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Author Topic: Lauren Spierer, 20yrs old, Indiana University student, missing 6/3/11  (Read 154761 times)
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« Reply #160 on: June 10, 2011, 10:05:00 PM »

PV - good observation about the boyfriend and her cell phone



did a bar employee find the phone?
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« Reply #161 on: June 10, 2011, 10:25:44 PM »

It's being said that the boys in the apartment lobby, who got into an altercation with Corey Rossman, were friends of Lauren's boyfriend, Jesse Wolff. Wolff was texting her to find out where she was but she didn't respond. Let's say the friends were posted in the lobby to watch for her, while Jesse drove around to find her. The police should be able to track a cell phone call from the friends in the lobby to Jesse's cell phone right after the friends had located her.

Lauren and friends met Corey Rossman only one week before, at the Indy 500. Maybe he is like Nicole Simpson's Ron Goldman, a simply friendly guy who was drawn into the woman's complicated domestic situation innocently.





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« Reply #162 on: June 10, 2011, 10:50:07 PM »

It's being said that the boys in the apartment lobby, who got into an altercation with Corey Rossman, were friends of Lauren's boyfriend, Jesse Wolff. Wolff was texting her to find out where she was but she didn't respond. Let's say the friends were posted in the lobby to watch for her, while Jesse drove around to find her. The police should be able to track a cell phone call from the friends in the lobby to Jesse's cell phone right after the friends had located her.

Lauren and friends met Corey Rossman only one week before, at the Indy 500. Maybe he is like Nicole Simpson's Ron Goldman, a simply friendly guy who was drawn into the woman's complicated domestic situation innocently.






Thanks for the new information. I agree with your post on the scenario.
This is what I am thinking too. I think we might be looking at a jealous boyfriend here. A possible scenario: Jesse's friends are probably feverishly texting (the boyfriend) because Lauren is with some other guy they don't even know. Meanwhile, Jesse is fuming and the friends say we will kick his rear. They assault Corey, someone intervenes and breaks it up. Lauren escorts Corey back to his apartment. She leaves, and on the way back "Jesse" finds her. I really think we will have an arrest soon, jmo.
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« Reply #163 on: June 10, 2011, 11:14:01 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-06-10-missing-IU-student_n.htm
Police: Still no signs of missing IU student
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Bloomington, Ind., police Friday morning conducted a checkpoint stop of 135 vehicles at an intersection near Spierer's apartment just off campus. Police asked motorists if they had been in the area about the same time last Friday hoping to find new witnesses.

Police also passed out fliers about the case to motorists. So far their efforts haven't yielded any new tips. Police said they may repeat the checkpoint approach but didn't specify when.

The search for Spierer on Thursday focused on southern Indiana lakes as her family announced a $100,000 reward for information leading to her safe return.
Bloomington Police Lt. Bill Parker said divers returned to Lake Monroe for a second day to keep up a search he said was sparked by a tip. A search there Wednesday failed to turn up anything related to the disappearance.

Police are asking local businesses from the suspected area of Spierer's disappearance to share any surveillance video that may be available.
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Before Friday's news conference, Ernie Reno, a spokesman for Smallwood Apartments, where Spierer lived, said he handed 192 pages of key card logs over to police investigators. The logs detail every time a card was used to gain access to any of the building's estimated 12 entrances and two elevators during a 48-hour period, including the 24 hours before Spierer went missing.
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U.S. Marshals are assisting with the search that will continue through the weekend. The FBI also is helping Bloomington police with a tipline in preparation for Saturday's episode of America's Most Wanted, which police hope will result in a spike in tips.
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« Reply #164 on: June 10, 2011, 11:56:04 PM »

Wolff's Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1371840174


I see Mr. Wolff is a fan of Dexter.  Not uncommon, just saying...  Now if she went out and was not answering her cell when Wolff called and his friend ran into her with Rossman and she escorted him home after he got punched and didn't head home til a while later then that could set an unstable/jealous BF off in a nano second!!!  I'll just bet the BF was riding around looking for her.  Will wait to see.
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« Reply #165 on: June 11, 2011, 12:30:04 AM »

How do we know he was still her boyfriend and they were not broken up or breaking up? Perhaps they were on the skids, she was talking with Corey and he was jealous. Crime of passion, the oldest of all. The way his hands were on her, he owned her....That pic I think tells a story. I wish there were others of them together.
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« Reply #166 on: June 11, 2011, 12:30:06 AM »

A four-page article; very informative. (clip pages at the bottome to get to pages 2-4)

http://www.lohud.com/article/20110610/NEWS02/106100374/Police-obtain-DNA-from-Lauren-Spierer-s-companion-his-roommate?odyssey=nav%7Chead

Police obtain DNA from Lauren Spierer's companion and his roommate
Jun 10, 2011 
Written by
Shawn Cohen and Jonathan Bandler

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. Police investigating the disappearance of Lauren Spierer were given DNA samples Friday afternoon from Corey Rossman, the Indiana University student Spierer was with the morning she went missing, and his roommate, Mike Beth.

The two gave the samples at the police station.

