Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL - DAY 10 - 6/4/11

[KittyMom]

Where did Baez go?

To get a redbull?

[Northern Rose]

Morning recess

Something went down at that sidebar

I agree. Bobo left the court room as soon as the jury was out and was walking fast. Pudgly followed and started jogging as he approached the door to try to catch Bobo.

[cece5300]

Sometimes I can't take it either. We need a little game to play during times like these...something like this  A punch bozo in the head game. What fun huh?

Yes! Every time Bozo says something stupid / bullies a witness / needs more time to get his stuff together, we punch Bozo in the head! We need a Bozo pinata.

[crazybabyborg]

Get ready to be WOWED by Baez's cross

So Baez is going to attempt to muddy FBI forensic investigation.  Good luck Jose.

There is a reason why the defense did not want this witness up there. Baez will be grasping at "hairs" with this witness. Cross did not even last a minute and they are at side bar.

Followed by a recess. That happens a lot. It makes me think that JP needs to go somewhere in a closet and laugh hysterically at Baez so he can get it out for before he faces the rest of the day.

[Brandi]

15-minute mid-morning recess.

[Cappuccino]

What's kc doing under the table looking so sneaky about?

Definitely something

[loca]

worried hmmmm??

[klaasend]

Anyone have TWITTER comments from people in the court?

[west941]

Where did Baez go?

Strutting out the courtroom  with his pimp walk with the other attorney chubby running behind him

[loca]

What's kc doing under the table looking so sneaky about?

Definitely something

she likes to take her shoes off ....

[west941]

15-minute mid-morning recess.

Probably preparing Bozo's cross

[KittyMom]

worried hmmmm??

Wow...that look Mumbles is giving him!

[seemeatthebeach]

Bill Shaffer is saying "this defense team seems to be schizophrenic"........

[CJLove23]

Even if Baez gets in a good point you miss it because he is such an ass

Quote of the day 

[Red]

Bozo went out the court room entrance door

Baez left the court room to go to the Monkey Break room to curse. Another recess called by JP. Baez probably has to go find his lost notes for folders for this witness.

This cross is going to be most interesting to see how the expert combats Baez's antics.

[Magic Eyes]

9:am Sat, June 4, 2011 Court is in session:

Next witness is Karen Lowe, FBI Agent:

Baez is renewing objections based on Frye Hearings, JBP is telling him he is kind of crazy and tells him why, has to do with a mini-Frye hearing, that is what they have Frye Hearings for.  Baez is trying to cite law but I can't understand him and I don't think the judge can either.  Something about a voir dire and a predicate.  JBP will just renew Baez's objections and it will be his previous rulings.  The state must lay a proper foundation.  If there is some problem they will voir dire her. The judge says I will just renew your objections.  Baez wants to voir dire the witness and JBP says well we had that at the Frye Hearing, so the simple answer to that is no.  Unless she testifies to something totally different than at the Frye Hearing about her qualifications at the Frye hearing, we have established that already.  Judge is trying to school Baez but it isn't working, JBP says you can maintain your objections but I have RULED!!!!!  JBP says we have wasted enough time. 

Bringing jury in:

Karen Korsbaeg Lowe is the next witness:

FBI CSI for FBI Quantico, VA

BA in Science, Master's in Science, various courses.  Spent over a year in training with hair and fibers.  She was qualified as an examiner for 13 years.  She has been an expert at trials all over the country, most of her testimony is about microscopic trace evidence, mostly hair.

Baez doing brief voir Dire.

This is the first time you have ever testified on hair banding?  Yes.  Side Bar.......Side Bar over.....
The topics you are going to cover today in your testimony, it was a 6 month course?  Yes.  The courses that you have taken on this topic you are going to testify on today, was it 3?  Yes, the year long training had 3 just on hair.  The rest is on the job training?  Yes.  Sustained no further questions.
End of voir dire, she is an expert on trace evidence and hair.

Jeff Ashton is up..............

