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« Reply #540 on: April 03, 2007, 06:53:34 PM »

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Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
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MF...Scuba...all Arubans on this board. I was reading a newspaper article on line about an American citizen who's being detained because of some infraction with the law, or taking the law into his own hands so to speak, and according to the article the American consulate has been notified. This person apparently has some high level U.S. security clearance and there the possibility that the U.S. media might get involved very soon, due to the geographical location and another American citizen in trouble. Any feedback anyone?


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Yes, a very known person who has American nationality but lives in Aruba has been arrested for threatening a person who damaged the car of his wife on purpose.

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M.W. had permission to carry a weapon, but what he did can cost him at least a year in prison or a heavy fine. He did not notify the police, he did try to do justice on his own and the most serious part is that there were witnesses that saw that he threatened the person with death. A threat is very serious crime.
He has been in detention for investigation ever since, but is now in the hospital for special care, since his health has been deteriorating due to the stress and depression.



Who are they kidding.  How about when Rudy Croes threatened to shut Beth up.  I take that as a death threat wouldn't you.


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« Reply #541 on: April 03, 2007, 06:58:03 PM »

Those pics of Natalee that Dickweed had
Photoshopped...


They washed out Natalee's color... and gave her a cold sore
looking thing on her lips. I believe they altered her look
on purpose...

>>> pisses me off

They try to make goon-++++ the Dutch Mongaoloid look better!!! Confused

He needs a kick in the laundry basket. Shocked
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« Reply #542 on: April 03, 2007, 06:59:33 PM »

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Those pics of Natalee that Dickweed had
Photoshopped...


They washed out Natalee's color... and gave her a cold sore
looking thing on her lips. I believe they altered her look
on purpose...

>>> pisses me off

They try to make goon-++++ the Dutch Mongaoloid look better!!! Confused

He needs a kick in the laundry basket. Shocked


Carpe - that may be true but don't forget those are screen captures from a video, so they may have lost some of their original color.
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« Reply #543 on: April 03, 2007, 07:01:50 PM »

right.
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« Reply #544 on: April 03, 2007, 07:04:17 PM »

heya klaas,


Look at this one I put together this morning.





NATALEE'S  ARM AND CLUB BRACELET

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dffddfddfd-1.png
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« Reply #545 on: April 03, 2007, 07:06:26 PM »

Aruba Pictures Slideshow (always updating)

http://tinyurl.com/2u3Xnq
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« Reply #546 on: April 03, 2007, 07:06:44 PM »

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heya klaas,


Look at this one I put together this morning.





NATALEE'S  ARM AND CLUB BRACELET

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dffddfddfd-1.png

I do see what you are seeing.  I wish I knew the size of that bag.  I have a hard time believing that the bag is large enough.  Sometimes I wish I weren't so logical  Wink
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« Reply #547 on: April 03, 2007, 07:11:30 PM »

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heya klaas,


Look at this one I put together this morning.





NATALEE'S  ARM AND CLUB BRACELET

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dffddfddfd-1.png

I do see what you are seeing.  I wish I knew the size of that bag.  I have a hard time believing that the bag is large enough.  Sometimes I wish I weren't so logical  Wink



Right, I'm not totally convinced the entire thing is one unit. At certain
places it appears to be 2 separate bags... the smaller one containing
the head and body with the Nat eyes.... then the larger bag piece
underneath that... which is the bigger of the two.

The basin has been measured... so the parameters of that are known.

I believe it is not only very possible... but more on the probable side of the fence.
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« Reply #548 on: April 03, 2007, 07:13:03 PM »

Carpe - yes,no doubt the basin is large enough.
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« Reply #549 on: April 03, 2007, 07:15:05 PM »

Now there are three in the bag...

but the other two are really just heads, that is how it appears to me.

Some people can't get past that 3 body thing... some are only parts...

like a morgue was utilized or raided.
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« Reply #550 on: April 03, 2007, 07:16:59 PM »

The purpose for that was:

a. confusion

b. degradation & destruction of forensics
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« Reply #551 on: April 03, 2007, 07:18:59 PM »

AS ROBOTS SAYS:

and I concur...


