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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #600 4/13 - 4/15/2007  (Read 167204 times)
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« Reply #340 on: April 14, 2007, 01:59:55 PM »

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In reference to the VDS computer records, is it the general consensus of the Monkeys that there is evidence that confirms two porn videos were downloaded from the site and not uploaded to the site?
It just seems odd to me given that it's believed Joran was involved with the making porn videos he would spend money to buy movies. And just a few hours after Natalee was abducted. Could the visit to the ATM be to pull cash that had just recently been electrically deposited into an account?


I haven't decided for sure.  I have often thought that "the movies" could have been playing in the backround, during the party, at the house.
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a movie / clip had been uploaded earlier in the night and he was reviewing his "backseatbangers" collection.
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« Reply #341 on: April 14, 2007, 02:00:57 PM »



here is my pix
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« Reply #342 on: April 14, 2007, 02:01:56 PM »

I think Peter DeVries is actually the one that used the term "download". IIRC
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« Reply #343 on: April 14, 2007, 02:02:28 PM »

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here is my pix


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« Reply #344 on: April 14, 2007, 02:17:40 PM »

Buckeye,
It makes no sense to me that one would download movies at 3:45 AM if they already have plenty of porn and they were just with a female.
Does anyone know for sure if movies were downloaded and not uploaded?
The site visited just after the backstreetbangers is a site that, amoung other offerings, arranges for the posting, hosting, payment collection, payment distrubution, etc. for porn suppliers. It is possible that the visit to the ATM was to pull cash from the recent selling of a couple of videos.

Oh, and Buckeye, it started raining out here near Granville about an hour ago.

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« Reply #345 on: April 14, 2007, 02:18:47 PM »

We don't know about those movies, but part of the " alibi ' was that he was at home looking at porn. So therefore, he was home. My lights and TV are on when I am not at home also. When I just going not far away for a while.  It is a reasonable assumption that he was watching the movies but it is just as reasonable to believe that he was not. Wasn't part of the other excuse that he had to go home because he had school ?
And, there were others in the house. Paulus for sure and Val was there as Val signed on to the computer. I think he went back out. Or he was never there as he did check his Hot Mail from the Holiday Inn. The time of his log in to Hot Mail was at a time when he was still in the Holiday Inn.
I don't know what all you cold do from a cell phone.
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« Reply #346 on: April 14, 2007, 02:25:02 PM »

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I think Peter DeVries is actually the one that used the term "download". IIRC


From the computer records PV:

several porn sites, for 03.53 become supposedly 2 porn films gedownload


I think gedownload = downloaded
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« Reply #347 on: April 14, 2007, 02:25:09 PM »

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Buckeye,
It makes no sense to me that one would download movies at 3:45 AM if they already have plenty of porn and they were just with a female.
Does anyone know for sure if movies were downloaded and not uploaded?
The site visited just after the backstreetbangers is a site that, amoung other offerings, arranges for the posting, hosting, payment collection, payment distrubution, etc. for porn suppliers. It is possible that the visit to the ATM was to pull cash from the recent selling of a couple of videos.

Oh, and Buckeye, it started raining out here near Granville about an hour ago.

Ado


I never did any research on these sites.  Interesting info on the second site, I hadn't heard about that.  I don't know what to believe about any of it...because they seemed to purposefully try to throw off the case VERY early..for all I know..."the throw them off" plan could have started at 3am that night.
I'm not really a buckeye (anymore)...but I am close...
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« Reply #348 on: April 14, 2007, 02:31:56 PM »

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Quote from: "Buckeye"
I think Peter DeVries is actually the one that used the term "download". IIRC


From the computer records PV:

several porn sites, for 03.53 become supposedly 2 porn films gedownload


I think gedownload = downloaded


Should have known you would have my back  Wink
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« Reply #349 on: April 14, 2007, 02:42:36 PM »

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« Reply #350 on: April 14, 2007, 02:47:23 PM »




ha ha hahaha   ...snort
 Laughing  Cool
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-JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN - BOYCOTT ARUBA
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"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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« Reply #351 on: April 14, 2007, 02:54:16 PM »

CARPE.  Surprised  Laughing  Surprised  Shocked  Cool  Smile  Wink
And all of that and a bag of chips !
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« Reply #352 on: April 14, 2007, 02:54:59 PM »

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ha ha hahaha   ...snort
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 OMG   ROFLMAO    
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« Reply #353 on: April 14, 2007, 03:01:05 PM »

Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing


glad you liked it. co-ink-a-dinkly I'm eating a bag of chips right now!
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"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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« Reply #354 on: April 14, 2007, 03:01:38 PM »

real good for the heart, huh?
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"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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« Reply #355 on: April 14, 2007, 03:01:42 PM »

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glad you liked it. co-ink-a-dinkly I'm eating a bag of chips right now!


 
It was priceless  Smile
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« Reply #356 on: April 14, 2007, 03:03:09 PM »

I suppose there hasn't been any news about the 10 invsestigators, has there?  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #357 on: April 14, 2007, 03:08:22 PM »

I haven't heard a peep!!! Confused
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« Reply #358 on: April 14, 2007, 03:11:35 PM »

Mr. Carpe, I don't know how many time I peek in here at work and elsewhere and your work just makes me laff. And put down the bag of chips and get some granola/apples/oranges(with chocolate ! ! )
The dark choclate is VERY HEALTHY. At my work, one of the men sent away for a bag of raspberry Doctors Chocolates. $45.00 for the bag.
As seen on Oprah. How he sees Oprah is a good question as we are at work when she is on, I'll have to ask him.
They were good, but way too pricey. If you get chocos, if the first ingredient is Cocoa, it is good stuff.
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« Reply #359 on: April 14, 2007, 03:15:40 PM »

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I haven't heard a peep!!! Confused



 Confused  I been checking around too.
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