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« on: June 13, 2011, 08:02:27 AM »


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JA  -    Jeff Ashton
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 01:33:54 AM »

Thursday, trial resumes at 1pm because they are waiting for a witness to arrive
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 06:30:34 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 06:54:25 AM »

Good morning monkeys!!  Does anyone have a list of all of the charges against Casey?  I know there are multiple charges but can't find them. 

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 07:04:26 AM »

Good Morning Monkey-I hope the state end with a bang-dont want to hear from another expert-They should put someone on who knows the real KC-that is if anyone knows the real KC-I say Jessie-let him say KC left him because he loved Caylee more than her-
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 07:09:14 AM »

Good morning monkeys!!  Does anyone have a list of all of the charges against Casey?  I know there are multiple charges but can't find them. 

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http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
Charges: ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
   
   
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Level
   
Date
1.     FIRST DEGREE MURDER      782.04(1)(A)(1)   Capital Offense   06/15/2008
2.     AGGRAVATED CHILD ABUSE      827.03(2)   Second Degree - Felony   06/15/2008
3.     AGGRAVATED MANSLAUGHTER OF A CHILD      782.07(3)   First Degree - Felony   06/15/2008
4.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008
5.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008
6.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008
7.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 07:10:58 AM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fla-prosecutors-are-close-to-wrapping-up-their-evidence-in-casey-anthonys-murder-trial/2011/06/14/AG0f8BUH_story.html
Fla. prosecutors are close to wrapping up their evidence in Casey Anthony’s murder trial
By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, June 14, 2:28 AM

ORLANDO, Fla. — The murder trial of Casey Anthony, who’s accused of killing her daughter, will resume in a central Florida courtroom with the prosecution close to wrapping up their evidence presentation.

Court recessed early on Monday with the state calling only a pair of FBI forensics experts. The reason for the early dismissal was because the prosecution’s next witness isn’t scheduled to arrive in town until early Tuesday afternoon. State attorneys say they’re ahead of schedule and the defense could be able to call its first witness Wednesday.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 07:12:10 AM »

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-trial-day-18-20110614,0,1950952.story
Casey Anthony trial: Trial to begin at 1 p.m. today
By Amy Pavuk, Orlando Sentinel
5:20 a.m. EDT, June 14, 2011

Casey Anthony's first-degree murder trial will resume this afternoon, putting state prosecutors one step closer to wrapping up their case against the single mother.

Proceedings ended early Monday because the state announced its next witnesses weren't available until this afternoon.

It's unclear who the state intends to call today, but many speculate it will be forensic analysts. Court will begin at 1 p.m.

Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry told jurors Monday that the state may wrap up its case by Wednesday, which means the defense could begin calling its witnesses Thursday.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 07:12:32 AM »

Good morning monkeys!!  Does anyone have a list of all of the charges against Casey?  I know there are multiple charges but can't find them. 

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http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
Charges: ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
   
   
Statute
   
Level
   
Date
1.     FIRST DEGREE MURDER      782.04(1)(A)(1)   Capital Offense   06/15/2008
2.     AGGRAVATED CHILD ABUSE      827.03(2)   Second Degree - Felony   06/15/2008
3.     AGGRAVATED MANSLAUGHTER OF A CHILD      782.07(3)   First Degree - Felony   06/15/2008
4.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008
5.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008
6.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008
7.     FALSE INFO TO LEO RE MISSING PERSON OR FELONY      837.055   First Degree - Misd   06/15/2008

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 07:15:49 AM »

http://www.wesh.com/r/28229418/detail.html
Will Casey Prosecutors Rest Case Today?
Judge: Casey Trial Ahead Of Schedule
POSTED: 6:02 am EDT June 14, 2011
UPDATED: 6:11 am EDT June 14, 2011

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28229418/detail.html#ixzz1PFQAy4Nn



http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/transcript/casey-anthony039s-behavior-could-help-prosecutors-connect-forensic-dots
Connect the Forensic Dots
Published June 13, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record
Special Guests: Mark Fuhrman and Dr. Michael Baden

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," June 13, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: We take you now to Casey Anthony's temporary home, not one you would like. It's a jail. It's the Orange County jail. You get a rare look at where Casey is spending her days when she is not in the courtroom.

