Lively Case Discussion #600 4/13 - 4/15/2007

[casa]

Thank You,I will.I know areas west of here are getting hit now.All northern monkeys should enjoy the Global warming while you can

      Oh, I love it!   A smarta$$ after my own heart!
I'm so glad you're here, Tiger!

Thanks Mishy! I'm beginning to work on the Fourth of July avatars (I have SUCH an exciting life! ) And everytime I see your cute 'lil butt I look forward to seeing how it's going to twist next!  

CBB, you are really on the ball thinking about the fourth of July!  My cute little yellow kitty wants something really cute!

[mishy]

Ang,  have you tried liquid nyquil? Got any soma?  

  Yes   I gpt some.    I had pill form.. I took YAPS advice.
 Got the liquid and no go

So the pill form did better than the liquid?

[crazybabyborg]

I need help with something.

The photo of the bag in the basin that was shown in the Enquirer was made by a woman whose name I can't remember.

However, Carpe is also showing stills of a bag in the basin that he is pulling from the videos - right?

So, do we know exactly when the photo shown in the Enquirer was made?

Or I am completely confused because I'm old?    

I don't know when, but you're right. There was discussion here about the pic being exactly the one in the enquirer although the one here had been pulled from the video.

[klaasend]

Posted by MF at FOB regarding the 10 Dutch investigators that arrived in Aruba last night (so take with a grain of salt):  

Basically it's the source of the news that was published yesterday on a blog. That the 10 investigators asked to work with the narcotics team, because they consider that how the NH investigative team provided information to the American media and third persons, made their work even more difficult.

The team comes to Aruba to make their final investigation on this case, before the Prosecutor office close the case and call it a cold case, till new evidences appears.

And that they may be working from the Noord Station instead of the Oranjestad one.

And this:

This is my opinion; they are not happy how some members of the original investigative team have acted, by giving information out/leaked to the media. Maybe even to some blogs and the family. The original inestigating team started with young police officers from different departments of the ALE 'cause as we know, in the beginning everybody was involved untill the case became more serious with family's accusations, media harrassments and lies and cover-ups and creating false evidences, distraction and the no cooperation of many in this case. And many that were involved one way or the other, wanted to be a good citizen and talked to anyone in the media and the media and other considered them official spokespersons in the case while maybe they were not even part of the team or have the complete information.

This even reminded me on how DIARIO got to some of the documents and other "information". Uhmmmmm.....

By working with this group, who they might have worked with already in the past on different cases, they know that it will be difficult for new information or additional info to be leaked out.

[mishy]

CBB the one I'm talking about is a blue picture...I've been looking at the pics after that one and I see a skull and some hands...this stuff is driving me crazy at what this could actually be...

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/?action=view&current=dgfgddggdfg.png

[BTgirl]

I need help with something.

The photo of the bag in the basin that was shown in the Enquirer was made by a woman whose name I can't remember.

However, Carpe is also showing stills of a bag in the basin that he is pulling from the videos - right?

So, do we know exactly when the photo shown in the Enquirer was made?

Or I am completely confused because I'm old?    

I don't know when, but you're right. There was discussion here about the pic being exactly the one in the enquirer although the one here had been pulled from the video.

Well, if I remember correctly, we don't know when the videos were made. However, if the bag is the same, and we know when the Enquirer picture was made, it makes sense that the videos were made around the same time.

[crazybabyborg]

Thank You,I will.I know areas west of here are getting hit now.All northern monkeys should enjoy the Global warming while you can

      Oh, I love it!   A smarta$$ after my own heart!
I'm so glad you're here, Tiger!

Thanks Mishy! I'm beginning to work on the Fourth of July avatars (I have SUCH an exciting life! ) And everytime I see your cute 'lil butt I look forward to seeing how it's going to twist next!  

CBB, you are really on the ball thinking about the fourth of July!  My cute little yellow kitty wants something really cute!

I'll do my very best for you casa. There's lots of time, so when I get one done, I'll post it in the avatar thread, and if you'd like something different, no problem, I'll change it.  

[klaasend]

I need help with something.

The photo of the bag in the basin that was shown in the Enquirer was made by a woman whose name I can't remember.

However, Carpe is also showing stills of a bag in the basin that he is pulling from the videos - right?

So, do we know exactly when the photo shown in the Enquirer was made?

Or I am completely confused because I'm old?    

#1  - The photo in the Enquirer is not a photo but a screen capture from the video.

#2  Sleuth actually was the first one to work with the screen capture and saw what appeared to be Natalee's face way back in 2005, please read Sleuth's posts in the previous thread.

