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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 15- 6/10/2011  (Read 663131 times)
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« Reply #1380 on: June 10, 2011, 03:05:30 PM »

Wow, the judge isn't taking a very long recess.  I'm thinking he won't let this in.  But I wish he would.
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« Reply #1381 on: June 10, 2011, 03:05:43 PM »

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#CaseyAnthony In recess until 3:15

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#CaseyAnthony Baez cited some case law in his objection to video...judge looking over that right now

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#CaseyAnthony Witness says animation would help to show that tape could have covered both Caylee's nose and mouth

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« Reply #1382 on: June 10, 2011, 03:06:12 PM »

I swear KC just now reminded me perfectly of that woman on Laugh In years ago who wore the bun and the sweaters on the park bench. I tried to get a screen shot of it but was too slow.
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« Reply #1383 on: June 10, 2011, 03:06:46 PM »

I swear KC just now reminded me perfectly of that woman on Laugh In years ago who wore the bun and the sweaters on the park bench. I tried to get a screen shot of it but was too slow.

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« Reply #1384 on: June 10, 2011, 03:06:56 PM »

I am thinking JP isn't liking this animation

    
I think judge p just wants to be very cautious.
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« Reply #1385 on: June 10, 2011, 03:07:01 PM »

Does everyone here really feel like the duct tape was the cause of death?
I think that chloroform was the cause of death, and that the tape was put on afterward either 1) to ENSURE death or 2) after death to prevent bodily fluids escaping as decomposition started

i think she cholorformed her until she fell asleep and then put the duct tape on to smother her to ensure that she died. 

yes..I think this is exactly what happened too...
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« Reply #1386 on: June 10, 2011, 03:07:09 PM »

I swear KC just now reminded me perfectly of that woman on Laugh In years ago who wore the bun and the sweaters on the park bench. I tried to get a screen shot of it but was too slow.

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« Reply #1387 on: June 10, 2011, 03:07:18 PM »

2:35pm Friday, June 10, 2011 Court is in session.

There is a matter going to be taken outside of the jury's presence.  He is excusing the jury.  He is giving them some deserts to enjoy and a special break. 

Casey is visibly upset and not sad, she is mad, mad, mad.

Jeff Ashton is asking the court to explain to the media that they are going to show photos of the skull and they are to be pixelated or blurred.  Baez wants a proffer for this tape.  He is showing a tape to the judge and gallery.  Casey is very, very mad.  Casey is definitely watching this and she is MAD, MAD, MAD!!!!  Baez is upset and has his arms crossed.  In Session's says that the CD is showing Caylee's smiling face superimposed with images of her skull.  The judge wants to know what is the relevance of this CD?  Jeff Ashton says this is a graphic representation of showing that a single piece of duct tape could of killed her.  The skull has to be there to show a one to one ratio of the duct tape.  The tape shows that the duct tape was the murder weapon.  Baez says that he has heard a lot of testimony about chloroform being the cause of death and now this fantasy tape shows a different cause.  This goes to 403 that it can't be used.  He says these images are disgusting and have no relevance.  Baez says that the ME or the anthropologist could do this without this graphic depiction.  The judge is telling them to reference McDuffy V State.  The judge needs to re-read it, he hasn't read it in awhile.  Baez tries to talk and JBP cuts him off.  Baez says if 403 was ever created for a matter it was created for this matter.  There is no testimony and can be no testimony that the duct tape was in this position.  He is also citing Pierce V State.  He goes on to cite the case.  He says there is no testimony that this duct tape was on this child's face.  One piece was found 9 feet away.  Judge tells Baez that this is going to be a proffer and he wants no objections.

Next witness is outside of juror's presence. Michael Warren.

He is a forensic anthropologist.  He is an Asst Professor of Forensic Anthropology. Did you work with Dr. Shultz in this case?  I did.  They took photos of the decedents skull and photos of the actual duct tape and photos of the actual child.  The scales in the photo are exactly comparable.  There is no way to match the tape to the child's skull because it has no soft tissue.  By using the skull and the photo, he can make sure that the tape is in the right place.  It is not possible without this evidence that he can decide where the tape would have been.  There are some measurements out there but not the one's that he needed.  Using other methods would not be as an exact as this evidence.  Jeff is done proffering....

Baez is up.........

When did you find out about duct tape being a murder weapon in this case?  The first day but Mr. Ashton was not there.  He made the suggestion to Mr. Ashton.  You weren't present when the duct tape was removed from the skull?  No, I wasn't.  So you only know from photographs what the hair mat and skull looked like?  Objection.  The hair mat was underneath Caylee's skull.  Yes.  When she was alive, the hair was not in a hair mat.  You don't know when this photo was taken?  No.  Children grow rather rapidly, don't they?  Yes.  The photo looked like it was close to the time she died. 