And jurors are hearing surprising testimony about the hair and duct tape found on Caylee Anthony's skull. The prosecution is hours away from resting. What's the defense going to do, put on evidence? Or is the defense also going to rest? Our legal panel is here as this murder trial enters week number four.

But first, jurors in the Casey Anthony murder trial are hearing new testimony about that duct tape which prosecutors claim Casey used to suffocate 2-year-old Caylee. No fingerprints were found on the three strips of tape, but an FBI examiner testified today that she saw something very strange.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 08:47:39 AM »

does court start at 9am i dont see anything yet
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 08:48:35 AM »

Have I somehow missed Jesse Grund's testimony or have they not called him?  With the trial winding down, I wonder if some of the ones we expected to be called will not be called?  (I've pretty much convinced myself the Prosecution won't call Kronk.)

When they gave their list of potential witnesses for trial, did they have to include their "possibles" for the penalty stage at that same time?  I'm wondering if perhaps that's where some of the ones we haven't seen will come in.

Also, have I missed the introduction of the nursing home video or do you suppose it will be used in their closing argument?  I think it is powerful in personalizing Caylee.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 08:49:34 AM »

If Casey was convicted of the manslaughter charge, how many years would she have to serve?
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 08:49:52 AM »

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Silverspnr Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:42 pm

I am a little amazed that so many here find the tattoo to be significant.

The state did an excellent job of laying out the indisputable fact that Casey was on a ME-ME-ME-LIES-LIES-LIES-PARTY-SHOP-SCREW-STEAL-PARTY-SHOP-SCREW-BORROW-PARTY-SHOP-SCREW-LAZE ABOUT-LIE-LIE-LIE-LIE-LIE tour for the entire 31 days.

The tattoo is a double-edged sword.
"Bella vita" can be interpreted and ARGUED BY THE LAWYERS to mean 2 diametrically opposed things:

Yes. One could argue that it signified her newfound freedom, in a "Screw Caylee! I'm living the GOOD LIFE now that the 'little snot' is finally out of my hair!" kind of way.

But yes, someone else could argue that it signified a troubled, grieving mother's TRIBUTE to her Caylee, a beautiful life. (And Casey saw to that FOR them when Lee questioned her about it during one of the jail house video visits.)

A skillful prosecutor will not open the door to that argument.
They don't need to prove she got a tattoo to prove the elements of ANY of the charges against her.
So, not only is it IRRELEVANT to their burden of proof, but it opens a can of worms for the jury to argue about what it meant. (You'd be surprised how a jury dispute over some vague and non-essential matter could end up hanging the jury on the real issues in the case.)

They obviously decided that the "HOT BODY CONTEST" Casey entered on the 20th was far more potent at getting the message to the jurors.

And think about it: there was no way for the defense to twist "HOT BODY CONTEST" around on them and insinuate to the jurors that she participated in that contest as some sort of alleged "tribute" to Caylee.

How many times did the jurors hear that Casey entered into a "HOT BODY CONTEST" just 4 days after even SHE now admits that Caylee was STONE, COLD DEAD.

That is what I would call prosecution-editorial GENIUS.

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 08:50:18 AM »

does court start at 9am i dont see anything yet

I think they are waiting on an out-of-town witness to arrive.  Court is at 1 pm today.
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2011, 08:51:25 AM »

Uh-oh, KC, death row inmates have no air-conditioning...hmm....in Florida....I guess that sucks for you!!

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/index.html#Routine


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The Daily Routine of Death Row Inmates
Death Row &
Death Watch cells:   A Death Row cell is 6 x 9 x 9.5 feet high. Florida State Prison also has Death Watch cells to incarcerate inmates awaiting execution after the Governor signs a death warrant for them. A Death Watch cell is 12 x 7 x 8.5 feet high.

