Lively Case Discussion #599 4/11 - 4/13/2007

[Patti]

I know alot of people don't see the body.... but some did yesterday.

And, like I said earlier... it has the same wounds on it, but on the back
side.  A hole to the left side of her body, in what would be the chest area.

I also see blood on her ankle, especially the left ankle where there is a ring that I think may have been caused by a rope.  I think she was bound and wouldn't be surprised to find that she has the same sort of wounds to her wrists.

As far as the amputation of the arm.... I am not totally sure of that.  It may be that the arm is just not visible beyond about eight inches from the shoulder.  The right leg is not that visible either.  

I really would appreciate you taking a look at it and running it through a filtering process because I would swear on a stack of bibles, I see it.

Yesterday, someone asked why the painter would paint the rocks with a
body being right there in the open.  THe only thing that I can figure is that there was blood on the rocks and they were afraid that a plane passing overhead would spot it.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Still here and looking ..

[crazybabyborg]

And I'm afraid I really do see hair coming over the left shoulder.

Sleuth, I'm going to take another look at your labels (thank you so much for doing that). Can you see the position that I do?

Sorry, perhaps I'm so focused on the face toward the right that I am not seeing what you are seeing.  Don't worry though, as I never see anything.....

No, no, hon! I have difficulty with most all things others see. I'm just shaken right now, because I really do see a recognizable Natalee with her face turned toward the right. I really do. Sleuth you've done a magnificent job with this photo!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I know alot of people don't see the body.... but some did yesterday.

And, like I said earlier... it has the same wounds on it, but on the back
side.  A hole to the left side of her body, in what would be the chest area.

I also see blood on her ankle, especially the left ankle where there is a ring that I think may have been caused by a rope.  I think she was bound and wouldn't be surprised to find that she has the same sort of wounds to her wrists.

As far as the amputation of the arm.... I am not totally sure of that.  It may be that the arm is just not visible beyond about eight inches from the shoulder.  The right leg is not that visible either.  

I really would appreciate you taking a look at it and running it through a filtering process because I would swear on a stack of bibles, I see it.

Yesterday, someone asked why the painter would paint the rocks with a
body being right there in the open.  THe only thing that I can figure is that there was blood on the rocks and they were afraid that a plane passing overhead would spot it.

  Patti,
  I saw what you are talking about.   I get behind at times due to work and we dont have internet there. just the big boss in his office.
  I didn;t know what to make of those pics.. it did look like a decayed body with a tounge sticking out.    I couldnt see the bush thing..  
  We all see differently..  thats a given.. we always have!!!  lol
back when Sleuth posted her photos. someone said they saw a big fish in that bag.. and how long after changed their mind?  
 I do beleive there was something at that rock area for sure that was being covered up.  ESO when REN~HO posted here then. and said she was gonna go take pics.. and comes back to say she forgot batteries or a camera card? There was some lams ass excuse then.  She knows exactly where those rocks were back then ,  The FLUFFA HO!

[Sleuth]

Patti - I won't have time to work with filters for the next couple of days, but should have some time this weekend.  I will take that area of the rocks stuff and apply filters and see what I come up with.  Heck, that is exactly how this right facing image started out - I didn't see anything but kept trying at the request of others and finally came up with a filter that showed that right-facing shot.

It is very late so I must say good night for now.

Tib, I hope there is not too much sweeping to do.  I'll help with the windows over the weekend.

And who hugged Nemo - we don't want to get in trouble, so here is a ((HUG)) for Nemo..

[Patti]

I know alot of people don't see the body.... but some did yesterday.

And, like I said earlier... it has the same wounds on it, but on the back
side.  A hole to the left side of her body, in what would be the chest area.

I also see blood on her ankle, especially the left ankle where there is a ring that I think may have been caused by a rope.  I think she was bound and wouldn't be surprised to find that she has the same sort of wounds to her wrists.

As far as the amputation of the arm.... I am not totally sure of that.  It may be that the arm is just not visible beyond about eight inches from the shoulder.  The right leg is not that visible either.  

I really would appreciate you taking a look at it and running it through a filtering process because I would swear on a stack of bibles, I see it.

Yesterday, someone asked why the painter would paint the rocks with a
body being right there in the open.  THe only thing that I can figure is that there was blood on the rocks and they were afraid that a plane passing overhead would spot it.

  Patti,
  I saw what you are talking about.   I get behind at times due to work and we dont have internet there. just the big boss in his office.
  I didn;t know what to make of those pics.. it did look like a decayed body with a tounge sticking out.    I couldnt see the bush thing..  
  We all see differently..  thats a given.. we always have!!!  lol
back when Sleuth posted her photos. someone said they saw a big fish in that bag.. and how long after changed their mind?  
 I do beleive there was something at that rock area for sure that was being covered up.  ESO when REN~HO posted here then. and said she was gonna go take pics.. and comes back to say she forgot batteries or a camera card? There was some lams ass excuse then.  She knows exactly where those rocks were back then ,  The FLUFFA HO!

