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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2007, 04:04:32 PM »

Klass,you have mail and pictures.Plummer was not the chaperone at CnC's that night.he was at the casino.You might want to fuzz the law firm name out.No laws were broken to take the pictures.Cat
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« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2007, 04:10:03 PM »

http://websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-26378.html



michelegumm -at- yahoo.com


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« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2007, 04:14:29 PM »

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I have read this post. Without word by word comparison I see no difference between it, your post and text on IH's site.

Not only does this text not prove that Michelle Gumm is bogus, it is obvious that she is more real than IH, you or me, for that matter. I had no difficulty to locate her data:
Name:Michele Gumm (http://www.annrules.com/http/)
Email:michelegumm@yahoo.com (michelegumm@yahoo.com)
IP Address: 68.61.106.195
Location: Lenox Twp, Mi. USA


GeO, I had no doubt she was a person. But the veracity of her story is the problem. You see her first post was Author: Michele Gumm (---.newhav01.mi.comcast.net) Date: 05-29-05 20:18 "Ok I just got back from the glorious Island just 15 minutes ago"

Did you notice that she returned 5/29/05 before Natalee went missing? So how is she an eye witness to the incidents at Carlos and Charlies in Aruba on May 30th?


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« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2007, 04:20:33 PM »

A HAPPY EASTER AND PASSOVER TO THE MONKEYS.
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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2007, 04:20:35 PM »

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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject:

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Quote from riehlworldview.com: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan, why did you delete the other posts from yesterday proving that Michelle GUmm lied about being in C&C the night Natalee disapeared? Her post on aruba.com is date and time stamped and proves she was not even in Aruba then. Her subsequent posts (aside from the one you have on your front page) show her interest in being famous. Why do people lie on message boards? Who knows, but Dan, you still have her post on your front page AFTER you've been shown that she is bogus. WHY? (Note how she works in the exchange student story?) PLEASE NOTE THE DATE AND TIME STAMP OF HER FIRST POST! Again her are a few of her posts. Some are from Aruba.com.

Author: Michele Gumm (---.newhav01.mi.comcast.net) Date: 05-29-05 20:18 Ok I just got back from the glorious Island just 15 minutes ago and feel compelled to write this.I loved your Island and will be back next year. My problem is I posted a truthfull post on Amsterdam Manor's web site and they did not post it. I will post it here and hopefully people who are making reservations will be told the truth about the place.I loved the hotel. The service was great and the staff was friendly. The mini mart was not open all the time it was supposed to be but ok, I did not need cigarettes anyway. The airconditioner worked marginally at best and always seemed to shut off in the middle of the night. Clean rooms and the maid service was great!The food was good small portions for what I thought was alot of money. Filo the bartender was subperb. Very nice to talk to and tells you all about the island.Will look him up when we come back.Managers should give him a raise, he is an asset.My problem is the smell of POOP!!!They back up to the sewer dump spot at the back of the hotel and when that breeze kids in...

WHOA! Re: Missing Girl
Author: Michele Gumm (---.newhav01.mi.comcast.net) Date: 06-03-05 13:13 There was kinda of a shady guy that gave me the creeps that was staying at the Amsterdam manor when we were there last week. He claimed to be a foreign exchange student but kinda looked to old to be a student.. Maybe they could check it out.

Author: Michele Gumm (---.newhav01.mi.comcast.net) Date: 06-06-05 19:08
I find this so distressing!My husband and I were on a snorkel tour with this young lady and her friends and we have pictures of them. I just don't understand why it was our destiny to have met her only briefly, and to laugh and enjoy the sun and ocean and the beautiful day...then to have this happen.Why did god put her into our lives only for a fleeting moment?Why were the stars of destiny lined up that way that particular day? I am praying for her safe return and for the entire family. I have had Fox news on for a week straight with all the updates. I wish I could be there to help and God Bless all the fine Aruban people who are helping.This will not keep us fromvisiting your Island...And please remember....Evil moves fast but good moves faster.

Author: Michele Gumm (---.newhav01.mi.comcast.net) Date: 06-07-05 21:04
I was contacted tonight by MSNBC to share my experience with the world about the day I spent with those teenagers on the boat trip.I do not feel right about talking about it with the world until after I have spoke directly with her family.I spoke with another lady from a tv station in Birmingham, Alabama too.I just can't in good, moral standing comment on what I saw that day, or comment on the way those kids acted. We are all not naive , we were all kids once.When Natalee's family returns home with her, I will send them the photos I have and they can do with them as they see fit. I just don't feel that I should capitalize on this tragedy.I kinda got the feeling that there would've been a spin put on it like it was "Girls Gone Wild".Am I wrong?

---------------- Very interesting post from Riehlworldview.com. Apparently one of the sources used for "context" in the first of his latest series of reports is a blatant liar looking for publicity. This guy brought it to Dan's attention, but Dan deleted his posts and the quote remains on the website.

