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« on: March 25, 2007, 06:53:18 PM »

Gee, wonder if the British will be starting the Iranian war for us?
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2007, 10:14:36 PM »

Car~ I saw something disturbing on Sixty minutes tonight. According to this allegedly reformed terrorist, the British government had an unspoken agreement with cells that they could obtain funds, recruit jihadists, etc., as long as there was no terrorism in Brittian. Then suicide bombers did their own thing.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2007, 10:23:32 PM »

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Car~ I saw something disturbing on Sixty minutes tonight. According to this allegedly reformed terrorist, the British government had an unspoken agreement with cells that they could obtain funds, recruit jihadists, etc., as long as there was no terrorism in Brittian. Then suicide bombers did their own thing.


Sorry, I'm just not a conspiracy believer.

Any 'nut' can make up a conspiracy.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2007, 10:35:01 PM »

Car,

I was wondering about this, too. Wouldn't it be ironic? Tony Blair is trying not to freak out. Condoleeza says the sailors should be released immediately. I'm sure they are trying to negotiate very carefully so as to avoid a war.

From what I heard on FOX today and yesterday, Britain considers the capture of the sailors an act of war. This is similar to the Israeli soldiers who were captured and led to the war with Lebanon. The soldiers are still being held.

Perhaps Britain will sacrifice these sailors to avoid war. There is a lot to be considered. If they go to war, the US will have to support them and go to war also. That would be a catastrophe.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2007, 10:38:09 PM »

Now a days, it's really hard to define what an 'act of war' is.

Blowing up embassies or destroyers don't seem to be.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2007, 10:47:23 PM »

Car,

Tell me if YOU consider the capture of British sailors an act of war. Thank you.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2007, 10:55:06 PM »

Yes I consider the capturing/kidnapping/taking of the British military personnel an 'act of war'.

Just as I did the actions of Saddam Hussien when his military were firing on U.S. aircraft patrolling the 'no fly' zones over Irag.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2007, 11:03:04 PM »

So what do you think the US and Britain should do?
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2007, 11:05:32 PM »

I think it's time to take off the gloves....it was a complete qact of war IMO... and they meant it to be.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2007, 11:18:52 PM »

Thank you, Italy, for negotiating with terrorists for journalists and releasing those Taliban members.  Thank you, Spain, for capitulating your government to accommodate Islamic extremists.

How's that going along to get along working for all the EU so far?

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Yes, Carnut, all those things are considered "acts of war" and always have been during my lifetime.  

I would hope the U. S. would support Great Britain in however they want to handle this situation.  They along with their Commonwealth are just about the only true allies we have in the world, most of the other countries so wrecked by socialism they don't have the military to even defend themselves let alone support others.

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2007, 11:28:09 PM »

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Car~ I saw something disturbing on Sixty minutes tonight. According to this allegedly reformed terrorist, the British government had an unspoken agreement with cells that they could obtain funds, recruit jihadists, etc., as long as there was no terrorism in Brittian. Then suicide bombers did their own thing.


Sorry, I'm just not a conspiracy believer.

Any 'nut' can make up a conspiracy.


Judge for yourself:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/23/60minutes/main2602308.shtml
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2007, 11:35:49 PM »

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Car~ I saw something disturbing on Sixty minutes tonight. According to this allegedly reformed terrorist, the British government had an unspoken agreement with cells that they could obtain funds, recruit jihadists, etc., as long as there was no terrorism in Brittian. Then suicide bombers did their own thing.


Sorry, I'm just not a conspiracy believer.

Any 'nut' can make up a conspiracy.


Judge for yourself:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/23/60minutes/main2602308.shtml


Read and noted, and I still stand by my previous comments.

Conspiracies are for screenwriters and story tellers.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2007, 08:00:56 AM »

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Car~ I saw something disturbing on Sixty minutes tonight. According to this allegedly reformed terrorist, the British government had an unspoken agreement with cells that they could obtain funds, recruit jihadists, etc., as long as there was no terrorism in Brittian. Then suicide bombers did their own thing.


Sorry, I'm just not a conspiracy believer.

Any 'nut' can make up a conspiracy.


Judge for yourself:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/23/60minutes/main2602308.shtml


Read and noted, and I still stand by my previous comments.

Conspiracies are for screenwriters and story tellers.


Who says it is a conspiracy? It is human nature to minimize what is occurring to another until it directly effects onesself.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2007, 09:50:07 AM »

Well that might also explain why Hillary and so many other Dems are now stating they were lied to regarding intelligence on the war?

The war lasted longer than we thought, was more difficult than many thought it could be, more expensive - it becomes the whipping post and thusly the Dems bail on it to save the coming elections.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2007, 09:55:25 AM »

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Car~ I saw something disturbing on Sixty minutes tonight. According to this allegedly reformed terrorist, the British government had an unspoken agreement with cells that they could obtain funds, recruit jihadists, etc., as long as there was no terrorism in Brittian. Then suicide bombers did their own thing.


Sorry, I'm just not a conspiracy believer.

Any 'nut' can make up a conspiracy.


Judge for yourself:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/23/60minutes/main2602308.shtml


Read and noted, and I still stand by my previous comments.

Conspiracies are for screenwriters and story tellers.


Who says it is a conspiracy? It is human nature to minimize what is occurring to another until it directly effects onesself.


The allegation that 'the powers that be' in Britain had a tacit agreement with the Imams is the 'conspiracy' allegation. I find it preposterous.

The fellow in the interview just seems to be a publicity hound who was spouting the obvious and what pretty much everyone already knows about the 'Islamic Cause' and the 'Global Jihad'.

Seems the fellow fell for the religious koolaid.

Probably would have been much more helpful if he'd kept his identity secret and had become a double agent for his government.
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2007, 08:57:18 PM »

Yes, I agree, Car, that he was talking about his own perception. Whether there be any validity to it, who knows?
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2007, 04:15:35 PM »

Guess there won't be any retaliation on Iran from the west for it's despicable actions.

Looks like Britain caved and Iran won.
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