Men on Death Row are housed at Florida State Prison in Starke, FL, and Union Correctional Institution in Raiford, FL. The women on Death Row are housed at Lowell Correctional Institution Annex in Lowell, FL.

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Meals:  Death Row inmates are served meals three times a day: at 5:00 am, from 10:30 am to 11:00 am and from 4:00 pm to 4:30 pm. Food is prepared by prison staff and transported in insulated carts to the cells. Inmates are allowed plates and spoons to eat their meals. Prior to execution, an inmate may request a last meal. To avoid extravagance, the food to prepare the last meal must cost no more than $40 and must be purchased locally.   
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Visitors:    All inmate visitors must be approved before visitation is allowed. Questions regarding an inmate's visiting day(s), visiting hours, and special visits should be directed to the Classification Officer responsible for the inmate at the inmate's assigned facility. Questions may be sent by letter, e-mail or by telephone. Members of the news media may request Death Row inmate interviews through the Department of Corrections Public Affairs Office at (850) 488-0420. The inmate must agree to the interview and the interview will be non-contact.   
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Showers: The inmates may shower every other day.   
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Security:     Death Row inmates are counted at least once an hour. They are escorted in handcuffs and wear them everywhere except in their cells, the exercise yard and the shower. They are in their cells at all times except for medical reasons, exercise, social or legal visits or media interviews. When a death warrant is signed the inmate is put under Death Watch status and is allowed a legal and social phone call.   
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Mail,
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Entertainment:    Inmates may receive mail every day except holidays and weekends. They may have cigarettes, snacks, radios and 13" televisions in their cells. They do not have cable television or air-conditioning and they are not allowed to be with each other in a common room. They can watch church services on closed circuit television. While on Death Watch, inmates may have radios and televisions positioned outside their cell bars.   
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Clothing:  Death Row inmates can be distinguished from other inmates by their orange t-shirts. Their pants are the same blue colored pants worn by regular inmates.   

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    12.68 years is the average length of stay on Death Row prior to execution.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2011, 08:51:37 AM »

does court start at 9am i dont see anything yet

I think they are waiting on an out-of-town witness to arrive.  Court is at 1 pm today.

oh wow...didnt they say Jesse now lives in GA, i wonder if thats true and if its him
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2011, 08:52:28 AM »

Which of the links show the materials shown to the jury?
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2011, 08:52:59 AM »

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Silverspnr Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:38 pm

Folks-
This trial is NOT OVER YET!
Try to reserve judgment about whether or not the STATE has met its burden of proof until:
You have heard ALL of the evidence; AND
You have carefully listened to the CLOSING ARGUMENTS; and
You pay attention to the jury instructions as delivered by Judge Perry, which set forth the LAW the jurors are tasked with following to reach their verdict.

This case is not yet "ripe" for a verdict.

And even when it is, be prepared for others to have different OPINIONS than your own.

If someone offers an opinion based on matters which were NOT IN EVIDENCE, it is easy to discount said opinion. For example, it is fine to disregard arguments about Casey's mental state --which is NOT a defense here, because the defense is not offering any "insanity" or "mental defect" defense. The defense is that Caylee's death was "accidental" and ergo, not a HOMICIDE. All of the alleged sexual abuse/family dysfunction is NOT a defense. The jury will NOT be instructed on any form of "insanity" or "mental defect" defense. In other words, they will not have an option to find her "not guilty by reason of insanity or mental defect". It will NOT APPEAR on their Verdict Form.

However, be prepared to accept that others may disagree about the STRENGTH of the state's case on the issue of PREMEDITATION.

She is charged with 1st Degree Murder.
But she is also, ALTERNATIVELY, charged with Aggravated Manslaughter.
There is a REASON for this.
If jurors cannot agree that the state proved she INTENTIONALLY KILLED her daughter, they may still agree that the state proved she recklessly (or even negligently) committed an act that resulted in the death of her daughter.

Murder and Aggravated Manslaughter are simply different classes of criminal HOMICIDE, but they are both FELONY KILLINGS nonetheless.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2011, 08:53:14 AM »

Good morning, monkeys!

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