#3  It was subsequently copied and other recreated the same thing using their own screen captures of the video.

[casa]

Thank You,I will.I know areas west of here are getting hit now.All northern monkeys should enjoy the Global warming while you can

      Oh, I love it!   A smarta$$ after my own heart!
I'm so glad you're here, Tiger!

Thanks Mishy! I'm beginning to work on the Fourth of July avatars (I have SUCH an exciting life! ) And everytime I see your cute 'lil butt I look forward to seeing how it's going to twist next!  

CBB, you are really on the ball thinking about the fourth of July!  My cute little yellow kitty wants something really cute!

I'll do my very best for you casa. There's lots of time, so when I get one done, I'll post it in the avatar thread, and if you'd like something different, no problem, I'll change it.  

You're a sweetheart!  I'm sure that anything you come up with will be wonderful!  No rush!

[BTgirl]

I need help with something.

The photo of the bag in the basin that was shown in the Enquirer was made by a woman whose name I can't remember.

However, Carpe is also showing stills of a bag in the basin that he is pulling from the videos - right?

So, do we know exactly when the photo shown in the Enquirer was made?

Or I am completely confused because I'm old?    

#1  - The photo in the Enquirer is not a photo but a screen capture from the video.

#2  Sleuth actually found the same still originally way back in 2005, please read Sleuth's posts in the previous thread.

#3  It was subsequently copied and other recreated the same thing using their own screen captures of the video.

Thanks, Klaas. That's what I needed to know. I misread the Enquirer article and thought it said the picture they featured was from a photo made by a woman.

[klaasend]

I need help with something.

The photo of the bag in the basin that was shown in the Enquirer was made by a woman whose name I can't remember.

However, Carpe is also showing stills of a bag in the basin that he is pulling from the videos - right?

So, do we know exactly when the photo shown in the Enquirer was made?

Or I am completely confused because I'm old?    

I don't know when, but you're right. There was discussion here about the pic being exactly the one in the enquirer although the one here had been pulled from the video.

Well, if I remember correctly, we don't know when the videos were made. However, if the bag is the same, and we know when the Enquirer picture was made, it makes sense that the videos were made around the same time.

BT - there is NO photo.  It is a screen capture of the pond video.

[BTgirl]

I need help with something.

The photo of the bag in the basin that was shown in the Enquirer was made by a woman whose name I can't remember.

However, Carpe is also showing stills of a bag in the basin that he is pulling from the videos - right?

So, do we know exactly when the photo shown in the Enquirer was made?

Or I am completely confused because I'm old?    

I don't know when, but you're right. There was discussion here about the pic being exactly the one in the enquirer although the one here had been pulled from the video.

Well, if I remember correctly, we don't know when the videos were made. However, if the bag is the same, and we know when the Enquirer picture was made, it makes sense that the videos were made around the same time.

BT - there is NO photo.  It is a screen capture of the pond video.

Gotcha  

Thanks again for clarifying.

[klaasend]

BT - yes, the Enquirer worded it very odd.  NO photo, only the screen shot of the same video that we have all seen a million times now.

[mishy]

Posted by MF at FOB regarding the 10 Dutch investigators that arrived in Aruba last night (so take with a grain of salt):  

Basically it's the source of the news that was published yesterday on a blog. That the 10 investigators asked to work with the narcotics team, because they consider that how the NH investigative team provided information to the American media and third persons, made their work even more difficult.

The team comes to Aruba to make their final investigation on this case, before the Prosecutor office close the case and call it a cold case, till new evidences appears. Sounds like they've already made their decision to me
And that they may be working from the Noord Station instead of the Oranjestad one.

And this:

This is my opinion; they are not happy how some members of the original investigative team have acted, by giving information out/leaked to the media. Maybe even to some blogs and the family. The original inestigating team started with young police officers from different departments of the ALE 'cause as we know, in the beginning everybody was involved untill the case became more serious with family's accusations, media harrassments and lies and cover-ups by ALE and creating false evidences, distraction and the no cooperation of many in this case. And many that were involved one way or the other, wanted to be a good citizen and talked to anyone in the media and the media and other considered them official spokespersons (Arlene, Julia, Tito) in the case while maybe they were not even part of the team or have the complete information.

This even reminded me on how DIARIO got to some of the documents and other "information". Uhmmmmm.....Because somebody was trying to drop the dime, but someone "got to" them before they could...thus the underlying reason for the boycott of the DIARIO (AKA punishment)

By working with this group, who they might have worked with already in the past on different cases, they know that it will be difficult for new information or additional info to be leaked out.

