could always call me
if he wanted to be picked up to go home. He said
that he would do this or that he would hitch
a ride home with someone.

To your question if I can remember what Joran had with him
when I dropped him off at the “Raquet Club”,
I can state the
following.

LOAD ALERT!

>>>
Every time that he goes to play tennis he has a sports
bag with tennis equipment with him. I cannot visually play back in
my own mind whether I actually saw him carrying the bag.

*** TRY SAM-E YOU DOUCHE BAG! =)


Sometimes Joran just went to work out at the “Raquet Club”. On those occasions he would not have his
tennis bag with him.

To your question on which days Joran followed tennis lessons,
I can state the following. According to me he certainly has them on
Monday.

* Monday is a tennis lesson day, you JUST SAID IT, you douche bag.
>>THIS DUDE CANNOT BEING THIS STUPID, it is not medically possible!!!!


(cont'd)



And there is one more day that he has lessons but I cannot
remember what exact day that is. Occasionally we have a joint lesson
with Jerry.



*** Someone get this ATHLETIC SUPPORTER a cookie he just remembered the instructors name. ding ding ding!

To your question whether we can ascertain whether I had
dropped off Joran in order for him to go to a tennis lesson,

I can state
the following.

 

*** elephant load alert coming up! Put on your gas masks, Monkeys!

---- time shifting

---
I took him there to either follow a tennis lesson or to go
to the gym. Whether he indeed took a tennis lesson or went to the gym
I cannot say because after I had dropped him off, I went home.


*** Dropping him off and going home quickly have absolutely no
    correlation with Paul-Ass knowing if his little INCUBUS, Joran
    OF OF THE BUTT, will be taking tennis lessons or not!!!!!

    I cannot believe this wheel-barrow load is STILL WALKING AROUND
    FREE TODAY. He should have been beaten severly with the largest        
    frozen salami someone could find.
   











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PAULUS HAS AN ATTACK OF THE OLD MEMORY BUG... AND THEN
MAGICALLY EVERYTHING GETS CLEAR AGAIN.


righhhhhht.


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6/25/05

We spoke last time about that Monday night when Joran was at the "Raquet Club", that I only took the bag with me.

*** He takes the tennis bag to Joran LEAVING THE CLUB
       AND HEADING TO WYNDHAM TO GAMBLE. THIS IS
      COMPLETELY BACKWARDS. UNLESS HE PICKED THE BAG
      UP FROM JORAN. That is the only way that trip would
      make sense in this situation.

Paulus

*** LOAD ALERT  coming up

He's time shifting now. Moving his time from 5p - 6 ish --- now to 8 pm.

No memory of Joran's bag... and now all of a sudden. OOPSIE MY BAD!!!!!!!!

(cont'd)

I am remembering that it was around 08:00pm
when I took the bag to Joran at the “Raquet Club”, this was when Joran was
walking in the direction of the Marriott and made the announcement that he
was going to participate in the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham that this
came up. In my view I even grumbled (expressed concern) on Joran

*** BULL-SHIZZLE /


Did you catch that? No language barrier here about the bag coming
or going...

he definitely says I TOOK THE BAG

>>> TO JORAN

Joran is going to gamble. He left the Racquet Ball Club.

Taking a bag to Joran at this time, wouldn't make sense
even to a dumb sack of methane gas Medley Relay @ the FOB
hole! LOL

(cont'd)

PAUL-ASS...

and then went
on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family.
Again I am not sure. This image comes in my head,
but I had no reason at that moment to remember any of these
things.




*** I vote that this guy goes to jail for JUST BEING A MORON. We can work the charges up from there!!!!

At the very least we should string him up & let Beth Twitty
continuously shoot him in his lunch sack with a Nerf Ball Gun.
ROFL!!

What a jerk.
----

(cont'd )

I had done a lot on automatic pilot. Sure when it came to pickup
and bring the kids back. I also don't know the relevance of this fact.

On your question on what time did the above occur, I can explain to you the following:

The association of 08.00pm comes to me,
because I thought that the tournament
didn't start at 08.00pm?

On your question if I saw other friends of Joran at the
"Raquet Club" on that Monday night of May 30 2005,
I can explain to you the following:

I can't remember if I had seen Joran's friends.


********

Sorry GUY, THAT MEANS NO ALIBI.




********

THROUGHOUT THIS TIMELINE PAULUS DOESN'T HAVE MUCH OF AN ALIBI
AT ALL !!!!!!!!!!!

MUCH LESS THE FLASK OF DOG SNOT FOR A SON THAT HE'S GOT!!!

I REPEAT, JORAN IS ROAMING FREE WITHOUT A NET DURING THIS TIME PERIOD!!!!!!!!

