Lively Case Discussion #597 4/7 - 4/9/2007

[bleachedblack]

Was Lee in the casino?  If so, what was she wearing there?  Had she changed from the beach?

It seems Natalee was wearing what she had on in the beach photo later in the night, as the blue/green blouse and denim skirt are what was described in the Missing Person posters. It would seem to make sense that Lee could also have been wearing the same clothes early and then later in the bar photo. But you are right Anna we were trusting in the early days. Even at this time I don't see any real purpose in anyone photoshopping the bar photo. We know the teens spent time in varius bars....so what would the purpose be?

In the student quotes it does seem odd,presuming that the pics are authentic and Lee was in the bar with Natalee that there are no interview statements I can find given by Lee. Does anyone know of any?

http://scrux.com/natalee/studentquotes.htm

[bleachedblack]

[quote="bleachedblack]

In the beach pic Lee has on a light denim color skirt Yap.

Sorry I have a pic where her skirt looks white. No Matter we all know she had on a topn n skirt not a dress.   [/quote]

You're right it does look very light, but I still think it's denim. I swear I have to go back and back again to look. Remember the picture where Joran is dancing on the bar at C+C's in front of the monkey poster/board? In that pic I always thought he was wearing boots, like work boots, like Doc Martens. I was later shown a pic- I think it was shown to me by Debbie at BFN-in which he clearly has on sneakers, which are very dirty . So much for casual obvservation. That's why I wish Dutchlady were still here, she was definately not a casual *******, she didn't miss a thing.  

[bleachedblack]

Sorry for being such a board hog, but one last thing. I was catching up on a few postings at BFN from this past week that I was gone and found this one kinda interesting. It was posted by Happy1938 .

4/1 Back when I was investigating the sex trafficing angle
regarding the Natalee case, it was obvious to anyone that Aruba, Curacao, Venezuela, Columbia, and Mexico are destination points and transfer points for flesh peddlers.
Also, these same flesh peddlers, have set up elaborate adult entertainment vacation spas, in Bonaire, Santo Domingo, Puerto Rico, and other locations where tourists flock in with ready cash to spend.

My cousin has related any number of times his trip to Mexico City with another cousin to pick up some anti-cancer drugs from England that could not be imported directly into the states. While there the poverty level was astonishing to them. One nite, they asked a cabbie to take them to a nightclub they had heard about. When they
arrived they were frisked for weapons by security guards
outside the door entrance. Inside, there were naked women
dancing on a stage and on the bars. When they ordered mixed
drinks, they were served by totally nude women, no g-string
or nothing. Shortly, two pretty young women came over and sat in their laps and asked them all sorts of questions,who
they were, why were they in Mexico City, where were they staying etc. kinda like an informal interrogation, to see if they were drug agents casing out the place. My cousin said that during this time, he noticed in the dark corners two men holding submachine guns over their shoulders on slings watching them. After a couple of hours there, they decided to go back to their room and asked for their bill.
Shocked was an understatement, when a bill for $300 was placed in a small tray at their table and a male waiter came over and asked, do you find any of these girls to your
liking. My cousins were both divorced and said yes, surely, whereupon he said that will be another $300 for one night with you at your hotel room by taxicab. One cousin backed out, staring at those machine guns and very
tough looking hombres in the corners of the club still.He asked the pretty young girl on his lap, do you want to come to the US with me, just joking of course, and she nearly burst into tears and said yes, senior, when do we leave, I can be ready in a hour or so. He said awe darling I was just kidding, I am old enough to be your father. She replied I have a father, but you could be my husband forever and ever, I would love and be faithful to you forever, but I must leave here someday or die.Such desperation for money was depressing to them. On one tour trip to an architectural site, while waiting for the drug
shipment to clear Mexican customs, they paid the tour guide a young woman $30 as a tip, as she had been with them almost all day touring sites. She burst into tears and grabbed them and hugged them, tears flowing freely.

I tell this story, to relay the crushing poverty that exists in these and many countries around the world, not just in Mexico or Cent. and South America. Unfortunately,
some of this human misery and poverty is due to economic
opportunists from the USA going back to the late 1800's who est. large plantations there and various industries to
rape and pillage the natural resources of the native peoples. So, remember our hands are not totally clean.

[crazybabyborg]

Hi Monkeys! I just finished watching the sunset on this Easter Day. I wanted to send you my wishes for all the hope and promise that is Easter.
HE IS RISEN! , the stone is rolled away, the curtain torn, the comforter given, and we are reconciled to God through His grace. Happy Easter!

[Lala'sMom]

I see we are playing nicely in the cage tonight.  Hope everyone's Easter was happy!

[justinsmama]

I've always disliked washing dishes by hand. I'd do anything to get through it. As a child of about 12-13 years old, I remember playing with the bubbles, lifting each dish from them, and pretending that they were Jesus ascending into Heaven. LOL!

[MsVada]

Happy Easter Monkeys

We got our power back today,  Lost it Thursday night after a mini ice storm hit.  

I can see I have LOTS of catching up to do.  

Hope you all had a wonderful holiday.

Ms.DV

[San]

Was Lee in the casino?  If so, what was she wearing there?  Had she changed from the beach?

Anna here is a photo of the casino.  I think Lee is standing near Natalee.

[Anna]

Thanks, San,
Looks like her but I am not certain either.  Also appears the same beach outfit.  If it is her.  

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[San]

Thanks, San,
Looks like her but I am not certain either.  Also appears the same beach outfit.  If it is her.  

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I agree it does look like her and she is wearing the same outfit.

[Lala'sMom]

Was Lee in the casino?  If so, what was she wearing there?  Had she changed from the beach?

Anna here is a photo of the casino.  I think Lee is standing near Natalee.

I have a question that I have been wanting to ask for several months...is that guy standing where the dealer would be ever been identified as Guido?  Anyone?

[San]

Was Lee in the casino?  If so, what was she wearing there?  Had she changed from the beach?

Anna here is a photo of the casino.  I think Lee is standing near Natalee.

I have a question that I have been wanting to ask for several months...is that guy standing where the dealer would be ever been identified as Guido?  Anyone?

I haven't heard anything on who that guy is Lala's.  His hair does resemble Guido's hair.

[Lala'sMom]

I don't know where to find the actual video any longer, but I thought at one time Cat seemed to think it was Guido.  Don't hold me to that, because I am probably wrong.

[Lala'sMom]

Another question...how many people can play blackjack at each table?

[Lala'sMom]

OOPS! Sorry, another question...what was the girl's name sitting next to Joran?

[carpe noctem]

I don't know where to find the actual video any longer, but I thought at one time Cat seemed to think it was Guido.  Don't hold me to that, because I am probably wrong.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=1648336

[sb]

The top that Lee is wearing in all the photos is exceptionally long with almost a tail to it. I think it would cover the waist area and a skirt wouldn't be visible below it.

I DO think that is Lee in the Photoshopped pic.

And notice the difference between the top of her head in the casino picture and the top of her head in the altered pic.

The white spot(s) on Natalee's blouse were something I had never noticed before this. That's a good catch by whoever brought it up. I will say though that the angle of the arm may be hiding it.

[bleachedblack]

I don't know where to find the actual video any longer, but I thought at one time Cat seemed to think it was Guido.  Don't hold me to that, because I am probably wrong.

Here is a youtube casino video clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA3NKpGHnqc

[crazybabyborg]

OOPS! Sorry, another question...what was the girl's name sitting next to Joran?

Hiya, Lala's! I don't know the answer to any of your questions, but I'll find out if you could just tell me if that's Paulus!  

[carpe noctem]

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