Klaas, I've made a few revisions  

[Artcolley]

Posted by MF at FOB regarding the 10 Dutch investigators that arrived in Aruba last night (so take with a grain of salt):  

Basically it's the source of the news that was published yesterday on a blog. That the 10 investigators asked to work with the narcotics team, because they consider that how the NH investigative team provided information to the American media and third persons, made their work even more difficult.

The team comes to Aruba to make their final investigation on this case, before the Prosecutor office close the case and call it a cold case, till new evidences appears. Sounds like they've already made their decision to me
And that they may be working from the Noord Station instead of the Oranjestad one.

And this:

This is my opinion; they are not happy how some members of the original investigative team have acted, by giving information out/leaked to the media. Maybe even to some blogs and the family. The original inestigating team started with young police officers from different departments of the ALE 'cause as we know, in the beginning everybody was involved untill the case became more serious with family's accusations, media harrassments and lies and cover-ups by ALE and creating false evidences, distraction and the no cooperation of many in this case. And many that were involved one way or the other, wanted to be a good citizen and talked to anyone in the media and the media and other considered them official spokespersons (Arlene, Julia, Tito) in the case while maybe they were not even part of the team or have the complete information.

This even reminded me on how DIARIO got to some of the documents and other "information". Uhmmmmm.....Because somebody was trying to drop the dime, but someone "got to" them before they could...thus the underlying reason for the boycott of the DIARIO (AKA punishment)

By working with this group, who they might have worked with already in the past on different cases, they know that it will be difficult for new information or additional info to be leaked out.

Klaas, I've made a few revisions  

Sounds like your revisions are right on the mark.

[friend of monkeys]

Good points Mishy...nite monkeys...be good

[crazybabyborg]

Posted by MF at FOB regarding the 10 Dutch investigators that arrived in Aruba last night (so take with a grain of salt):  

Basically it's the source of the news that was published yesterday on a blog. That the 10 investigators asked to work with the narcotics team, because they consider that how the NH investigative team provided information to the American media and third persons, made their work even more difficult.

The team comes to Aruba to make their final investigation on this case, before the Prosecutor office close the case and call it a cold case, till new evidences appears.

And that they may be working from the Noord Station instead of the Oranjestad one.

And this:

This is my opinion; they are not happy how some members of the original investigative team have acted, by giving information out/leaked to the media. Maybe even to some blogs and the family. The original inestigating team started with young police officers from different departments of the ALE 'cause as we know, in the beginning everybody was involved untill the case became more serious with family's accusations, media harrassments and lies and cover-ups and creating false evidences, distraction and the no cooperation of many in this case. And many that were involved one way or the other, wanted to be a good citizen and talked to anyone in the media and the media and other considered them official spokespersons in the case while maybe they were not even part of the team or have the complete information.

This even reminded me on how DIARIO got to some of the documents and other "information". Uhmmmmm.....

By working with this group, who they might have worked with already in the past on different cases, they know that it will be difficult for new information or additional info to be leaked out.[/i]

OMG!!! THAT'S the problem they have identified and are coming to address!!!??? God forbid they should see a little flaw in lost evidence, arresting wrong suspects while giving the OBVIOUS suspects 10 days to cover tracks, letting Paulus drive himself to the police station, obstructing a search warrent to search the property, tapping cell phones of her parents, Joran's ever-changing story, and on and on! THOSE things don't raise even a little red flag to an investigation! The problem is to put a tight lid on any info reaching the ears of the public and her parents? After all, they have no interest in this case and don't have any right to know how that Nappy Island devoured their daughter! Oh, F*** Them!
I make a commitment right here and right now, to do everything within my power..........and folks we all have far more power than we think, to shut that Island down economically.
       

This charade that's about to happen is going to be hard to swallow.

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST- PHOTOSHOPPED PICTURE OF NATALEE ON BAR:

Natalee Holloway Fauxtograpghy … Was this an Attempt to Discredit Natalee?

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/04/13/natalee-holloway-fauxtograpghy-was-this-an-attempt-to-discredit-natalee/

[igsigs]

By working with this group, who they might have worked with already in the past on different cases, they know that it will be difficult for new information or additional info to be leaked out.

When you read something like this, it actually sounds like a real investigation is ongoing. But with MF being the source there is really no way to know.

[crazybabyborg]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST- PHOTOSHOPPED PICTURE OF NATALEE ON BAR:

Natalee Holloway Fauxtograpghy … Was this an Attempt to Discredit Natalee?

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/04/13/natalee-holloway-fauxtograpghy-was-this-an-attempt-to-discredit-natalee/

Good One!!!