Lively Case Discussion #597 4/7 - 4/9/2007

[LilPuma]

Lee's skirt... I tend to differ... her elbow comes to almost 1/2 down in the photo at the beach and there's enough fabric under the elbow to have the same top and the same skirt... the skirt would be much lower under the table.

Good point but now that you mention it, doesn't her arm from her shoulder to her elbow look awefully long in the bar photo, Lee's?

Yes

[sb]

I am about to go out to eat with family but I want to say that Lee is right on top of that camera and so she looks proportionately larger. She is a statuesque girl and she should be expected to have longer arms.

The whole area at the top of her head looks like it has been filled out with some kind of reddish-brown, unnatural coloring. It has changed the profile of her head and hair markedly.

Y'all take it from here for a while- BBL!

[Elaine]

I am about to go out to eat with family but I want to say that Lee is right on top of that camera and so she looks proportionately larger. She is a statuesque girl and she should be expected to have longer arms.

The whole area at the top of her head looks like it has been filled out with some kind of reddish-brown, unnatural coloring. It has changed the profile of her head and hair markedly.

Y'all take it from here for a while- BBL!

Happy Easter to you SB!

[LilPuma]

Evening, Monkeys.  Just stopped in to see if FOB or RU imploded yet or if Joran or anyone had confessed yet.    As for the picture, I have to wonder why this pic would be photoshopped?  What was it supposed to show?  It's not in any way incriminating.  

Oh, and Happy Easter!

Same to you!...Someone messed with this picture to try and assasinate Natalee's character..

I watched about an hour of a 2-hour special tonight on Spring Break Nightmares on E!  Even the stories about the wild and crazy times the MB kids supposedly had are like Sunday morning in church compared to what was on this special report.  

[2NJSons_Mom]

I was just catching up on a couple of pages and have to say that I was thinking the same as IBE(socks ), and was earlier thinking the same...the table was blocking the skirt...BUT, when you mention the length of the arm...then, I had to rethink.  Lee's arm does look out of proportion, now that I look at the picture.  Good grief.  Someone had posted that the shirt was different, but maybe photoshopping made it appear so...

Sorry, I'm in and out of here...have to share the computer...

[BTgirl]

Hi Monkeys,

Shouldn't Lee's elbow be more even with her waist? That pic looks more like it's nearer her hips. Or is it only dwarf arms like mine that have the elbow/waist proportion?  

[justinsmama]

I want flowers in my potty, 2NJ!

What is so hilarious about the attempts to assasinate Natalee's character is what Renfro had reportedly done for a living in the US. If true, then there would be plenty of film footage.  

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hi Monkeys,

Shouldn't Lee's elbow be more even with her waist? That pic looks more like it's nearer her hips. Or is it only dwarf arms like mine that have the elbow/waist proportion?  

I'm 5'9"...maybe shrinking at this point, but I don't think body size has much to do with it....my elbow meets my waist, as you've posted.  That's what made me look at the picture more closely.

[IBE]

Well, if she was sort of leaning to the right with the right shoulder down toward the table, would this make the length of the shoulder to elbow look longer?

I still think it's funny that I thought the left hand of the man in the plaid shirt was holding an unlit cig when I first saw it and now it turns out to maybe be a picture of Joran with a bottle. Did he leave his signature when it was photoshoped? or does someone have a sick sense of humor as "of putting the drink into Natalee's rest of the arm/hand that is not showing?"

The shorter picture that was posted with the man in the green t=shirt??? Do you have a larger one of that so I can see?

TIA

I've got to find a place that's safe to eat Easter dinner tomorrow.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Justinsmama, I'd take flowers in a lot of things these days...

[BTgirl]

Klaas,

Would you please post the photo on the beach just one more time? Thanks.

[2NJSons_Mom]

IBE, we're getting Outback takeout....not especially thrilled, but my MIL is calling the shots...she got hurt last weekend and this is what she wants to do and we're obliging.  Hope you find someplace that's clean, safe and yummy.

[klaasend]

Klaas,

Would you please post the photo on the beach just one more time? Thanks.

[2NJSons_Mom]

sb is probably right...if that's Lee, she's so close to the camera that it may distort the proportions...I just don't know for sure after looking at all photos again.

[BTgirl]

Thanks, Klaas. Is there any way to do a sort of side-by-side comparison of the bar photo and the beach photo? I know Lee's arm is bent in the beach photo, but I'm trying to see where her elbow might end up in relation to the bottom pattern on the shirt.

[IBE]

Well, to my eyes all the elbows come to what we used to call the waist... the real waist line

OK my own arms are longer in proportion to my height but this comes at the elbow to wrist area being about an inch longer so all the sweaters I used to buy would be a tad short at the wrist. Hope I make some sense.

Am calling the American Legion Post nearby... I know who cooks there! Will see if they are serving. Am hungry already.

Used to made Hot Cross buns as a tradition. Anyone remember those??? Not to be confused with White Castle little thingies

[2NJSons_Mom]

Well, to my eyes all the elbows come to what we used to call the waist... the real waist line

OK my own arms are longer in proportion to my height but this comes at the elbow to wrist area being about an inch longer so all the sweaters I used to buy would be a tad short at the wrist. Hope I make some sense.

Am calling the American Legion Post nearby... I know who cooks there! Will see if they are serving. Am hungry already.

Used to made Hot Cross buns as a tradition. Anyone remember those??? Not to be confused with White Castle little thingies

Good...hope the Legion is serving....Hot Cross buns are a bit Easter thing...I never liked that citron fruity stuff...also found in the dreaded fruit cakes for Christmas....My Mom made them, though....and other easter breads including and Italian one that was like a basket with colored eggs intertwined in the handle.  I'd rather have pizza gaine(sp?).

[Mere]

Good night folks.....Happy Easter......

Hope someone finds what I think is the original photo....which includes
more of Natalee ....it is one of the early photos which crashed with my computer last summer....I think IBE saw the same one.....

[klaasend]

Very difficult to compare.  I don't know if it's the camera angle or if she was photoshopped in, her body was stretched/skewed:

[bleachedblack]

Hiya Monkeys,back .....

sb I have to agree with the camera angle being the cause of what appears to be the lengthening of Lee's upper arms.

IBE I saw Martha Stewart  make Hot Cross Buns a couple of mornings ago on her show ....that's as close as I have ever gotten to them.