Lively Case Discussion #499 7/21 - 7/22/2006

[Sue]

I can see headline of Enquirier Now
Joran onto next victim with her face plastered on front page

[ldstlou]

Hi Monkeys,

Do you know what I don't get?

How could anyone listen to Tim Miller and Larry Garrison last night and today still support J2K?

Are they not thinking at all?

OOHH BTgirl...hope you are not referring to me!! Not supporting the creeps at all!! But hoping it will BREAK them big time!!! Watching scooter enjoy life...while theirs is hell!! THEY ALL SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH HELL!!! Excuse my language!! But if I were them!! and were watching Joran prancing all though town having a good old time...I would want to take him down with me!!!

[BTgirl]

Hi Monkeys,

Do you know what I don't get?

How could anyone listen to Tim Miller and Larry Garrison last night and today still support J2K?

Are they not thinking at all?

it's unbelievable, isn't it?  Anyone with even half a heart (and a functioning brain) would almost have to get behind Tim and Larry simpoly based on what they had to say last night alone!  

I don't know what to tell you BT.  Some people just aren't right...

Amen brother!

[SunFreak2]

Koen on the left, Sander on the right (I think) and I don't know the guy in the middle but you see him in alot of pics with Sander - Julu 15, 2006 Bahia:

The guy in the middle is Darwin Dubero I believe.  He has very distinct ears.  He's in the PIMP pic too.

http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=Bw6kr6ddd-XeYFQU

[ldstlou]

From the CoolAruba album:

http://album.coolaruba.com/thumbnails.php?album=436&page=3

He makes me sick.

That might be the top of a boxed pack of cigarettes, but what's that sticking up? I've never seen a pic of Joran where he looks so much like Anita. Who is the other guy?

I think it is a box of cigars...kinda like Swisher Sweets...only w/out the filter.

[Jacqueline]

Koen on the left, Sander on the right (I think) and I don't know the guy in the middle but you see him in alot of pics with Sander - Julu 15, 2006 Bahia:

The guy in the middle is Darwin Dubero I believe.  He has very distinct ears.  He's in the PIMP pic too.

Distinct?

You are being kind...........

[San]

According to MF at Refugees:

Yes, he was on vacation staying at the Marriott with his girlfriend. Having fun in the pool, playing soccer on the beach and with a lot of American tourists taking pictures and filming everything he did, maybe one even sold this "exclusive" to the show.

According to Dilbart at Refugees:

Yes, he is staying in Aruba until college starts in september.

Why is he staying at the Marriott?  Doesn't he have a house in Aruba??   I know, you don't have to answer this.

  I asked the same question.

He did the same thing when he went to Aruba durring Xmas break.  He stayed at the Marriott.  Makes you wonder?

It does make me wonder Klaas.

1. There is either something at the house he is uncomfortable with.
2. The people who helped him with the cover-up want to monitor his activities.  The guy that is staring at him in that  picture looks like a body guard.
3. Or he just wants to start right where he left off but only in a different hotel.

[BTgirl]

Hi Monkeys,

Do you know what I don't get?

How could anyone listen to Tim Miller and Larry Garrison last night and today still support J2K?

Are they not thinking at all?

OOHH BTgirl...hope you are not referring to me!! Not supporting the creeps at all!! But hoping it will BREAK them big time!!! Watching scooter enjoy life...while theirs is hell!! THEY ALL SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH HELL!!! Excuse my language!! But if I were them!! and were watching Joran prancing all though town having a good old time...I would want to take him down with me!!!

You can sure I'm not referring to you.

I'm referring to those people who continue to bash victims in spite of the fact that good sense and all the evidence should make the truth obvious to them.

[Sue]

Koen on the left, Sander on the right (I think) and I don't know the guy in the middle but you see him in alot of pics with Sander - Julu 15, 2006 Bahia:

The guy in the middle is Darwin Dubero I believe.  He has very distinct ears.  He's in the PIMP pic too.

Distinct?

You are being kind...........

and looks like underage sanders has a drink in his hand

[BTgirl]

Okay, I know it's unkind and unworthy, but I gotta say this.

If Koen isn't careful, he's going to get too big to fit into the bed with his parents.

[San]

Something here is telling, folks, IMO. BECAUSE Joran can come back and party hardy, and afford this lifestyle, and enjoy acceptance, it indicates to me, again, that this was not a drugged date rape just gone wrong. Maybe there are people that are pleased with Joran's ability to dodge this bullet, and have awarded him/his family nicely.