Upon exiting with his lawyer, Rossman told reporters, "I was not the last person with her. That's all I can say. Sorry. I hope they find her as soon as possible. I am praying for her and her family."

Asked whether he had anything to do with her disappearance, Rossman said, "Absolutely not."
Ronald Chapman, a lawyer for Beth, said his client was re-interviewed by police Friday.

"There was no reason for him not to," said Chapman, who described it as a "wrap-up" interview and suggested police would have no further interest in talking to his client. He would not elaborate. He declined to comment on details of the investigation or reveal what his client said about Spierer's visit to the apartment.

The search for Spierer, 20, of Greenburgh, has drawn hundreds of volunteers, including her parents and sister and several of her classmates from Edgemont High School, where she graduated in 2009.

She was last seen on video with Rossman shortly after 3 a.m. June 3 after they left her apartment building. Jay Rosenbaum, a friend of Rossman's who lives in his building at 11th Street and North Morton Avenue less than half a mile from where Spierer lives, told police that he saw Spierer leave his building between 4:15 and 4:30 a.m. and turn the corner onto North College Avenue.

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Why have Rossman, Beth and Rosenbaum all retained lawyers if they are innocent?

So far, it seems that they are the last people to have seen Lauren before she disappeared.  Who has told the truth to the police?
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« Reply #167 on: June 11, 2011, 12:33:25 AM »

Wolff's Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1371840174


I see Mr. Wolff is a fan of Dexter.  Not uncommon, just saying...  Now if she went out and was not answering her cell when Wolff called and his friend ran into her with Rossman and she escorted him home after he got punched and didn't head home til a while later then that could set an unstable/jealous BF off in a nano second!!!  I'll just bet the BF was riding around looking for her.  Will wait to see.

FWIW, Mr. Wolff's friend count is going up. Yesterday he had 1043 friends. Then he added Lauren Spierer Missing. Now he has 1049. Becoming a minor celebrity? Enjoying the media attention? So much like other psychopaths, OJ and JVDS to name just two. A decent boyfriend would have shut this page down days ago.



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« Reply #168 on: June 11, 2011, 12:36:49 AM »

It seems a few of us are on the same page? So if we are correct... A crime of passion committed at the hands of the jealous boyfriend. So if this is the case, he "loved" her, possessed her, she was his. so what does someone do in that case? Does he stash her? If so, where? Does he do the unthinkable? If so, where would he place her?
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« Reply #169 on: June 11, 2011, 12:41:57 AM »

Wolff's Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1371840174


I see Mr. Wolff is a fan of Dexter.  Not uncommon, just saying...  Now if she went out and was not answering her cell when Wolff called and his friend ran into her with Rossman and she escorted him home after he got punched and didn't head home til a while later then that could set an unstable/jealous BF off in a nano second!!!  I'll just bet the BF was riding around looking for her.  Will wait to see.

FWIW, Mr. Wolff's friend count is going up. Yesterday he had 1043 friends. Then he added Lauren Spierer Missing. Now he has 1049. Becoming a minor celebrity? Enjoying the media attention? So much like other psychopaths, OJ and JVDS to name just two. A decent boyfriend would have shut this page down days ago.





He does have a lot of facebook friends, I noticed that too. I find it odd he has that pic of him and Lauren rather then the missing poster or something which would say she is missing.
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« Reply #170 on: June 11, 2011, 12:42:08 AM »

It seems a few of us are on the same page? So if we are correct... A crime of passion committed at the hands of the jealous boyfriend. So if this is the case, he "loved" her, possessed her, she was his. so what does someone do in that case? Does he stash her? If so, where? Does he do the unthinkable? If so, where would he place her?

Police are searching a particular lake and, I think, a quarry. The area south of Bloomington is very hilly, rustic, picturesque, very much like New England. Quarries are common because the area is known for its limestone.
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« Reply #171 on: June 11, 2011, 12:45:18 AM »

I hope they are checking places which have been "special" to them as a couple. Maybe a place they spent some time together? I bet if he placed her some place it is not far from him. Of course if he did this and given so little is known at this time, I have no idea if he is involved or not.
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« Reply #172 on: June 11, 2011, 12:52:51 AM »

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/28200651/detail.html

Men Among Last To See Spierer Asked To Give DNA
'Persons Of Interest' In Missing Student Case Comply With Police Request

POSTED: 4:51 pm EDT June 10, 2011
UPDATED: 10:10 pm EDT June 10, 2011

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- At least two of the last people to see missing Indiana University student Lauren Spierer has provided a DNA sample to police.

Corey Rossman, who was seen on surveillance video walking with Spierer, 20, to his apartment last Friday morning, was asked by police to provide DNA, which he did voluntarily, said his attorney, former Monroe County Prosecutor Carl Salzmann.

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"We continue to cooperate with police, giving them any information that they are wanting, and we will continue to do so," Salzmann said.

Spierer's boyfriend, Jesse Wolff, along with Rossman's roommate, Mike Beth, and Rossman's neighbor, Jay Rosenbaum, were also among those asked to provide DNA. Beth had complied with that request, 6News' Chance Walser reported. All four men have retained attorneys.

