Lively Case Discussion #601 4/15 - 4/17/2007

[robots]

they get her into the car with a LIE about "oh we also are staying in the hotel, we are just visiting aruba also"  

go to somewhere, maybe the lighthouse area, or somewhere like that

they rape her, take pictures,  joran had his clothes off including the sneakers,

she passed out from the drugs

they panic... because they gave her the drugs

they bury her, using the sneaker as a GENERAL MARKER

the other sneaker was left in the K2 car, they still have it somewhere

they leave her,,,,  and k2 take the KILLER home

killer gets daddy sloot to help him..

pappa sloot drives to take care of the body...with joran killer at home on computer


it aint rocket science, the lies started too early and had to keep changing
as the story made no sense at every turn

beech story was a LOAD of horse manure

[San]

The powers that be were not chastising Paulus for the sake of decency...it was all done for show.  They know that he holds all the cards still where they are concerned.  He has worked in the secret corners of their judiciary for years.  He knows things about people in the Netherlands as well as Aruba.  No one has a kid that has done the things Joran has done and continues to do without having the "goods" on a lot of people.  An underage boy can not gamble in a casino with a line of credit without the people in power allowing it.  That includes the casino owners and the government.  It goes to the corruption.  

Most people think I believe that the actual demise of Natalee was a complicated thing, but it wasn't.  I have stayed within the simple mindset about her death.  It was the circumstances and subsequent cover up that becomes the problem.  For the truth about what happened to Natalee to come out the world would need to see what other skeletons are buried in Aruba's closets.

Excuse my manners, hello everyone!

Lala's I agree.  I have kept it simple on how Natalee died.  It was murder at the "hands" of Joran.  You are correct that it was everything that happened afterwards that made it big.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Angie, count me with those who think you need to tell someone about what he did. That was disturbing.

Is there any chance at all it was meant for your daughters instead of you (not that that makes it any better)?

 
It may have been meant for my daughter or step daughter? I dunno?
  He dont have either one of their IM's since they bno longer reside here.
 They have mine. his mom and dad both ..and my hubbys.
Yes it was diturbing. I am sick anyhow.. and to have my firends son flash  his peep.. it was a web cam.. all real time. the dancing was funny.. but then the peep shot.. I saw that and clciked off.. and scolded him.
 I probaly shouldnt have posted  about it to begin with.

[Anna]

they get her into the car with a LIE about "oh we also are staying in the hotel, we are just visiting aruba also"  

go to somewhere, maybe the lighthouse area, or somewhere like that

they rape her, take pictures,  joran had his clothes off including the sneakers,

she passed out from the drugs

they panic... because they gave her the drugs

they bury her, using the sneaker as a GENERAL MARKER

the other sneaker was left in the K2 car, they still have it somewhere

they leave her,,,,  and k2 take the KILLER home

killer gets daddy sloot to help him..

pappa sloot drives to take care of the body...with joran killer at home on computer


it aint rocket science, the lies started too early and had to keep changing
as the story made no sense at every turn

beech story was a LOAD of horse manure

I agree that it was something similar to this but think at some point Natalee was at the Sloot residence.  But yeah, basically, that's what happened.

 

[Observer]

I remember reading about the ATM withdrawls as well back at RWV. The rumor was he used the ATM two times I beleave. I always wondered about Fransisco the witness who said he helped bury natalee and was locked up in a mental institute. Art said last week that his friends said he isnt crazy.Several stories came out about that night behind the Mariott involving two others. Either way hitting the ATM after 2.30 AM is suspicious. I certainly dont beleave for a minute that Joran won that much cash from a free tournament of texas hold em.

I never have seen one lick of proof of ATM transactions but we havent seen anything of substance from the investigation except for some bogus internet chat. Even the damn computer was tampered with.

[klaasend]

I believe IF Natalee was ever at the beach, she was no longer alive.  They may have gone near the FH and disposed of her body temporarily in that area.  I think PVDS arranged to have it taken care of.  No body no case.

[robots]

they get her into the car with a LIE about "oh we also are staying in the hotel, we are just visiting aruba also"  

go to somewhere, maybe the lighthouse area, or somewhere like that

they rape her, take pictures,  joran had his clothes off including the sneakers,

she passed out from the drugs

they panic... because they gave her the drugs

they bury her, using the sneaker as a GENERAL MARKER

the other sneaker was left in the K2 car, they still have it somewhere

they leave her,,,,  and k2 take the KILLER home

killer gets daddy sloot to help him..

pappa sloot drives to take care of the body...with joran killer at home on computer


it aint rocket science, the lies started too early and had to keep changing
as the story made no sense at every turn

beech story was a LOAD of horse manure

I agree that it was something similar to this but think at some point Natalee was at the Sloot residence.  But yeah, basically, that's what happened.

 

yepper
brought to the sloot hell hole thats why JERK MAN went and googled drugs and alcohol or somethign like that

[San]

I believe IF Natalee was ever at the beach, she was no longer alive.  They may have gone near the FH and disposed of her body temporarily in that area.  I think PVDS arranged to have it taken care of.  No body no case.

I agree Klaas.

At this point in time all the lies that we have heard are for Paulus and Joran because I believe someone saw Paulus that night.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Angie
What if this guy starts doing this stuff with young boys?   Him being an adult, I would email him and tell him that you saved the video and he's now on notice that if you ever have any more problems with him...it's gonna be the police at his  door next time.