& HE'S GOT A BIG ASS TENNIS BAG!!!!!!!! ...NO FRIENDS
IN TOW. He's LIVE & NATIONWIDE. Free to be burying,
bagging Natalee, whatever... nobody knows.


Am I the only one that sees some

real problems with this after Natalee's disappearance?


That lousy sack of carbon dioxide
deposits helped his son
get away with murder.

PERIOD


That bag was totally involved & it's a HUGE RED FLAG. imo

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REVIEW OF PAUL'S 3 SEPARATE STATEMENTS

PROBLEMS

1. Joran had the bag in the first interview and walked in. By interview
    3 of 6/25/2005 He's taking the bag to JORAN after all tennis  lessons
   would be over @ 8p (although we know Joran effin skipped
   his tennis lesson  to boot)

  JORAN not only at this point doesn't need a tennis bag for his lesson.
   He's heading to gamble.

   IT NO MAKEY NO SENSIE, ESEY! PAULUS HAS HAD TOO MUCH
   WATER BONG TIME. MISHY WOULD BE SAYIN' PUT THE BONG DOWN
   MR. OF OF THE DITCH!!!!

  *** THIS BAG --- and all its' inconsistencies indicates to me there's
   something REALLY wrong & fishy going on. 5 BELLS ALARM HERE!!!!

 2. Paulus GETS WRONG at least twice that I can recall, maybe more,
     the time and the place where Joran supposedly asks him if he can
     go to the Wyndham to gamble. Once Joran asks, then Joran tells,
     once Joran is asking on the phone, once he's telling in person. One
     time it is before the lesson starts.... then it is at 8 pm. They're
     all over the road, like drunks.

     Joran gets it wrong all the time in his statements as well.

   3. PAULUS -- Has this unique memory on/off switch thing going
       on which makes hime appear to be dumber than an effin
        newt.

       He can't even remember the time he picks up Sebastian, HIS
       OWN DARN SON!!

       Yet this SWAMP LOAD remembers that Joran said Natalee's momma
       is the sister of.... blah.... the Kalpoes she said were slaves ... yada
       yada.... He can recall this like he's friggin "RAIN MAN"


       BUT... the bag is just such a cloudy thing to remember. FORGET IT!!!
       He's lying his twanger off. I am soooo over this over-perspiring,
       undulating, doughboy loser.


      ONE MORE @

      #4 Joran's original destination is the WYNDHAM but he goes
           to ARUBA GRANT for 15 mins, and then hits the WYNDHAM.
           He can't even reconcile THATTT story with his PARENTAL UNIT!

       What a economy-sized freshly cracked a$$. He make-a-me-sick.

NO STORY MATCHES AT THIS POINT - TIMELINE MELTDOWN.

...AND NO DOUBT THEY'RE DOING IT ON PURPOSE
TO THROW PEOPLE OFF.

Justice 4 Natalee
BOYCOTT ARUBA


***  over and out.

[carpe noctem]

GOOD MORNIN' MONKEYS

 

you rawk!

[IBE]

Carpe I can't get to sleep... glad you had the large letters to get me more awake

OT.. I just posted in the Lounge under the pet recall Thread an email I recd today from Iams and Eukanuba dry pet foods and one from Perina.

Klaas "they" think Fibromyalgia and Gulf War Syndrome are related to chemical exposure too. Could be from food source, insecticides, who knows?

When on location, each day some of the sets, especially the westerns would be sprayed with insecticides.

More each day I become more like Robots I only eat lettuce and eat out at one restaurant for 25 + yrs here... where you can see the kitchen as you walk in the back door.

They say this plastic resin causes toxicity in animals but not humans. From Homeopathic Medicine we know that just a very small amount can have an affect. I wonder what food manufactures in America buy their wheat from China?? Thinks it's time to start asking.

I tried for years to only buy things in glass containers in the grocery, but it became a lost cause... I really think plastic and food just don't go together!

Is the "Barf diet" ref. in the Thread on Pet food for real?  

Robots I'd buy your pet food and be glad to pay for the shipping! It's like Nonesuche's cookies... we know where they are coming from!

My dog has been giving me some dirty looks; I think he knows I am thinking of making my own pet food... now if I can just find the stove!

I owe library fines so won't be using their computers; so I will miss you all for about 7 days as computer will be under it's last days of AppleCare.

[carpe noctem]

Natalee Eyes

 


http://tinyurl.com/26ud3e

[IBE]

Natalee's eyes

Yes and the Good Monkeys are still pressing for Justice for Natalee as we are helping being her "eyes". I hope I made sense with this..

[carpe noctem]

hey IBE

thanks I will go have a look see on the pet food stuff.

good luck with the computer repair, so sorry

it'll be for a whole 7 days!

I know you'll be happy when it's
fixed though.


