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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL - DAY 7- 6/01/2011  (Read 267208 times)
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« on: May 31, 2011, 07:12:06 AM »



FOR LIVE HEARINGS, THESE ARE THE USUAL LINKS:

No refresh clicking required:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream


Other live stream sites:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

http://www.wftv.com/video/27049808/index.html

* Constantly on Casey
http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html


http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wesh.com/video/27050096/detail.html

iPhone App
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/casey-anthony-updates/id428240236?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Android App
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsn.localnews147

SKYFIRE - MOBILE BROWSER FOR iPhone and Android
http://www.skyfire.com/

MAGIC EYES - Link to Magic's posts where she has transcribed the days events.  Thanks Magic!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=4694;sa=showPosts


 



Now that we are finally starting the trial, all Off Topic posts will be moved to the MURDER TRIAL BREAK ROOM without comment to the poster, it will just happen.  Please keep that in mind.  It is too hard for people to catch up if they have to wade thru Off Topic too.  TIA

BREAK ROOM THREAD

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.0
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 05:15:54 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys! I hope we see Lee today and I hope he's in a truth telling mood! Justice For Caylee!  ::justice2NJ::
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 05:54:55 AM »

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-day-7-20110601,0,5791337.story
Casey Anthony trial: State wants to discuss Casey Anthony's fraud, theft convictions
By Amy Pavuk, Orlando Sentinel
5:31 a.m. EDT, June 1, 2011

Lawyers in the first-degree murder case against Casey Anthony are slated to argue this morning about her prior felony convictions in a check-fraud case.

The state wants to be able to tell jurors about the convictions, which occurred in January 2010 when Casey pleaded guilty to 13 charges. Orange County Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland -- the judge who formerly presided over the murder case -- found Anthony guilty on six of the charges: one count of grand theft, four counts of check forgery, and fraudulent use of personal identification

Strickland withheld adjudication for the remaining seven counts.

Anthony, now 25, was sentenced to time-served. At that point, she had already served 412 days in jail. Strickland also ordered her to one year of probation and ordered her to pay the court and investigative costs associated with the check-fraud case.

Anthony was charged with stealing hundreds of dollars from a friend, Amy Huizenga, in July 2008. Investigators have said Anthony used Huizenga's checks to buy more than $400 worth of clothes and groceries at area Target and Winn-Dixie stores.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 06:21:37 AM »

After watching this monster I'm starting to sway - the dp is too good for her.  I want her to suffer for the rest of her life.

If she is found guilty (please oh please) and gets life without parole would she be in the general population?  I've seen alot of stuff on television where they don't like baby killers!   Which would be worse for her?  being housed with inmates that hate baby killers or solitary confinement with no one to lie to?
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 06:54:11 AM »

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4702530/emotional-day-in-court-for-casey-anthony
Latest News
Emotional Day in Court for Casey Anthony
May 31, 2011 - 4:39 -
Inside trial with former Anthony attorney Bradley Conway



http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/968470260001/casey-anthony-trial-heats-up
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Casey Anthony Trial Heats Up
May 31, 2011
- 5:44 -
FNC’s Geraldo Rivera on the latest in the trial of Casey Anthony for allegedly killing her daughter Caylee Anthony.
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2011, 07:06:06 AM »

Going to be a wild bunch in the viewer seats today . Looked like a stampede.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 07:07:47 AM »

Good morning monkeys.  Let me say I am so sorry for every bad thing I have said about cindy
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 07:11:22 AM »

my 2 yr old got a piece of packing tape stuck in her hair yesterday - it was a mess.

I'm convinced that there is NO way that anyone would purposely put duct tape around a little girl's head & in her hair and PLAN to eventually take it off.  You'd have to cut the hair - have to!  I don't buy the theory that ICA used chloroform & put the tape on in case Caylee woke up - it was all an accident.  No way.  If she put that duct tape on while Caylee was alive she planned on it staying put!!!
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 07:11:32 AM »

I hope and pray today is going to be a good day. Justice for Caylee. I'll be at work but catch up later in the evening. Thanks for all the monkey help.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 07:18:28 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys,

There are now 50 available seats inside the courtroom.  This morning the people were running to get on line for a ticket which allows them inside.  The media will now be seated in the balcony section.