How long has trace and hair evidence been around? Late 1800's. Hair from the 1930's.  Hair is done in the steps, Collection, Comparison and Identification.  Hair is not like DNA, one hair can not be said to come from one hair but they can be excluded with different characteristics.  Microscopically hair can be examined to find out race, how they were taken, other characteristics.  Are there signs of decomp related to hair, yes the first papers were in 1988, hairs that showed hair in apparent decomp.  A decomp banding made of air spaces.  Post mortem root band seems to be between soft and hard carotene.  In 1998 there was another case study on this.  Another paper was done on this same thing.  Another paper a two part paper done by Lych, they used 22 samples for decomp, they saw root banding at 2 days, 4 days etc, etc.  Hair under all kinds of weather and circumstances.  These were taken from known decomposed bodies.  One of them was hair taken from live hairs to see if they would get the same banding, they did not.  Does the research show what causes the post mortem decomp banding, no it just shows the banding.  Jeff is going to use a chart with this witness, the witness will step down to the chart.  The chart shows different Human Hair Roots and pictures of them, microscopically. 

Using the chart, Jeff asks her to explain the chart, antigen is active growth stage, the hair cuticle reacts with the internal root sheath.  They are shed before death and show no root banding.  The only hairs that we see with root banding is antigen hair, hairs still growing out of the head.  Decamp hair is tapered and can be hardened and come to a point.  The appearance of decamp can not be replicated by any known process other than decamp.  Shows four examples of apparent decamp root banding.

Witness is taking the stand again.  Done with the chart.  Is it a mathematically precise process, no it is a visual process, although they have found some math related, just not a standard yet.  When your doing an examination of a hair, are you looking at the hair in 2D or 3D.  She is looking at the hair through 3D.  She has hairs in a reference collection to compare hairs to.  They use known hair examples.  Guesstimate of decomp hairs over 2000 cases is a fair number, doesn't even want to guess at the number.  When you have seen decomp banding, where they already known to be of dead people?  Yes.  How frequently have you seen post mortem banding?  Yes.  Were you provided hair in the Caylee Anthony case?  Yes.  Showing her items.  She is shown a sample and recognizes it with her lab markings, shown another and recognizes it, shown another and recognizes it, shown another and recognizes it, shown another and recognizes it, shown another and recognizes it, shown another and recognizes it, shown another and recognizes it.  Where you given certain items from known individuals?  Yes.  Shows her item, she recognizes it, shows her another item, she recognizes it.  Shows another item and she recognizes it, from Cindy Anthony.  Shown another item and she recognizes it, from George Anthony.  Were you also submitted a hair brush as a purported hair brush and comb from Caylee Anthony.  She is shown a purported hair brush from Caylee Anthony and recognizes it.  She is shown a purported comb from Caylee Anthony and recognizes it.  How many hairs did you find from these items.  She is referring to notes.  At least 11 or more hairs.  In any of the hairs did you find any that showed decomp?  Yes, one did, Q-12.  Shows her Q-12, state exhibit 99.  the hair is a Caucasian hair that had a post mortem dark band.  She examined it with a stereo microscope and another microscope in 3d.  It was 9 inches long, light brown.  She compared it to a sample from Casey and Caylee, it did not compare to Casey's but it did compare to a hair from Caylee's hair brush.  She concluded they were similar.  Based upon that examination do you have an opinion that the hair in Q-12 had apparent decomp?  Yes.  Has that ever been found under other circumstances?  No, only decomp has been shown to show that root banding.  She re-mounted the hair and sent it to another lab.  Showing her another exhibit, she is opening with scissors.  She recognizes it as the portion of Q-12 that she sent for Mitro DNA.  Introducing that into evidence.  Why do you use the word apparent decomp?  Because that has not yet been shown to be replicated under any other circumstance so they still use the word apparent to be scientific.

Baez is pleasing the court.......

This goes back to the 1930's in the FBI Labs? People still have hair but the science has changed?  Yes.  What has changed is the FBI's position?  There have numerous trials.  Baez is asking stupid questions, I can't understand they are Sustained.  You have read reports organized by Congress, that is respected, is it not? She doesn't know how to answer.......going to side bar.  I am having a hard time typing for Baez, he is not making sense, so I can't type it by ear, lol. 

Mid morning recess.......

[Brandi]

Anyone have TWITTER comments from people in the court?

Casey Anthony News13

And we are approaching the bench! Baez does not like this science. State doesn't like his questioning. Judge looks irritated.

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey

[NickandNora]

15-minute mid-morning recess.

Great capture!

Right before she did that, she was looking at the laptop reading, and then she slipped down like she was doing something under that desk, looking around as if she was worried someone would see what she's doing.

[ZooMomology]

Bill Shaffer is saying "this defense team seems to be schizophrenic"........

They really should just Concede that their client is guilty and apologize for wasting everybody's time.

[Wyks]

Get ready to be WOWED by Baez's cross