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« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2007, 11:20:24 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2007, 11:20:47 PM »

Perhaps you're being monitored?  Have you Aussies ever heard of the Patriot Act?   Laughing
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« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2007, 11:22:24 PM »

lalas

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/?action=view&current=ghtytryddd.png


More photos there..
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« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2007, 11:24:16 PM »

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I guess I could do this, couldn't I?  Do I need to upload to my photobucket account?


Can you guys see the arm now?  Oh please, someone see the arm.. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2007, 11:25:12 PM »

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Perhaps you're being monitored?  Have you Aussies ever heard of the Patriot Act?   Laughing


I will send an email to John Howard about it all.  Laughing  Laughing

Seriously, there was another Aussie reading here - ISP was Optus I think out of Sydney.
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« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2007, 11:26:34 PM »

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I guess I could do this, couldn't I?  Do I need to upload to my photobucket account?


Can you guys see the arm now?  Oh please, someone see the arm.. Rolling Eyes


Lala's I have seen the arm since Carpe first posted it.   Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad
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« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2007, 11:26:38 PM »

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the wrist and hand pics are in this link.  Just scroll through them and you will be amazed at how it jumps out at you at the size it is in there.
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« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2007, 11:29:03 PM »

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I guess I could do this, couldn't I?  Do I need to upload to my photobucket account?


Can you guys see the arm now?  Oh please, someone see the arm.. Rolling Eyes


  Yes I can see it.. saw it days ago.. and other images as well  Sad
 Been looking at those photos in his photobucket for a long time.
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« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2007, 11:30:46 PM »

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the wrist and hand pics are in this link.  Just scroll through them and you will be amazed at how it jumps out at you at the size it is in there.


 I agree Lalas.. I can see  better in the smaller photos .  Esp since I got my new puter.. on my old one.. it was hard. The resolution to this new one is alot better!
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« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2007, 11:31:04 PM »

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the wrist and hand pics are in this link.  Just scroll through them and you will be amazed at how it jumps out at you at the size it is in there.


LaLa's:  It's easier for people to see if they turn up the brightness on
their monitors.  I really didn't see the arm until I did that.

DId you ever find out how big the bag was or when the pictures were
taken?
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« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2007, 11:34:20 PM »

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the wrist and hand pics are in this link.  Just scroll through them and you will be amazed at how it jumps out at you at the size it is in there.


LaLa's:  It's easier for people to see if they turn up the brightness on
their monitors.  I really didn't see the arm until I did that.

DId you ever find out how big the bag was or when the pictures were
taken?

No way to know exactly when the video was taken other than it was before it was uploaded to the aru-bay site.  I don't remember the exact date on this video..might have been around June 15?  Not sure.  That is when it was uploaded so it could have been video'd any time before that.

The size of the drain area the bag was in was about 4ft square and probably at least that deep (I think)
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« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2007, 11:34:45 PM »

Angie & Lalas - Thanks for transcribing tonight. I put some of your posts in the M&C thread (page 21). Some of those questions cleared up some "mysteries" we have posted there.
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« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2007, 11:37:19 PM »

None - If you're around - you have "mail" and SO DO I !!!!! YES !!!!!
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« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2007, 11:37:41 PM »

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Angie & Lalas - Thanks for transcribing tonight. I put some of your posts in the M&C thread (page 21). Some of those questions cleared up some "mysteries" we have posted there.


  YW MsMarple.. I am glad Klaas and Lalas were typing as well. I know I missed alot.
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« Reply #74 on: April 09, 2007, 11:51:20 PM »

I'm trying to put all this together in my mind.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

A few days ago, Carpe said that he was reviewing the video taken at the
rock area and there was a portion of the video that consisted of a van
that had the back window knocked out.  There were men in some kind
of suits, like anti-viral suits (?), that were removing the bodies from the
rock area... is that right?

Ohhhh.... it's funny that you were talking about Max de Vries, because
last night I was doing some research.  There is very little information
available on the internet, but from the stuff that I read it sounded like
he and a man that his mom had met at the hotel that they were staying
at had gone out on jet skis.  According to this man, Max's jet ski had
stalled so he turned aroung to go to where he was and his jet ski stalled
also.  So the two of them waited in the water for resuers.  Max got tired
and was taken away by the current.  In another account, the story was
the same, except they had started swimming to shore and Max got
taken away with the current.  The part of the story that I find hard to
believe is that the man's jet ski, supposedly, stalled at the same spot.
What would cause that?  I've never heard of such a thing.  But with all
the human trafficking that goes on there, and with the siting of Max in
South America (if that is true) the whole disappearance of Max could
have been a hoax... a true kidnapping.

Also I read up on the disappearance of William "Bud" Larson.  According
to what I read, he didn't die while wind surfing.  I read that he had gone
to the rental shop to pick up his board that he had reserved, to find that
it had been rented to someone else.  He had an arguement with the
people in the wind-surfing shop and left... he was never seen again.  I
read that Aruban authorities put his family through the same wild goose
chase as they had put Natalee's family through.

Anyway...  I just thought that it was amazing that you were talking about
Max de Vries today, when I was thinking about him, just lastnight.

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« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2007, 11:51:23 PM »

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Angie & Lalas - Thanks for transcribing tonight. I put some of your posts in the M&C thread (page 21). Some of those questions cleared up some "mysteries" we have posted there.


Wow! I made the murder and crime thread.  I am honored.  That is such an important thread too.  I have read so much over there that just made my jaw drop.
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« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2007, 11:51:58 PM »

I changed clothes.. feel kind of nekky now with no bonnet and bunny..lol
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« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2007, 11:53:02 PM »

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Angie & Lalas - Thanks for transcribing tonight. I put some of your posts in the M&C thread (page 21). Some of those questions cleared up some "mysteries" we have posted there.


Wow! I made the murder and crime thread.  I am honored.  That is such an important thread too.  I have read so much over there that just made my jaw drop.


   LOL I read it too.. and even my typos are there  Shocked    Wink  Wink
  Thanks Ms  lol
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« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2007, 12:02:43 AM »

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Carpe hasn't gotten back to me on the dimensions of the basin, but I suspect Klaas is right when she says about 4 ft. square and at least that deep.  

I will add this for those that are interested.  In the previous thread this afternoon, Chicago 510 posted something that I decided to test.  He/She said that when first viewing the videos the idea of them being a type of retracing the steps on the fateful night occured to him/her.  I then went back and watched the videos without stopping.  I just sat there and watched them without any interruption and I discovered that could very well be true.  While I sat there watching things that last year made no sense to me made perfect sense.  

There is the part where the silver sedan is following the red police truck into the quarry ( I think I have that right) and there is a spot there where the driver turns to face the camera.  Eleye and I looked for that pic forever.  I also saw it on Carpe's photobucket that Angie gave the me link to.  I was determined to find it, because I had seen it before and knew it was there.    Everyone that is interested should find the time to just sit and watch the video.  It is much clearer to me that this is not just a vacation video, it was made to send a message.  I think I have realized today just how much corruption in involved and just how much is being covered up. Jossy just iced the cake for me tonight.
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« Reply #79 on: April 10, 2007, 12:10:57 AM »

Did we move that enhanced reflection from the car over here yet?  How do I do that?  I can always blow the margins again if necessary.   Laughing
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