...later

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[Leslie]

From Diario:  American Tourist Killed
Turista a perde su bida tragicamente
 
ORANJESTAD(AAN)-- Ayera tardi un turista a perde subida tragicamente ora cu el a dal cu waverunner den otro waverunner cu su yiunan riba dje. E turista Cornelius Dennis Powers naci dia 14 di januari 1963 ta na Aruba cu su familia y awe mester a bolbe Merca.
Informacion cu a logra haya di e desgracia tabata cu e turista tabata riba un waverunner cu un yiu y dos otro yiu tabata riba otro waverunner. Den maniobranan riba lama, e dos aparatonan a dal den otro.
E impacto tabata asina fuerte cu e tata a haya golpinan y probablemente sangramento interno y cu ambulance a transporte mes ora pa hospital unda el a fayece...

[Peaches]

This could result in a lot of problems for Joran.



thats a shame  

Boo freakin' hoo.

Couldn't happen to a more delicious sporter.

"Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing"  
Words to live by from Dr. Phil.

Good morning.

[nonesuche]

Good morning IBE-

I think I may switch to organic flour after this recall for my cookies, heading out now to buy some, it's just not worth the risk. Actually Saddam sprayed our troops at night with chemicals during the Gulf War, there was a fine mist in the air and it was proven it came from his planes and my Rick lived through that. His oncologist also said she felt sure his exposures in the war were accelerants for his cancer. Like you, I feel if melamine has that affect upon animals it's certain to have some impact on humans too. I keep remembering a pair of melamine plates with a mug that I got for my kids when they were young, one with horses on it and the other with boats. They so loved those little plates they ate off them everyday. Now I worry....

We will miss you and hope we can have an Easter party when you return.

[nonesuche]

Hi Peaches, did you get my email last week? I hope you have a lot of R & R this weekend !!!!!

off to the store before the crowds start.......but don't time me, I'll never be as fast as Klaas  

[Cat]

Anna,a glaser round is plastic coated over liquid teflon and shot pellets inside.Angie,I wish there was something I could say to help.I have seen friends who have MS and it is really a bad desease.Autism is also on the rise,for unknown reasons.I posted a long time ago,that I felt Natalee became part of a snuff film.I don't think it was intended,it became.I have heard these float around in South America and the Netherlands.CAT

[Peaches]

Yes, None, I got  your mail.  I must have been multi-tasking and forgot to email you back.  Happens all the time.  

Snuff films.
Hard to ponder early in the morning.  I've had the same thought many times.  Now there's a cottage industry one would just as soon keep under wraps!  And it's just far enough past regular dirty pictures to interest people like that.

Carpe and robots!  Love you two!  Love how you cut to the chase.  

Yes, it's terribly rude to speak another language in front of a non-speaker of aforementioned language.  I'm shocked and appalled that such a fine family with such lovely children (so well mannered, you know) would consider speaking Dutch in front of an English speaking visitor!  It used to annoy me at the nail salon but I knew they weren't talking about me.  (I asked).  I hope it keeps poor Med up at nite wondering what they were saying about her!

[IBE]

Thanks None Melamine (sp) is still being sold and the article said thos white foam erasers are made with the same stuff.

I am looking into hooks where I can hang plants on vinyl )sp) siding and thinking of getting those plant pouches where you can have several tomotoes, or several strawberries, or flowers in each one and just have them grow down sides of the trailer as I have very little ground.

Hoping Monkeys can gather more pet food recipies.

Actually, only 1 day left under Apple care so am going to ask them about some hard drive things, and the WiFi reception is harder since the computer was in last. Am going to miss AppleCare... can't afford anything that will happen from now on.

I have been very lucky.. perhaps  since 1982 have had about 9 Apples, 2 macs, 2 iBooks and this is the only one that I have ever had to have service one. so I have been blessed... but I expect less problems, hassles with a MAC.

I feel like I am sending a child off to camp... guess I'll just have to use my monkey time to clean the kitchen.

[Peaches]

IBE, I was without a PC at home for a week and it drove the entire family nuts.  The Teen Princess nearly went into withdrawals.  I had to remember  to do all my important stuff while I was still at the office.  

Perhaps you can make some notes while  your Apple is away and update us when it comes home again.  I know I forget stuff if I don't have a list.  (LOL....like that's the best excuse I can come up with!)

[carpe noctem]

   

ANOTHER AMERICAN TOURIST KILLED IN ARUBA? (diario)?



oh MAN.


How terrible.

Oh Mrs Marple!!!!???? You hear that

[Peaches]

It looks like it involved someone born in 1963? and  had something to do with a waverunner?  

Waverunners are dangerous to start with in my opinion.  Of course, windsurfing is dangerous if you drift out too far and then someone has to swim out and get you.       I drove a jet-ski when I was younger and even tho it is a lotta fun, you have to pay attention.