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« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2007, 04:21:11 PM »

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A HAPPY EASTER AND PASSOVER TO THE MONKEYS.
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...and to you as well, kat gram! Wink
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"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2007, 04:21:27 PM »

Goof Afternoon Peoples  Very Happy

 I'm catching up .. <what else is knew  Rolling Eyes >

Carpe I had to crack up on this one.. Is it just me? Or does Rudy Croes bear a striking resemblence to poor Able Lincoln? Everyime I see a photo of him.. I think OMG  ABE!  Shocked  Shocked


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« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2007, 04:22:26 PM »

This Michele appears to be working a propaganda generator.
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« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2007, 04:24:10 PM »

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Goof Afternoon Peoples  Very Happy

 I'm catching up .. <what else is knew  Rolling Eyes >

Carpe I had to crack up on this one.. Is it just me? Or does Rudy Croes bear a striking resemblence to poor Able Lincoln? Everyime I see a photo of him.. I think OMG  ABE!  Shocked  Shocked


http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/?action=view&current=rudylikeitrough.png



yes like Abe Lincoln and his Lucky Charms. Laughing
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« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2007, 04:25:22 PM »

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Goof Afternoon Peoples  Very Happy

 I'm catching up .. <what else is knew  Rolling Eyes >

Carpe I had to crack up on this one.. Is it just me? Or does Rudy Croes bear a striking resemblence to poor Able Lincoln? Everyime I see a photo of him.. I think OMG  ABE!  Shocked  Shocked


http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/?action=view&current=rudylikeitrough.png



yes like Abe Lincoln and his Lucky Charms. Laughing



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« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2007, 04:28:30 PM »

There was a very big push to demonize these kids, on multiple levels.

I hope every last one of  them gets ferreted out and hunted down.

these people make me sick!
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« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2007, 04:33:40 PM »

Unbelieveable klaas!!!!

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This is a post from another website. Aruba.com Very interesting.
Author: Michele Gumm (---.newhav01.mi.comcast.net)
Date: 06-03-05 13:01
My husband and I were in Aruba last week and spent time with the girls on The DePalm tours snorkel/booze cruise. We saw Natalie later that night at Carlos and Charlies and we commented that she was up to partyubg that night because of the exhaustive day we had on the boat. When we saw her leave she left by herself. No one was with her but we did notice some local guys talking to her while she was in there. I do not know if this will help but my heart goes out to the family and I can not believe this has happened.I live 4000 miles away outside of Detroit, Michigan and I feel like it happened to somone I know having spent tome with them on the boat. I even have pictures of them.I will pray for her and her family. Sincerly John and Michele Gumm
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"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2007, 04:35:16 PM »

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Unbelieveable klaas!!!!

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This is a post from another website. Aruba.com Very interesting.
Author: Michele Gumm (---.newhav01.mi.comcast.net)
Date: 06-03-05 13:01
My husband and I were in Aruba last week and spent time with the girls on The DePalm tours snorkel/booze cruise. We saw Natalie later that night at Carlos and Charlies and we commented that she was up to partyubg that night because of the exhaustive day we had on the boat. When we saw her leave she left by herself. No one was with her but we did notice some local guys talking to her while she was in there. I do not know if this will help but my heart goes out to the family and I can not believe this has happened.I live 4000 miles away outside of Detroit, Michigan and I feel like it happened to somone I know having spent tome with them on the boat. I even have pictures of them.I will pray for her and her family. Sincerly John and Michele Gumm


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« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2007, 04:38:02 PM »

Hey Monkeys, been outa town for a week without my laptop. Looks like there's lots to catch-up on!  Very Happy  Hope all is well with all you sweet Monkeys!
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« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2007, 04:39:26 PM »

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Hey Monkeys, been outa town for a week without my laptop. Looks like there's lots to catch-up on!  Very Happy  Hope all is well with all you sweet Monkeys!


 Howdy BB~!!  Dunno if you were working or on vacation? Hope you had a nice time and Happy Easter to yah Gilda monkey!   Wink
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« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2007, 04:40:46 PM »

Klaas..
  Is that second photo some type of parking area?  
(the pic with the pillars? )
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« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2007, 04:42:09 PM »

Peeky Boo  .. I see you Snoop Dawgy Dawg   Laughing  Laughing
(unless you are catching up too.. lol)
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« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2007, 04:42:13 PM »

hey klaas,

look up m. gumm on this next page.

http://tinyurl.com/35s9jk

407 area code ain't Detroit last time I checked. When I looked

last 407 is outta Orlando.


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« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2007, 04:42:41 PM »

hiya BB! Wink
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« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2007, 04:45:58 PM »

this is listed as ITS employment

title of 'public involvement'


http://www.ch2m.com/corporate/
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"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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