Lively Case Discussion #597 4/7 - 4/9/2007

[sb]

Just as an aside... have we seen a picture of any of the Aruban women where they look geniunely attractive? EVER?

I don't even see anything in Arlene.

It's the old "face-is-the-expression-of-the-soul" effect.

[Anna]

Anna - do you remember if that Natalee dancing on the bar photo was ever shown on the MSM news?

I am trying to remember, Klaas.  I will email Tyler and ask her as well as sometimes she remembers what I forget and vice versa.  She can ask her DH as well as I noticed he was online and posting that night as well.  Also Wreck was.  

I tend to think that it was on TV but can't recall a particular host/hostess.  Anyone remember who interviewed Dan?  When he burped?  Maybe that is what he was talking about.

But will post or email if I can pin down anything about which I am certain.  Hard to go that far back now.

How about Janet?  She remembers so well.  She might recall.

Also Buckeye has good memory.

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[klaasend]

Also this picture that's been enhanced:

[klaasend]

Klaas just found this pic in my stash. Look next to the guy at the bar. It looks like the gal standing next to him is blonde & has on a black n white dress.
Am I seeing things?

I see what you are saying but that photo you've posted has been messed with too much, IMO.  I think the one I just posted is clearer and shows the colors correctly, IMO.

Edited to add:  What you are seeing that looks black and white is actually a bottle of beer.

[Anna]

I think the girl in the immediate foreground IS Lee Broughton, the outfit is the exact same and it is even more intricate than Natalee's.

HOWEVER... the hair is all wrong. In the pic with "Natalee" the hair is piled up at the top of the head entirely differently than in other pictures of Lee. In fact, it looks like a beehive cut on top. That is a Photoshop effect for sure, someone increased the fullness of her hair on top to cover the rough edges of the "Natalee" image spliced in just above it.

Otherwise, "Natalee's" arm wouldn't have been long enough to disappear behind the hair.  

SB,
You are correct that the hair is all wrong for Lee.  See her hair on the beach then we have this frizzy mess in the C&C photo.  Filled by shopping probably.

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[yapperz1]

Klaas it could be the beer bottle that looks like a dress  
But still can see blonde hair & Lee's isn't that color

[Anna]

Klaas just found this pic in my stash. Look next to the guy at the bar. It looks like the gal standing next to him is blonde & has on a black n white dress.
Am I seeing things?

I see what you are saying but that photo you've posted has been messed with too much, IMO.  I think the one I just posted is clearer and shows the colors correctly, IMO.

Look again, Klaas.  You can see this blond hair sticking out behind Lee's in that other photo.

I am beginning to think Lee may have been inserted as well.  Where is CBB?  The two of you and carpe need to check out the possibility that Lee is also inserted OVER this other person.

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[klaasend]

Klaas it could be the beer bottle that looks like a dress  
But still can see blonde hair & Lee's isn't that color

The small photo you posted and the large one I just posted has been over highlighted and contract.  The guys shirt looks white when it's actually plaid.  I would not go by the color of Lee's hair in that photo.

[sb]

If you have an image-editing program like Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, increase the gamma level to about 1.35. You will see that the entire area below the arm, in the region of the hair profile and the background with what appears to be bottles, ALL of that, has a messy pixellation pattern and shows much evidence of having been altered. The original is dark and you can't see the effect.

[klaasend]

Anna and Yapperz - I do see what you are seeing with the blonde hair and it's entirely possible that Lee has also been photoshopped into that picture.  There are definately areas around Lee's head that look like it.

[klaasend]

If you have an image-editing program like Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, increase the gamma level to about 1.35. You will see that the entire area below the arm, in the region of the hair profile and the background with what appears to be bottles, ALL of that, has a messy pixellation pattern and shows much evidence of having been altered. The original is dark and you can't see the effect.

Yes SB - that's what I've been trying to say

To me the bottles under the sign actually appear to be upside down too.

[IBE]

Lee's skirt... I tend to differ... her elbow comes to almost 1/2 down in the photo at the beach and there's enough fabric under the elbow to have the same top and the same skirt... the skirt would be much lower under the table.

[klaasend]

Lee's skirt... I tend to differ... her elbow comes to almost 1/2 down in the photo at the beach and there's enough fabric under the elbow to have the same top and the same skirt... the skirt would be much lower under the table.

Good point but now that you mention it, doesn't her arm from her shoulder to her elbow look awefully long in the bar photo, Lee's?

[klaasend]

[LilPuma]

Evening, Monkeys.  Just stopped in to see if FOB or RU imploded yet or if Joran or anyone had confessed yet.    As for the picture, I have to wonder why this pic would be photoshopped?  What was it supposed to show?  It's not in any way incriminating.  

Oh, and Happy Easter!

[Elaine]

Absolutely, oh my gosh, this picture is something!

[Anna]

Lee's skirt... I tend to differ... her elbow comes to almost 1/2 down in the photo at the beach and there's enough fabric under the elbow to have the same top and the same skirt... the skirt would be much lower under the table.

Good point but now that you mention it, doesn't her arm from her shoulder to her elbow look awefully long in the bar photo, Lee's?

To be across a table and behind a beer bottle, yes they do.  They should be smaller like the little head because of the distance.

That is why I am not wondering if she was inserted as well.

Totally fabricated photo!  

Likely not even made on the night in question and the same could well apply to the others as well.  Without Natalee being there, could have been made at any time using any people as substitutes.

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[IBE]

Gads, I can't find the link to the pict you had that shows it!

Off hand (no pun vs elbow) she is taller and would have a long fore arm.. but I need to see the org. pict again.

OK... my year's supply of Girl Scout cookies (to be frozen for all year) is almost gone!

I still remember a pict early on that didn't show Natalee! It showed the guy in the plaid looking to the right and what I thought was a cig in his hand, but again I never could see Natalee in the pict I saw until the one shown today.

Where is the first one? we first saw???

[klaasend]

Evening, Monkeys.  Just stopped in to see if FOB or RU imploded yet or if Joran or anyone had confessed yet.    As for the picture, I have to wonder why this pic would be photoshopped?  What was it supposed to show?  It's not in any way incriminating.  

Oh, and Happy Easter!

In the beginning the picture was to prove Natalee was wild and was dancing on the bar at CnC.

[Elaine]

Evening, Monkeys.  Just stopped in to see if FOB or RU imploded yet or if Joran or anyone had confessed yet.    As for the picture, I have to wonder why this pic would be photoshopped?  What was it supposed to show?  It's not in any way incriminating.  

Oh, and Happy Easter!

Same to you!...Someone messed with this picture to try and assasinate Natalee's character..