Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007

[crazybabyborg]

Night, Lala's! I share your beautifully written sentiments!

[crazybabyborg]

My napper's calling as well! Have a wonderful and safe night, monkeys! God Bless you all!

[Tibrogargan]

By the time I get back here all the monkeys have left.  Hopefully they are all safely tucked away out of the storms.
Here is a news article showing some familiar activities by perverts.  At least in this case the law has taken action.

TEEN FILMS GANG RAPE ORDEAL

Kara Lawrence April 04, 2007 02:16pm
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

A 17-year-old girl was gang-raped by two teens while others watched and filmed the attack on a mobile phone, before forwarding the obscene footage to Sydney school students.
Liverpool police this morning arrested five 17-year-old boys over the horrific attack.

It occurred in January but it was not until nine days ago that the victim, from Sydney's southwest, took the brave step of coming forward to police - despite being threatened and told to stay silent.

Three of those arrested - including a high school student from southwest Sydney - will face Parramatta Childrens Court this afternoon. One of them is alleged to be one of the two principal attackers.

The other two face court tomorrow.

The attack occurred at a private home in southwest Sydney. Two teenage boys subjected the victim to forced, degrading sexual acts while three other teenage males watched.

One of those watching filmed the attack on a videophone. The footage was later forwarded to a number of others, including of students of at least one Sydney high school.

The school authorities were alerted to the images around the same time the victim came forward to police.

Liverpool detectives plan to investigate and charge anyone who has forwarded the images either via phone or internet. Jail terms of up to three years apply.

Police raided homes in Green Valley, Kemps Creek and Miller at 7am today and found one youth at his workplace.

One of the youths arrested this morning is accused of being among the two principal attackers. All five are being charged with aggravated sexual assault, a term that attracts a maximum 20-year jail term.

[WidgetTheMidget]

I cant see yours SB and lalas point of view..  BUT I see some photos differently..  I have looked over Carpes phoobucket accts over and over in the past.  IMO..  there is definatley a head/heads in those bags.  There are alot of photos to go through.  
  Recall long ago SLEUTH posting some as well?   I know we all see things differently..  !!  <not arguing here>

HI Angie ...........

IMO I Believe The Bag Had An Image Quite Like Natalees Face .........

Looked Like She Sustained A Large Head Trauma .........

You Actually Can See The Outline Of Her Swollen Face ..........

If This Was'nt Someones Practical Joke ..........

Natalee At One Time Was In This Bag ..........

Could Be The Image We Are Seeing Is The Impression That Was Left ...

Or Maybe Natalee Herself Is Trying To Tell Us Something .........

[WidgetTheMidget]

I cant see yours SB and lalas point of view..  BUT I see some photos differently..  I have looked over Carpes phoobucket accts over and over in the past.  IMO..  there is definatley a head/heads in those bags.  There are alot of photos to go through.  
  Recall long ago SLEUTH posting some as well?   I know we all see things differently..  !!  <not arguing here>

HI Angie ...........

IMO I Believe The Bag Had An Image Quite Like Natalees Face .........

Looked Like She Sustained A Large Head Trauma .........

You Actually Can See The Outline Of Her Swollen Face ..........

If This Was'nt Someones Practical Joke ..........

Natalee At One Time Was In This Bag ..........

Could Be The Image We Are Seeing Is The Impression That Was Left ...

Or Maybe Natalee Herself Is Trying To Tell Us Something .........

After They Killed Her They Had To Move The Body .........

They Probably Wrapped Her In This Plastic Bag .........

I Remember Somewhere That The Bag Smelled Awful ....

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Hi Widget..  I havnt made it to bed yet.. checking emails  I have.. so behind.

Here is one link Carpe sent in email and posted..  
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/dsssddssd.png

 I do recall wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy back when . when Sleuth posted.. you and I both saw a person in that photo.   Others didn't.
  IMO there WAS..  
 Hope all is well with you and your girls.
  My butt gotta get to bed..    

[WidgetTheMidget]

When Did They Really Decide That There Was NO Body...........

When Paulus Told The Perps No Body No Crime Or .........

When The Government Found The Broken Remains Of Natalee.........

They Decided  NO BODY To Coincide With PVDS's Statement ........

They Decided To Playhouse The Case To Look Like Something Was ...

Happening To Resolve It But All The Time They Were Acting The Parts ..

Knowing What The Outcome Would Be .........

NO BODY NO CRIME .........

Everyone Who Is Anyone On That F**kin Island Is Involved In This ....

[WidgetTheMidget]

Hi Widget..  I havnt made it to bed yet.. checking emails  I have.. so behind.

Here is one link Carpe sent in email and posted..  
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/dsssddssd.png

 I do recall wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy back when . when Sleuth posted.. you and I both saw a person in that photo.   Others didn't.
  IMO there WAS..  
 Hope all is well with you and your girls.
  My butt gotta get to bed..    

This Photo Is Not The Same That We Saw That Day ...........