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« Reply #173 on: June 11, 2011, 12:57:23 AM »

I actually think it is a good idea they have attorneys, I would have had retained one for my son if he was in this spot. I also think it says a lot they are cooperating with requests made by investigators. jmo
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« Reply #174 on: June 11, 2011, 01:29:24 AM »

I actually think it is a good idea they have attorneys, I would have had retained one for my son if he was in this spot. I also think it says a lot they are cooperating with requests made by investigators. jmo

Agree.  Lauren was seen that night by her boyfried at the time of a confrontation; she went to Corey's apartment and his roommate, Mike, was there; and she supposedly went to Jay's apartment and he saw her leave the building.  jmo
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« Reply #175 on: June 11, 2011, 03:25:33 AM »

grace-land  Thank you for the info, I had looked at the maps but missed the proximity.  I have to agree with  Red that the story is fishy, especially now that her dad has said he didn't see any video of an altercation. 

Tracygirl Great question about who found the phone, if the finder wasn't a bar employee then the fishy factor increases greatly, IMO.

The overly possessive pose of that facebook photo is worrisome.  They don't look like they belong together, it seems so posed or forced.

IMO Corey giving his DNA is important and should help focus the investigation where it should be, on the BF and/or his friends.

Bloomington sounds like just about every other college town, to blame the bars is a copout and a distraction. Fake IDs are almost a rite of passage, doesn't necessarily make it right, but it does make it "normal". 

Why do the authorities these days think that withholding information from the public is the way to go?  Are they hiding evidence and protecting perpetrators?  Or is it an effort to maintain job security...being able to take credit?  Returning Lauren to her family is all that matters, how that happens is inconsequential. 
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« Reply #176 on: June 11, 2011, 08:47:54 AM »

grace-land  Thank you for the info, I had looked at the maps but missed the proximity.  I have to agree with  Red that the story is fishy, especially now that her dad has said he didn't see any video of an altercation. 

Tracygirl Great question about who found the phone, if the finder wasn't a bar employee then the fishy factor increases greatly, IMO.

The overly possessive pose of that facebook photo is worrisome.  They don't look like they belong together, it seems so posed or forced.

IMO Corey giving his DNA is important and should help focus the investigation where it should be, on the BF and/or his friends.

Bloomington sounds like just about every other college town, to blame the bars is a copout and a distraction. Fake IDs are almost a rite of passage, doesn't necessarily make it right, but it does make it "normal". 

Why do the authorities these days think that withholding information from the public is the way to go?  Are they hiding evidence and protecting perpetrators?  Or is it an effort to maintain job security...being able to take credit?  Returning Lauren to her family is all that matters, how that happens is inconsequential. 


Great post and I am glad they are willing to give DNA samples but they do no good w/o a body.  I do hope they find her soon!!!  I would search where  Tracygirl suggested but if BF (or ex-bf) did it and him being a fan of Dexter then who knows.  Seems like LE is going about things the right way even thought we don't really know much from them.  I don't think it's a take credit issue or hiding.  If you have a good LE crew they know just how quick people lawyer up and don't want anyone to know which way they are going due to them wanting all the cooperation they can get openly.  We all know just how quick a lawyer can cement their clients mouth!  T. Horman, C. Anthony and the list goes on!
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« Reply #177 on: June 11, 2011, 08:55:40 AM »

http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=78395

This article from amw.com doesn't mention CR in an altercation at all?
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« Reply #178 on: June 11, 2011, 09:21:54 AM »

I actually think it is a good idea they have attorneys, I would have had retained one for my son if he was in this spot. I also think it says a lot they are cooperating with requests made by investigators. jmo

Agree.  Lauren was seen that night by her boyfried at the time of a confrontation; she went to Corey's apartment and his roommate, Mike, was there; and she supposedly went to Jay's apartment and he saw her leave the building.  jmo


Let me clarify.  Her boyfriend is Jesse.  Her friends and Corey had a confrontation that night.  jmo
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« Reply #179 on: June 11, 2011, 09:37:44 AM »

With video

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-lauren-spierer-person-of-interest-denies-being-last-to-see-student-prior-to-disappearance-20110610,0,5738054.story

Person of interest denies being last to see student prior to disappearance
The young man believed to be the last person to have seen Lauren Spierer prior to her disappearance denied that allegation moments after giving Bloomington police a DNA sample Friday.

By Edward Moody
 
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9:47 p.m. EDT, June 10, 2011

Bloomington, Ind.
The young man believed to be the last person to have seen Lauren Spierer prior to her disappearance denied that allegation moments after giving Bloomington police a DNA sample Friday.

"I was not the last person with her. That's all I can say," Rossman said.

Investigators said Rossman was with Spierer until they got to his apartment building at 11th and Morton.  One of their friends told police he watched Lauren leave the building on foot and make it to 11th and College Avenue.  It's the last place anyone says they saw Lauren but police cast doubt on that story.

"The last place that we can be totally confident she was is further south. Again, we're just going on various statements to place her at the more northern part," Lt. Bill Parker said.

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