 
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 07:52:09 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys,

There are now 50 available seats inside the courtroom.  This morning the people were running to get on line for a ticket which allows them inside.  The media will now be seated in the balcony section.

 
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 07:52:37 AM »

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/05/31/caylee-anthony-case-magport-reports-on-trial-053111/
Caylee Anthony case: Magport reports on trial 05/31/11
Posted on May 31, 2011 by Valhall
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2011, 08:00:50 AM »

Goodmorning
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2011, 08:02:45 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys,

There are now 50 available seats inside the courtroom.  This morning the people were running to get on line for a ticket which allows them inside.  The media will now be seated in the balcony section.

 
Good morning Monkeys and welcome GoGoopy.


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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2011, 08:03:05 AM »

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4702530/emotional-day-in-court-for-casey-anthony
Latest News
Emotional Day in Court for Casey Anthony
May 31, 2011 - 4:39 -
Inside trial with former Anthony attorney Bradley Conway



http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/968470260001/casey-anthony-trial-heats-up
Latest Video
Casey Anthony Trial Heats Up
May 31, 2011
- 5:44 -
FNC’s Geraldo Rivera on the latest in the trial of Casey Anthony for allegedly killing her daughter Caylee Anthony.


Thanks for the updates Trimm.     Geraldo is such a jerk.    Fox needs to can the SOB.   
Good morning everyone.    Justice for Caylee is one day closer.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2011, 08:05:47 AM »

They keep playing the scenes of yesterday where Cindy is so emotional and Casey is cold..the talking heads are all talking about it as well..does not paint a good picture of Casey to the jury..
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2011, 08:08:42 AM »


http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1215


NOTE BY VALHALL - I'm beginning this thread with a comment by Attorney Silverspnr posted last evening in the proceedings thread that explains the legal issues behind the argument that will take place first thing this morning concerning whether Casey's prior felony convictions will be allowed into the trial for the purpose of impeaching Casey.

In the Huggins case, the defendant did not take the stand. His defense attorney, over the hearsay objection of the State, elicited testimony from a prison guard about whether the defendant had SHAVED HIS PUBIC REGION DUE TO A LICE OUTBREAK--as the defendant would have claimed had he taken the stand,-- thereby exposing him to having his credibility attacked with evidence of his prior convictions on crimes involving dishonesty.

The purpose of his lawyer eliciting this testimony was to show that the defendant did NOT shave his pubic region in order to avoid having a pubic hair sample collected, and to specifically contradict the State's claim that he shaved his pubic region in order to avoid being INCULPATED by the evidence it would have rendered.

The short of it is that if HE had testified to what he did, he would have been subject to impeachment via his prior convictions pursuant to Section 90.601.

So...In an attempt to avoid putting him on the stand and subjecting him to 90.601 impeachment, his attorney got his out of court ASSERTION as to what he did and why he did it into evidence THROUGH ANOTHER WITNESS.

But UH-OH.
Rule 90.806 says that if he gets that HEARSAY EVIDENCE before the jury through another witness... the State can then move to admit the PRIOR CONVICTIONS even though he hasn't taken the stand.

Remember (from my long ago post), "HEARSAY" (in the LEGAL realm) isn't defined as "something someone else said".
HEARSAY is an "OUT-OF-COURT ASSERTION that is OFFERED for the PURPOSE of proving the TRUTH OF THE MATTER ASSERTED THEREIN".


So... it is not what laypersons think it is, and it is understandably quite confusing, even to many lawyers and judges, so don't lose sleep over the details unless you are preparing to represent yourself in court sometime soon.


For instance, an "ASSERTION" can be an ACTION someone took (shaving his pubic hair, for example), and so long as it is being offered to prove the TRUTH of why the assertion (either a statement of an action) was made, (as opposed to some OTHER, NON-HEARSAY REASON), it is subject to the hearsay rules of evidence.

And it is the PURPOSE for which the OUT-OF-COURT "assertion" is being OFFERED that makes all the difference.
(You will hear one side object to a question by stating, "Objection-calls for hearsay"; and you might hear the other side say, "Judge, we are not offering it for its TRUTH. We are offering it to show STATE OF MIND" or "CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT" or for some NON-HEARSAY purpose.)