What is it with you?  Do you just attract weirdos? (Angie knows what I mean by this and it won't make her mad, trust me.   )

 No I am not mad at all  ROFL    
 BT and Lalas .. I will handle it. trust me.  
 If MY son did this crap to a freind of mines mom...  Id want to know.
   I wanna drop it.. I love you guys,, but.. it makes me sick to think about.       If The kids face wasnt in the video.. I wouldnt think it was him.. but it was.. and.. web cam? Never had one., dont want one.

[Carnut]

Angie, count me with those who think you need to tell someone about what he did. That was disturbing.

Is there any chance at all it was meant for your daughters instead of you (not that that makes it any better)?

 
It may have been meant for my daughter or step daughter? I dunno?
  He dont have either one of their IM's since they bno longer reside here.
 They have mine. his mom and dad both ..and my hubbys.
Yes it was diturbing. I am sick anyhow.. and to have my firends son flash  his peep.. it was a web cam.. all real time. the dancing was funny.. but then the peep shot.. I saw that and clciked off.. and scolded him.
 I probaly shouldnt have posted  about it to begin with.

Well, at least your IM Video works with Vista.

[robots]

Angie, count me with those who think you need to tell someone about what he did. That was disturbing.

Is there any chance at all it was meant for your daughters instead of you (not that that makes it any better)?

 
It may have been meant for my daughter or step daughter? I dunno?
  He dont have either one of their IM's since they bno longer reside here.
 They have mine. his mom and dad both ..and my hubbys.
Yes it was diturbing. I am sick anyhow.. and to have my firends son flash  his peep.. it was a web cam.. all real time. the dancing was funny.. but then the peep shot.. I saw that and clciked off.. and scolded him.
 I probaly shouldnt have posted  about it to begin with.

Well, at least your IM Video works with Vista.

hehehehehehehehehhehe

[klaasend]

Carnut, lol  

[Lala'sMom]

I remember reading about the ATM withdrawls as well back at RWV. The rumor was he used the ATM two times I beleave. I always wondered about Fransisco the witness who said he helped bury natalee and was locked up in a mental institute. Art said last week that his friends said he isnt crazy.Several stories came out about that night behind the Mariott involving two others. Either way hitting the ATM after 2.30 AM is suspicious. I certainly dont beleave for a minute that Joran won that much cash from a free tournament of texas hold em.

I never have seen one lick of proof of ATM transactions but we havent seen anything of substance from the investigation except for some bogus internet chat. Even the damn computer was tampered with.

Welcome!  Glad you are here.

Concerning the ATM.  The only mention we have of two trips any place near an ATM was Paulus' two trips to the bank to deposit money.  There is always some smidgen of truth to the lies.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

they get her into the car with a LIE about "oh we also are staying in the hotel, we are just visiting aruba also"  

go to somewhere, maybe the lighthouse area, or somewhere like that

they rape her, take pictures,  joran had his clothes off including the sneakers,

she passed out from the drugs

they panic... because they gave her the drugs

they bury her, using the sneaker as a GENERAL MARKER

the other sneaker was left in the K2 car, they still have it somewhere

they leave her,,,,  and k2 take the KILLER home

killer gets daddy sloot to help him..

pappa sloot drives to take care of the body...with joran killer at home on computer


it aint rocket science, the lies started too early and had to keep changing
as the story made no sense at every turn

beech story was a LOAD of horse manure

I agree that it was something similar to this but think at some point Natalee was at the Sloot residence.  But yeah, basically, that's what happened.

 

 I agree too.. IMO she was at the Sloot dump  

[Lala'sMom]

Angie
Are you feeling any better?  Did you get any sleep?

[robots]

they get her into the car with a LIE about "oh we also are staying in the hotel, we are just visiting aruba also"  

go to somewhere, maybe the lighthouse area, or somewhere like that

they rape her, take pictures,  joran had his clothes off including the sneakers,

she passed out from the drugs

they panic... because they gave her the drugs

they bury her, using the sneaker as a GENERAL MARKER

the other sneaker was left in the K2 car, they still have it somewhere

they leave her,,,,  and k2 take the KILLER home

killer gets daddy sloot to help him..

pappa sloot drives to take care of the body...with joran killer at home on computer


it aint rocket science, the lies started too early and had to keep changing
as the story made no sense at every turn

beech story was a LOAD of horse manure

I agree that it was something similar to this but think at some point Natalee was at the Sloot residence.  But yeah, basically, that's what happened.

 

 I agree too.. IMO she was at the Sloot dump  

hell hole  

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Angie, count me with those who think you need to tell someone about what he did. That was disturbing.

Is there any chance at all it was meant for your daughters instead of you (not that that makes it any better)?

 
It may have been meant for my daughter or step daughter? I dunno?
  He dont have either one of their IM's since they bno longer reside here.
 They have mine. his mom and dad both ..and my hubbys.
Yes it was diturbing. I am sick anyhow.. and to have my firends son flash  his peep.. it was a web cam.. all real time. the dancing was funny.. but then the peep shot.. I saw that and clciked off.. and scolded him.
 I probaly shouldnt have posted  about it to begin with.

Well, at least your IM Video works with Vista.

 

Oh yeah..  real fuc*ing funny ha ha ha.
 It was over AOL .. AIM .. Vista dont have crap to do with that at all.     I shoulfdhave just STFU about it all.  Its sick.. period.

[robots]

<------------not laughing any more


we love Angie  

[MuffyBee]

I'm sorry to see you so upset Angie.  We love you.  Hugs to you!!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Angie
Are you feeling any better?  Did you get any sleep?

 A little bit Lalas to both.  I was a slug in bed all morning and part of the afternoon .  lol
 Hope all is wel with you.. and you beat that icky weather there.