THe Other Black & White Photo Is Much Clearer .........

Its Almost Like The Plastic Bag Grabbed Natalees Image .........

[WidgetTheMidget]

We Will Never Find Out What Happened To Natalee Until .......

Someone Instills Forced Trauma On Those Involved .........

We Will NEVER Get Any Results From The Government Of Aruba ........

Until All Who Are Guilty Suffer The Same As Natalee Suffered ........

[WidgetTheMidget]

Sweet Dreams ...............

 

[carpe noctem]

SLIDE SHOW UPDATES THIS MORNING


I think I am going to start burning to DVD

for DVD/TELEVISION playback as well.

I wanna see it on bigger, better, screens.



>>>

http://tinyurl.com/2u3Xnq


'MORNIN' PEOPLE!

Justice 4 Natalee.

[carpe noctem]

I do believe this will be Julia Renhoe's

BIGGEST STORY OF THE YEAR!



>>> A MUST READ


http://tinyurl.com/yqth47

[Frijole]

Carpe,

       
Thanks!  I needed that.

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[Leslie]

American Counsel Intervenes in the Micheal Saladin Case
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/3/A-3-4-07.pdf
Page 5

[sharon]

I do believe this will be Julia Renhoe's

BIGGEST STORY OF THE YEAR!



>>> A MUST READ


http://tinyurl.com/yqth47

   

Carpe --

This old post from the SM front page that I am posting below, the conversation amongst J2K in the police van (about the gun, they will see the sh$t), Satish's statement about 'how's the girl' and the recent post from evilive all support your thoughts.

The first time I saw the enlargement of the bag in a 'contrasted' view, I saw 'parts'

"freycohen Says:

January 11th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
The Insider information that I heard that is it. Earlier on when the fish cage was stolen the the same night that Natalee was found missing. Dompig reported the incident to van der Statten, and the then police commissioner ignored the search for the protection of Joran. Joran at that time hided the big knife in his dad’s house. van der Statten told Beth that Natalee was dead and he saw the insider information in June. Joran chopped Natalee into two halves in the open sea and stuffed her body parts into the fish cage and weighted it down into the deep with some boating people. The big knifes were dumped into the landfill the following night. Natalee was killed at Sloot’s house. They never went to the lighthouse."

[Peaches]

Good morning.

Stormy night last night but I love sleeping when it's raining so it was all good.  Could have used a couple more hours of shut eye but the sun is coming up and it is going to be a great day.

Working and lurking now that I'm caught up.

[San]

American Counsel Intervenes in the Micheal Saladin Case
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/3/A-3-4-07.pdf
Page 5

Thanks Leslie.  How happy does the guy look in the suit.

I see there is an article with a picture of our favorite Aruban spokesperson Ruben Trapenberg on page 9.

[San]

I do believe this will be Julia Renhoe's

BIGGEST STORY OF THE YEAR!



>>> A MUST READ


http://tinyurl.com/yqth47

   

Carpe --

This old post from the SM front page that I am posting below, the conversation amongst J2K in the police van (about the gun, they will see the sh$t), Satish's statement about 'how's the girl' and the recent post from evilive all support your thoughts.

The first time I saw the enlargement of the bag in a 'contrasted' view, I saw 'parts'

"freycohen Says:

January 11th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
The Insider information that I heard that is it. Earlier on when the fish cage was stolen the the same night that Natalee was found missing. Dompig reported the incident to van der Statten, and the then police commissioner ignored the search for the protection of Joran. Joran at that time hided the big knife in his dad’s house. van der Statten told Beth that Natalee was dead and he saw the insider information in June. Joran chopped Natalee into two halves in the open sea and stuffed her body parts into the fish cage and weighted it down into the deep with some boating people. The big knifes were dumped into the landfill the following night. Natalee was killed at Sloot’s house. They never went to the lighthouse."

Why not dump the knives where her body was.  Why take them back.

Let's just say this is true did you ever wonder if some of the fishermen helped Joran cut the body.  I don't mean to sound gross but that's what they do all day is cut up fish and they are use to seeing blood.  Is there where the ATM withdrawal comes into play.  Sort of a downpayment and more to come later.

[San]

When Did They Really Decide That There Was NO Body...........

When Paulus Told The Perps No Body No Crime Or .........

When The Government Found The Broken Remains Of Natalee.........

They Decided  NO BODY To Coincide With PVDS's Statement ........

They Decided To Playhouse The Case To Look Like Something Was ...

Happening To Resolve It But All The Time They Were Acting The Parts ..

Knowing What The Outcome Would Be .........

NO BODY NO CRIME .........

Everyone Who Is Anyone On That F**kin Island Is Involved In This ....

I agree Widget.  There are plenty of people who know what happened on that island.

I think you hit the nail on the head when they found Natalee's body they made it coincide with Paulus statement.  Paulus knows this and this is why he was heard saying "good luck with that" in regards to finding Natalee's body.