Now-
As I pointed out in the prior lengthy explanatory post, there are NUMEROUS EXCEPTIONS to the hearsay rule. (And I mean anywhere from 18-26, depending on the jurisdiction).
Yes, it is a complex area of evidence law.
And yes, a lawyer can get into trouble (or create trouble for his client) if he is not well versed in the rules or simply fails to comprehend them, or simply makes an error.

A good example of one of the widely accepted exceptions to the hearsay rule is an "EXCITED UTTERANCE".
For example: "Something's WRONG...I found my daughter's car today... and it smells like there's been a DEAD BODY in the DAMN CAR!" is an "excited utterance" and therefore is admissible pursuant to a specific exception to the rule.
Why? Because it is an assertion (either a statement or an action) made by the witness when he or she was speaking or acting under the stress/excitement of the moment/circumstances such that there is such an inherent indicia of reliability in the assertion so that we accept it as being truthful on its face.

In other words, we EXCEPT from the rule an assertion that was made where the person making it did not have time to reflect on the situation in order to fabricate it.

Another example of an exception which takes the circumstances under which the statement is made into account is the "DYING DECLARATION", which is an assertion made by a person who is operating under the stress of the belief that they are, in fact, dying at that moment. (This is how we can get a deceased crime victim's statement that "X SHOT ME" into evidence after they have passed away, so long as the statement was made under the appropriate circumstances indicating the required indicia of reliability, i.e. they really were dying --or believed that they were dying--at the time they made the statement.)

In any event...
You can read Huggins v. State, 889 So.2d 743 (2004). (GOOGLE IT).

As you will see, there is a dissenting opinion which disagreed with the majority's affirmation of the trial court's admission of this evidence.
The dissenting opinion discusses that even if the prior convictions are proper to admit pursuant to Section 90.806, the trial court should still engage in a "403" analysis.

Rule 403 (in Federal Court, and in the States where I practice) has a similar counterpart in the Florida Evidence Code: Section 90.403.
All deal with the admissibility (or, the inadmissibility) of evidence whose probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of its prejudicial effect, etc.

Here is the Florida version:
90.403 Exclusion on grounds of prejudice or confusion.—Relevant evidence is inadmissible if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of issues, misleading the jury, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence.

So... expect Baez to argue that a) the prior convictions are inadmissible, improper impeachment, or b) that even if the court finds they are proper impeachment (due to his opening the door), the court should still exclude them under a "403" analysis...and wait to see how Perry rules=)
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2011, 08:09:13 AM »

Morning Monkey Friends  JUST US for Caylee an angelic monkey an angelic monkey an angelic monkey
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2011, 08:11:24 AM »

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4702530/emotional-day-in-court-for-casey-anthony
Latest News
Emotional Day in Court for Casey Anthony
May 31, 2011 - 4:39 -
Inside trial with former Anthony attorney Bradley Conway



http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/968470260001/casey-anthony-trial-heats-up
Latest Video
Casey Anthony Trial Heats Up
May 31, 2011
- 5:44 -
FNC’s Geraldo Rivera on the latest in the trial of Casey Anthony for allegedly killing her daughter Caylee Anthony.


Thanks for the updates Trimm.     Geraldo is such a jerk.    Fox needs to can the SOB.   
Good morning everyone.    Justice for Caylee is one day closer.

Geraldo is pond scum.  He claims the prosecution has been "trickling out" bit & pieces of damning information.  He needs to be told it's call the Sunshine Law and the only "leaks" have been the appearances of Baez, Miss Piggy and the rest of the scheme team.  In reality, the "slutification" of Casey was her doing and started a long time ago.  I gguess they keep him online just for hurricane seasons.  He does make a great wind sock.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2011, 08:11:46 AM »

If Only..... Cindy and George had not covered up what Casey had done this would have been over a long time ago, while i feel sorry for Cindy that of course they lost a grandchild that they adored i still feel they are at fault for not coming forward and trying to protect Casey. i will be interested to see what Lee has to say
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