This I do know: it takes big bucks to support kids, with one in college, pay a high profile attorney, maintain a house, travel internationally, vacation regularly, drop $$ at casinos. There is no outward explanation for a teacher and defunked judge to be able to afford such a lifestyle. How much would he have gotten for a book deal and interview, anyway? That's a good question for a Dana guest.

Do you think they made Joran a Capo in the crime family as his reward

[SunFreak2]

All I know is the mother of that blonde has got to be OUT OF HER MIND!!

The blonde may be an actress who is paid to be on Joran's arm. He wants to flaunt it to Natalee's family and also rehab his image with the Arubans.

[San]

Okay, I know it's unkind and unworthy, but I gotta say this.

If Koen isn't careful, he's going to get too big to fit into the bed with his parents.

BT, Have you been taking lessons from Tyler.  

[Leslie]

Kat_Gram:  Pictures of the opening of the Sex store (Yes there is nudity and some sexual stuff pictured - it is a sex store that has porn videos) are here:
http://yadoneknow.com/main.htm
You better save the ones you want because, the guy who owns the site,
reads this forum. [/b]

[ldstlou]

AND HE HAS COST THE ISLAND A FORTUNE!!!! And here he is...spending a leisurely summer IN A HOTEL!!!!! spending money FREELY!!! the $$ he made at Natalee's expense as well as the ARUBA's EXPENSE!!! Just smearing it in their faces!!! I don't think he is going to last the rest of the summer!!!

This is the perfect picture to pass around to all your family and friends and show how Aruba supports a psycho murderer on their island and he is back to his old tricks of drugging and raping.  Do you really want to vacation here.

 This is the perfect picture to post on front of Diario!! This is what we are suffering for!!! And while we are at it...let's post on front page!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU GAVE UP YOUR LIVELYHOOD FOR!!! And while we are at it...lets send it to Dompig...THIS IS WHAT YOU SOLD YOUR SOUL AND CAREER FOR!!! Shall we go down the list!!!!!???

[klaasend]

Yep, that's Darwin alright.  I believe Koen and Sander would be both underage.  I think Koen is 17 and Sander 16.

[thirdstrike]

Something here is telling, folks, IMO. BECAUSE Joran can come back and party hardy, and afford this lifestyle, and enjoy acceptance, it indicates to me, again, that this was not a drugged date rape just gone wrong. Maybe there are people that are pleased with Joran's ability to dodge this bullet, and have awarded him/his family nicely.

This I do know: it takes big bucks to support kids, with one in college, pay a high profile attorney, maintain a house, travel internationally, vacation regularly, drop $$ at casinos. There is no outward explanation for a teacher and defunked judge to be able to afford such a lifestyle. How much would he have gotten for a book deal and interview, anyway? That's a good question for a Dana guest.

I'm not sure CBB.  I don't think it'd be neccessarily any kind of reward for getting away with what he, in fact, got away with.  He's a damn cocky kid...plain and simple.  It's in his nature to flaunt his escapades in front of any and everyone whom he can.  Because, if you think about it, he's been doing that his entire life!!  In his mind, there'd be no need to stop now...

Deosn't the simple fact that he's even ON that island after all that's happen indicate to you that he's unafraid of what could happen to him or his family?  One would think that you wouldn't want to push your luck...especially with potentially your life on the line.  If the correuption is that high up, it wouldn't be a problem at all to make sure someone like him doesn't talk...ever again.

For all intents and purposes, I believe Joran ONLY reason for doing what he's doing in Aruba is to degrade and demean both Natalee and her family, and the authorities who's supposedly investigating the crime itself.  Again, it's in his nature to be arrogant....

Thoughts?

[Nut44x4]

Okay, I know it's unkind and unworthy, but I gotta say this.

If Koen isn't careful, he's going to get too big to fit into the bed with his parents.

I was going to say.....he sure is 'growing'-----out, not up, lol.

[San]

All I know is the mother of that blonde has got to be OUT OF HER MIND!!

The blonde may be an actress who is paid to be on Joran's arm. He wants to flaunt it to Natalee's family and also rehab his image with the Arubans.

This could be true.  He is rubbing it in everyones face.

[Lala'sMom]

Okay, I know it's unkind and unworthy, but I gotta say this.

If Koen isn't careful, he's going to get too big to fit into the bed with his parents.

Sending you the bill for my new monitor, the old one has tea all over it now.