I'm going to go retrieve it and have you look again, okay?

Maybe you'll see it this time.

[Sleuth]

One more thing.  I do have to admit that I saw Julia's image in that sandwich that Klaasend once posted    

[Patti]

Patti - I won't have time to work with filters for the next couple of days, but should have some time this weekend.  I will take that area of the rocks stuff and apply filters and see what I come up with.  Heck, that is exactly how this right facing image started out - I didn't see anything but kept trying at the request of others and finally came up with a filter that showed that right-facing shot.

It is very late so I must say good night for now.

Tib, I hope there is not too much sweeping to do.  I'll help with the windows over the weekend.

And who hugged Nemo - we don't want to get in trouble, so here is a ((HUG)) for Nemo..

Okay... if you need to contact me, ask Klaas and she'll give you my e-mail.  I'll try to help you in anyway I can.

Thank you sooooo much.  

Good Night...

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Patti - I won't have time to work with filters for the next couple of days, but should have some time this weekend.  I will take that area of the rocks stuff and apply filters and see what I come up with.  Heck, that is exactly how this right facing image started out - I didn't see anything but kept trying at the request of others and finally came up with a filter that showed that right-facing shot.

It is very late so I must say good night for now.

Tib, I hope there is not too much sweeping to do.  I'll help with the windows over the weekend.

And who hugged Nemo - we don't want to get in trouble, so here is a ((HUG)) for Nemo..

  Sleuth  Ty again so much..
And You wont be written up in lalas bok now.. LOL  Hugs to CP too.. Nemos mommy!!  

[Patti]

Angie:

You still here?

[Patti]

I;m gonna go get it and I'll be right back...

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Angie:

You still here?

 I got booted ?  

[Angiex911dsptchr]

One more thing.  I do have to admit that I saw Julia's image in that sandwich that Klaasend once posted    

  ROFLMAO  !  Who didnt.. ha ha

[Angiex911dsptchr]

brb Patti.. puter is doing a spyware sweep and its slow as heck..
 takes a few minutes..

[Patti]

brb Patti.. puter is doing a spyware sweep and its slow as heck..
 takes a few minutes..

I just thought of something:

That thread is locked and I don't know enough about the system to be able to move it.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

brb Patti.. puter is doing a spyware sweep and its slow as heck..
 takes a few minutes..

I just thought of something:

That thread is locked and I don't know enough about the system to be able to move it.

 Patti,
 I am sure the pic will get posted again,... Carpe seems to be here early in the AM from what I have seen.

[Patti]

But, I want to thank you for keeping me here to meet Sleuth and look at his photographs.  I can't tell you how happy I am right now.  I am as sure about there being a body in that photograph as I am that I am sitting here, right now.  I had never seen the photos that he showed us tonight.  I saw the one that was in the National Enquirer, but never had seen the one that showed that injury.  I almost came out of my seat!

If this turns out to be what I think it is... we have proof that the officials were lying about what they found at the rocks.  There was no boys body there that had been buried a year ago... only Natalee.  And, if it can be of any help to the family, we know how she was murdered.  She was shot.

Thank you.... Angie.  I can't tell you how much it means to me that, in spite of not being able to see the body with your own two eyes, that you were loving enough to ask me to stay and meet Sleuth.

You are sooo kind...

Thank you.

[Patti]

So... are you tired yet?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

But, I want to thank you for keeping me here to meet Sleuth and look at his photographs.  I can't tell you how happy I am right now.  I am as sure about there being a body in that photograph as I am that I am sitting here, right now.  I had never seen the photos that he showed us tonight.  I saw the one that was in the National Enquirer, but never had seen the one that showed that injury.  I almost came out of my seat!

If this turns out to be what I think it is... we have proof that the officials were lying about what they found at the rocks.  There was no boys body there that had been buried a year ago... only Natalee.  And, if it can be of any help to the family, we know how she was murdered.  She was shot.

Thank you.... Angie.  I can't tell you how much it means to me that, in spite of not being able to see the body with your own two eyes, that you were loving enough to ask me to stay and meet Sleuth.

You are sooo kind...

Thank you.

  Pattu Sleuth is an awesome poster. And  Sleuth is a she..lol  
 I am glad you were able to veiw her photos. Seems like forever ago when she had first posted them on the site here.  
      I am gonna try and go to bed again.. I hate being sick and hate that I can take a speelping pill and it keeps me awake.  
  Sweet dreams to you Patti.. and ttyl sweety.  Night!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

CBB  what the hell are you doing back up  ?  LOL

My arse was gonna go to bed..  I have to try at least..