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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 15- 6/10/2011
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1:46pm Friday June 10, 2011 Court is in Session.
Dr. Jan Garavaglia is back on witness stand.
Jeff Ashton is up.........
Dr. Jan Garavaglia is the Chief ME for Orange and Osceola Counties. Jeff is showing her items marked for evidence. First item contains the canvas laundry bag. Next item is baby blanket, next item is body bag with leaf litter, next item is tied black plastic bag, next item is untied black plastic bag, next item is shorts, next item is t-shirt, letters and stitching, next item is the hair mat.
Manner of death is the classification of death based on all the information avail to us. Accident, homicide, etc. She brings in to bear all her experience. Her opinion is manner of death is HOMICIDE. Based on 3 main items. First a red flag is when a child is not reported to authorities with an injury, that is foul play. 2nd is that the child's body was hidden also it is often found that these children's bodys are in suitcases or plastic bags like in this case. Another flag would be the duct tape. There is no reason for a child to have duct tape on their face. There is no reason for a child to have duct tape after they died. The cause of death is the chain of events that led up to the child's death. What led up to the death. She cannot render a medical conclusion of cause of death. She can reliably say it is a homicide but she does not know what means it would of occurred. The possible object with the body was duct tape that could of caused death or suffocation with a plastic bag. She is aware of the chloroform in this case, a child subjected to a large amount of chloroform could of caused a child's death. She doesn't have enough scientific cause to say what was the cause of death but it certainly was a homicide. She can't rule out any trauma because the body was so decomposed. Their was no antemortem injury to the bones that would of created death. There was no history of illness to cause the child's death. Jeff is done.........
Mason is up...............
You live in Orlando? Yes. For the period of time of 4 months you were aware of the media attention that was caused by this case, she does not watch news but she had heard of this case. Did you know there was circus-like activity around the Anthony's home? No. Was she aware that it would be in her district? No, she was hoping it would be in Lake County. She was told by investigators about chloroform involved. Did you bring in an expert for chloroform? I brought in an expert, a toxicologist, of bones. You sent him a piece of bone from the left femur? Yes. She sent Dr. Goldburger a piece of the left femur to test for chloroform and other volatile chemicals. Meaning that you were looking for chemicals that could of contributed to this child's death? Yes. He did a myriad of tests? No, it was very limited what he could do with bone. When he was done, the tests were negative to each and every test? That is correct. Were you present when Dr. Warner Spitz.......Objection...side bar....side bar over......Did the defense team's Dr. Warner Spitz attend the autopsy? No, she was informed by her office that someone from the defense wanted to come but it is office policy that no one is allowed to come. Were you aware that Dr. Spitz performed a 2nd autopsy? Objection.......sustained. What tests did Dr. Goldburger perform. Tested her hair, scrapings from the bone marrow, bone, tested the washing she did of the cranial cavity. All were tested for chloroform and Xanax. You did not cut open the cranial? No, absolutely not. You found no antemortem trauma? No. We found post-mortem trauma of animal activity. You never found about any trauma to this child did you? No, I did not. You are confirming that despite all of this testing there is no scientific causes of this child's death. You call it a homicide instead of an accident? No, the circumstances involved only supported a homicide. Nothing from the media was entered into her decision. She would not place any suggestions into her saying it was ONLY A HOMICIDE. What scientific information did you use? Systematic observational studies, all the accidental causes, accidental drownings are immediately called in. Everything has to be put into the circumstance of death, all studies, all known information. By her experience and what is know by the way homicides occur, there is no logical explanation to not report a child missing and toss it into a field and leave it to rot. Even hiding a child's body is indication and duct tape anywhere on a child is indication. What of this is scientific? Accidental deaths are reported and if you do not report and injury to authorities you are risking a child's life. We know through our morgue that accidents are reported. You are telling this jury that this death was not 100% accidental? What if someone finds a totally dead child that was obviously drowned? They call 911. No matter how stiff a body is, they want help to save that child. He is badgering her. Objection....sustained. Cause of death you don't know, manner of death was homicide? Yes, the manner of death was defensible as homicide. From other cases? Yes. If these remains were found 4 months before you would of had a better chance of finding cause of death? Absolutely. You said the duct tape was only on the lower mandible? Yes. Mason is done...............
Jeff is up.........
The defense wanted to do a 2nd autopsy? Yes. Did you keep the body the same way as it was? Yes. Except for the items we sent for testing. You kept everything intact for them? Yes. Did the testing for the substances you did from the bones and hair, did you think you would find anything? No, not from bones. At the stage of 4 months earlier, which would of been August after 2 months, what would the body be like? Skeletonized, internal organs completely gone. Dr G is excused.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 15- 6/10/2011
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Dr G - A mother or parent has a legal moral and ethical obligation to report a child missing
This is the best quote...a MOTHER has a LEGal MORAL & Ethical obligation to report. Even if you give the molestation B.S. any credance, it does not EXEMPT her from her LEGAL MORAL & ETHICAL OBLIGATION as a MOTHER.