Judge asks Dr. what is the purpose of this demonstration?  A skull was utilized, explain to me why?  We took a photo of the skull with a scale and a photo of the duct tape with a scale, he can then use the photo of Caylee is a landmark. Judge asks, is the skull in the photo necessary for you to explain this evidence?  Without the animation?  Yes but not as clearly.  It takes the science out of the demonstration. 

Jeff Ashton is up..............

There has not been significant growth between the photo and the photo of the skull?  Yes.  Jeff is done..............

Judge is asking Baez about case law he wants him to look at.  Baez gives him more case law.  Recess until about 3:15 pm......Court is in recess.
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« Reply #1388 on: June 10, 2011, 03:07:24 PM »

Wow, the judge isn't taking a very long recess.  I'm thinking he won't let this in.  But I wish he would.

It is a scientific analysis, so I see no reason for it not to be in. Same thing as reconstructing a face from a skull in forensics.
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« Reply #1389 on: June 10, 2011, 03:07:44 PM »

Does everyone here really feel like the duct tape was the cause of death?
I think that chloroform was the cause of death, and that the tape was put on afterward either 1) to ENSURE death or 2) after death to prevent bodily fluids escaping as decomposition started

i think she cholorformed her until she fell asleep and then put the duct tape on to smother her to ensure that she died. 

I know I am three pages behind, but I think she was overdosed with chloroform and then
the tape was applied.  Makes me sad to even type this....
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« Reply #1390 on: June 10, 2011, 03:07:59 PM »

I swear KC just now reminded me perfectly of that woman on Laugh In years ago who wore the bun and the sweaters on the park bench. I tried to get a screen shot of it but was too slow.

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Yep that is the one.
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« Reply #1391 on: June 10, 2011, 03:08:15 PM »

Group monkey prayers for LETTING IT IN!!!  PLEASE LET IT IN!!!
Dear Lord, we are here seeking justice for one of your angels, Caylee Marie Anthony. Please guide CJBP in his decision so that justice indeed will be served. Amen.
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« Reply #1392 on: June 10, 2011, 03:08:21 PM »

Its not like this type of testimony has never been used before thru photography or sculpting busts.

Bozo's point about weight gain or growth is irrelevant IMHO because you wouldnt expect to see a significant growth versus deterioration in a deceased body, especially a child.
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« Reply #1393 on: June 10, 2011, 03:08:36 PM »

I swear KC just now reminded me perfectly of that woman on Laugh In years ago who wore the bun and the sweaters on the park bench. I tried to get a screen shot of it but was too slow.
Turbo, go to the last page of the break room!
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« Reply #1394 on: June 10, 2011, 03:09:03 PM »

I swear KC just now reminded me perfectly of that woman on Laugh In years ago who wore the bun and the sweaters on the park bench. I tried to get a screen shot of it but was too slow.

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Yep that is the one.

In the break room, there is a funny pic of it (I forget who created it but kudos!)
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« Reply #1395 on: June 10, 2011, 03:09:26 PM »

Group monkey prayers for LETTING IT IN!!!  PLEASE LET IT IN!!!
Dear Lord, we are here seeking justice for one of your angels, Caylee Marie Anthony. Please guide CJBP in his decision so that justice indeed will be served. Amen.
Dear Lord, we are here seeking justice for one of your angels, Caylee Marie Anthony. Please guide CJBP in his decision so that justice indeed will be served. Amen.
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« Reply #1396 on: June 10, 2011, 03:09:34 PM »

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« Reply #1397 on: June 10, 2011, 03:09:45 PM »

Group monkey prayers for LETTING IT IN!!!  PLEASE LET IT IN!!!
Dear Lord, we are here seeking justice for one of your angels, Caylee Marie Anthony. Please guide CJBP in his decision so that justice indeed will be served. Amen.
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« Reply #1398 on: June 10, 2011, 03:10:14 PM »

One piece of that duct tape would have covered her mouth.  But were there not three pieces?  Surely not one on top of the other!
Her little head was so tiny.  Three would cover from the eye cavaties to below the mouth. One testified to this.  The jury needs to see this.
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« Reply #1399 on: June 10, 2011, 03:10:18 PM »

It's amazing that the slore can watch a picture of her daughter morph into a bare skull without tearing up.  If the jury was here she would be slumped down poking her eyes again.
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