"I FRIGGIN' H-A-T-E   THEM ALL.
 Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad
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« Reply #552 on: April 03, 2007, 07:52:06 PM »

It sounds like the Refugees know what those files were. Also sounds like some of them thought that VDS parents should know about them. For what good THAT would do...

Anyone else get TOTALLY creeped out by that fake picture of Joran and Natalee together? Remember that we know Natalee from AFTER the events of that night. We have not seen them together in any REAL photos, it seems incongruous to see them that close like a couple. Even the real CC pictures which show her shoulder bending down from the stage seem kind of surreal.

That whole night seems like a dream in some ways, yet we know it happened. We just can't fill in the details.
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« Reply #553 on: April 03, 2007, 08:02:36 PM »

"A threat is very serious crime. " posted by MF

So are perjury, obstruction, rape, and murder.
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« Reply #554 on: April 03, 2007, 08:09:21 PM »

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"A threat is very serious crime. " posted by MF

So are perjury, obstruction, rape, and murder.




Hey MF,


Go put some more glue down in a brown paper bag

and get yourself a good couple of lusty whiffs

you FRIGGIN' MOE - RON!

You need yerrr coconut checked,
yaaa un-edu-macated dirty
rat bassss-taddd.

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« Reply #555 on: April 03, 2007, 08:11:31 PM »

Does anyone know what Widget is talking about?
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« Reply #556 on: April 03, 2007, 08:11:31 PM »

HELLO, THIS YOU...

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« Reply #557 on: April 03, 2007, 08:17:06 PM »

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Does anyone know what Widget is talking about?

Which post?
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« Reply #558 on: April 03, 2007, 08:20:37 PM »

This one, Klaas:


"I Read On The Sperm Chewing Dogs Site .........

They Are Expecting An Execution Tomorrow ..........

Hopefully It Happens & They Get Them All ............. "
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« Reply #559 on: April 03, 2007, 08:20:59 PM »

Just posted on the front page of SM by Evilive:

I have not posted in a while so here it is…….
Paulus to Jan and others.
There was this blonde American female tourist that tried to get Joran and Geoffrey in trouble. They say some photos of her at the HI. They thought she was hot and any easy pick so they wanted to have a little fun with her at C and C’s. She ended up slapping Geoffrey and when Joran made his advances; she tried to file a report to the police against both of them.
Joran will point her out to me when we go to the casino. Joran is going to try and bring her over to my place before she leaves Aruba. If Joran can get her I think we should teach the little slut a lesson she won’t forget. Anita won’t be home and neither will my other boys; it will be perfect if he can get her. We’ll teach her a lesson and then bring her back to her hotel. She won’t remember a thing. You know; why not asked Freddie to come over and video tape our lesson.
We have done this to other tourist at least twenty times before and nothing has ever gone wrong.
But something bad happened didn’t it Paulus? Natalee was a virgin. There was blood on the mattress. Natalee was slipping in and out of consciousness when she stopped breathing. You all tried to revive her unsuccessfully. You know you could not report this to the police because jan van der Straaten was already there. You tried to find information on the internet about drug interaction. You called your buddy at the funeral home. He told you he would send someone over from the church and wait for you to bring Natalee; but you had to come up with some amnesia money.
You placed her in your truck, went to the ATM and then went to the cemetery.
The caretaker placed her temporarily in a crypt until everyone could figure out what to do with the body.
Later your truck was confiscated so no evidence could be found.
Later you found out the caretaker and Benson tried to collect Natalee’s reward money and you had both of them killed.
You thought you had plenty of time to secure your no body you have no case.
You got rid of Natalee’s body and clothing.
However; you left behind Natalee’s underwear that Anita found.
Aruba could not let it be known that a prominent judge, other officials and their sons were involved in date rape schemes. Aruba’s tourist business would go straight down the tubes.
Keon and Guido are your weakest links, so you had to get them out of the country. Jan is a bag of nerves and he got shipped to Bonaire.
Dompig said that he could solve the case, but it was bigger them him; especially when they threatened to include Michael in the rape and murder. Or was he, and they threatened to expose him.
You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme. You can’t bring closure now because you don’t have a body to return.
You all rushed to cover up but didn’t count on how much exposure Natalee would receive. Now it’s no body no tourists.
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