Dr. G. definitely the BEST witness so far!
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Quote from: MOMDET on June 10, 2011, 02:26:30 PM
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WOW.....she is incredible! 100% of the time and she is going toe to toe with senior citizen, weird how Casey isn't crying now while they talk about bones being chewed by animals, and the being thrown away like trash, she is only getting angrier and angrier. Hope the jury is watching this pathetic performance...
I agree Island Monkey...she isn't looking at the pics now, nor was she before, however the conversation is the same. So why no tears? Hope the jury picks this up!
Becasue yestrday was all about Caylee being the victim and she needed to be a victim for a while (in her mind), today is more technical without the pic's and lastly she is an evil, murdering slutty piece of trash who didn't deserve to mother a sewer rat much less a beautiful child like Caylee.....wow, slore is still pissed. Too bad you freak!!!!!!
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CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Back row of jurors chatting and smiling during sidebar front row watching attorneys and #caseanthony.
http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey
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Why doesn't Jose want this witness to testify?
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Dr. G
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Quote from: Jesse on June 10, 2011, 02:33:01 PM
Casey reading probably what she shouldnt be she is such a sneaky b....
I think she is reading the transcript of the sidebar. She has every right to do that.
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No child should have duct tape on their face when they die. There's no reason to put duct tape on the face after they die. ~ Dr. G
"People don't make accidents look like murder." ~ Jeff Ashton
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Quote from: Brandi on June 10, 2011, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on June 10, 2011, 02:27:59 PM
Dr G - A mother or parent has a legal moral and ethical obligation to report a child missing ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::
Great Dr. G quote!
ITA That is exactly what this case is about.
Think about the OS. What part of this being an accident that fits in with ICA's answer to Lee: "Maybe because I am a spiteful bitch"??
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CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Juror 1 Still worried she can see witness screen. She is an older woman with glasses. They move it for her during sidebar.
http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey
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Quote from: west941 on June 10, 2011, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: ZooMomology on June 10, 2011, 02:31:42 PM
The only thing Dr G said that bothers me is that she said the tape was on teh lower mandible. I know that being 6 months in a bag and then being dragged by animals would shift the tape off her mouth and nose, but will the jury know this?
That was the 2nd or 3 person that said duct tape on the mandible only. Two people said on the mouth and nose..
No worries, it shouldnt have been present at all...bottom line
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Quote from: Brandi on June 10, 2011, 02:33:53 PM
Dr. G
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No child should have duct tape on their face when they die. There's no reason to put duct tape on the face after they die. ~ Dr. G
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Quote from: _icey_ on June 10, 2011, 02:30:10 PM
Dr. G just blew the duhfenses theory out of the water (pardon the pun) because she said 100% of all drownings she has dealt with, people have called 911 in hopes of that person being revived.
Edit- please post in black. Full color posts are hard on some of our Monkeys eyes. MB
You hear of cases in the news now and then of kids found in the water, for a half hour or so.... being revived.. they may take a while to physically recover because of things like brain damage but they miraculously are revived. So Casey is full of BS.
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Sorry Caylee, the jury took your day away.
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Quote from: west941 on June 10, 2011, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: ZooMomology on June 10, 2011, 02:31:42 PM
The only thing Dr G said that bothers me is that she said the tape was on teh lower mandible. I know that being 6 months in a bag and then being dragged by animals would shift the tape off her mouth and nose, but will the jury know this?
That was the 2nd or 3 person that said duct tape on the mandible only. Two people said on the mouth and nose..
The mandible attches to the skull, and it was keeping the mandible on, it was on her mouth and nose, I have no doubt. We shall see.
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OMG - Is Bobo going to ask for another friggin mistrial because they just got whooped by Dr. G?
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Dr. G
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Quote from: _icey_ on June 10, 2011, 02:30:10 PM
Dr. G just blew the duhfenses theory out of the water (pardon the pun) because she said 100% of all drownings she has dealt with, people have called 911 in hopes of that person being revived.
Also they would give Caylee dignity and not toss her out like trash
Please stop doing full posts in colors. It's hard on some Monkeys eyes.
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Desserts from the dessert lady. I love this judge.
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WTf is the matter now??!!
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.Dr.G. was so impressive and she really made it clear to the jury that this child could have only died by homicide..especially when she talked about the duct tape ....I feel relieved and lighter hearted than I have in a while, although I have no doubt that the Ho will be found guilty of murder...
oh geez! another break in court today! jury to be dismissed for a while..what now??
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Sorry Caylee, the jury took your day away.
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Quote from: ZooMomology on June 10, 2011, 02:31:42 PM
The only thing Dr G said that bothers me is that she said the tape was on teh lower mandible. I know that being 6 months in a bag and then being dragged by animals would shift the tape off her mouth and nose, but will the jury know this?
That was the 2nd or 3 person that said duct tape on the mandible only. Two people said on the mouth and nose..
No worries, it shouldnt have been present at all...bottom line
But, will the jury believe her death was caused by the tape, or what? Does that matter?
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