Lively Case Discussion #597 4/7 - 4/9/2007

[klaasend]

Has anyone seen Sam lately.  I just realized I haven't seen her.

She hasn't posted since March 25th??  Hope she is OK.

klaas,

whatevuh happened to nychic on the fp

Don't know Carpe

[Lala'sMom]

Are the students 302 affadavits listed somewhere here?

No they are at BFN.  I just brought Whatley's over though.

Do you think we could ask Debbie if we could post them here?  Not all of us venture outside the cage.  

[Lala'sMom]

Does anyone know where the entire video that was shown on TV is available?  I want to see the part where the man is talking to Natalee again.  TIA

I thought Carpe posted it, didn't he?

I missed the part where Natalee is speaking to the man next to her...the one we all know is Paulus.

[sb]

I am thinking that maybe Michele Gumm was NOT the one with the CC's pics.

Also, I have a feeling that it was a different school group that she saw on that boat they were on. Remember that it was known that there were several groups like that there at the time.

The Katherine/Madison statement says that there was no one outside MB on the snorkeling trip with them.

[klaasend]

Are the students 302 affadavits listed somewhere here?

No they are at BFN.  I just brought Whatley's over though.

Do you think we could ask Debbie if we could post them here?  Not all of us venture outside the cage.  

I'm really not confortable that they've been posted anywhere to be honest

[bleachedblack]

Are the students 302 affadavits listed somewhere here?

No they are at BFN.  I just brought Whatley's over though.

Do you think we could ask Debbie if we could post them here?  Not all of us venture outside the cage.  

I am having a very hard time finding the 302 statements at BFN, would like to
re-read the info.    

[klaasend]

I am thinking that maybe Michele Gumm was NOT the one with the CC's pics.

Also, I have a feeling that it was a different school group that she saw on that boat they were on. Remember that it was known that there were several groups like that there at the time.

The Katherine/Madison statement says that there was no one outside MB on the snorkeling trip with them.

SB, I agree.  It was a different group she saw.

[Lala'sMom]

Does anyone know where the entire video that was shown on TV is available?  I want to see the part where the man is talking to Natalee again.  TIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA3NKpGHnqc


 

The part I am looking for is not in that clip.  If it is I have developed selective seeing.  Help!

[Lala'sMom]

Are the students 302 affadavits listed somewhere here?

No they are at BFN.  I just brought Whatley's over though.

Do you think we could ask Debbie if we could post them here?  Not all of us venture outside the cage.  

I'm really not confortable that they've been posted anywhere to be honest

They are out there, I don't see why we can't have them also.  It's public knowledge and the car is already out of the bag, sotospeak.  Alas, I will have to be content.  

[yapperz1]

Here is the transcript from Heli of Lee on AMW

AMERICA'S MOST WANTED June 3 TRANSCRIPT Page 1

NOT VERBATIM NOT COMPLETE


Rick Seagal

In the small town of Meridian everyone knows Dave Holloway and the hell he's been through

Emotional interviews with her mother have come to symbolize the family's anguish.

Dave Holloway mostly stayed in the background while his ex wife became the voice behind this tragedy.

Dave:

I'm holding down 3 jobs, I'm an insurance agent, I have my job as father and parent and third I've had the job of trying to figure out what happened in Aruba

Rick

For the first time, her best freind Lee Broughton is coming forward to tell her story, she was with Natalee that night

Lee

For the first two motnhs I would cry and have nightmares and the flashbacks were so vivid.

The flashbacks come when I'm in a party scene, the emotional pain about Natalee was too great to do interviews before. I was so hurt to have Natalee gone. After I saw the shows a lot, I decided to do this one I saw how some shows have been able to find people.

We were excited to be away from home on this gorgeous island. I was with Natalee most of the time, we thought it was a nice safe island..we thought everybody was good and friendly and mostly everyone was.

Rick

Lee, Natalee and her friends went dancing at a popoular night spot on the night Natalee disappeared

Lee

I know for a fact she had never met him prior to that night, we thought he was a very nice young man, we had a good impression of him. We asked if he was going out that night

Rick

Lee went back to the hotel room at closing and went to bed, she didn't know Natalee had left with Joran and his friends.

Lee

We assumed she had slept in a bed with our other girlfriends, we got on the phone and dialed our other friends in other rooms, we thought she was with so and so

Rick

That's when Lee started to panic

Lee

I felt nausesous, I started bawling, I had to go tell the police that were in the hotel a description of Natalee and what we had been doing. That's when I started getting really really worried
Dave:

I was sitting on the back patio when I got that dreadful call.

Rick:

Reliable information seemed impossible to find

Dave;

We heard from leaks in the police department that Joran had confessed and was leading police to where Natalee's body was. The next day the aruban spokesman said this is not a homicide investigaiton, we think she's still alive

My heart was stuck in my throat, in total panic, I was almost non functional.

Rick

Dave couldn't sit by and wait for answers that never came, so he went looking for them. We joined him in Aruba last Octobr when he was waiting to watch TES look for Natalee's remains in the ocean.

The aruban authorities wouldn't issue the documents to allow tES to go deeper to search.

Tim:

Chief Dompig wouldn't give us what we needed ..

Dave:

Everything stopped and we got stonewalled.

Rick:

Month after month, Dave would not give in to despair Neither could we, but we wondered what could we do to help that hasn't already been done

In March we got our chance, arubans invited us to work with Dutch Federal Police.. they were producing an entire program on the Holloway case.

Since the Dutch tV show, police have arrested and released two more people After the year he's been through it was disappointing but not surprising for Dave

After a year, what would you like Natalee to know?

Dave:

I think Natalee knows that we're not going to give up on her.

[Lala'sMom]

OOPS!  That should be "cat" not car.  Angieitis strikes again...

[klaasend]

Does anyone know where the entire video that was shown on TV is available?  I want to see the part where the man is talking to Natalee again.  TIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA3NKpGHnqc


 

The part I am looking for is not in that clip.  If it is I have developed selective seeing.  Help!

Lala's I know what you are looking for, I'll try and find it for you.

[yapperz1]

AMW's link for the video of Lee is here:

http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/video_photos.cfm?id=32411

[carpe noctem]

Casino pic enhancement slide I am currently doing a few.


Here's 1


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/87777777.png

[San]

Did anyone notice how long the transcripts are from Joran's interviews compared to his statements.  His interrogations were suppose to be 10 hours long and we only got about two pages each from each PV.

[carpe noctem]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/dd.png

[carpe noctem]

[Tibrogargan]

Happy Easter Monkeys
I am back - no idea what the problem was but just now been able to log in.  Yippeee!!!    What have I missed?

You have to read back and catch up with the photoshopped pic.  The monkeys have uncovered another case of deceit and underhanded dealings once again.

Thanks Lala's - I am swinging back and forth trying to catch up.  It all looks very interesting.  We have a lot of clever monkeys.

[carpe noctem]

[Lala'sMom]

Yes, Tibro.  They are far smarter than I any day of the week.