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« Reply #220 on: September 09, 2011, 01:56:14 AM »



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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #222 on: September 09, 2011, 02:41:48 AM »

ARUBA COPS: SUSPECT SECRET CONFESSION?

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-suspect-giordano-secret-confession-gardner

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« Reply #223 on: September 09, 2011, 10:16:15 AM »

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The family of murder victim Stephany Flores has another tough decision to make.
Published: 7:28 am
Updated: 7:46 am


The Flores family wants  prosecutors to seek a longer sentence against confessed killer Joran van der Sloot.  He's currently looking at a thirty year sentence if convicted of killing the 21 year old student.

They also want an end to the legal process that began when their daughter was found dead in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru hotel room in May 2010. 

The family's lawyer tells The Associated Press that Stephany Flores' family won't object to the proposed sentence because it doesn't want the trial delayed.  Lawyer Edward Alvarez says that if the Flores family were to raise objections Monday the trial could be delayed until next year.

Van der Sloot is to appear Monday before a judge who could set the trial to begin as early as October.

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« Reply #224 on: September 09, 2011, 10:37:43 AM »

Beth Holloway inspires at benefit dinner
Published: 9:19 am
Updated: 9:23 am


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Holloway now hosts a Lifetime TV series called Vanquished and brings her message of personal safety and travel safety to groups throughout the country. Thursday she was in Statesboro where she was the key note speaker at the Boys and Girls Club's Steak and Burger Dinner.

Beth Holloway, Author, host of TV series Vanquished, shares, "I just try and stay focused on the work that needs to be done and the lives that need to be reached. I feel as though I've done that with Vanished and I just try and focus my energy on the families and I understand the needs that they have."

Holloway encourages more people to volunteer for organizations like the Boys and Girls Club that make such a positive impact on children. According to Holloway, "It's a safe haven for them it's where the children learn things about the world around them and are empowered."

Holloway's story is tough to hear but as Boys and Girls Club Director Mike Jones points out it is also about perseverance. "What I hope that the audience and especially our kids got out of this is her story of hope. Hope that they can aspire to be somebody, and grow up to be very productive citizens.”

The Bulloch County Boys and Girls Clubs Steak and Burger Dinner is the club’s biggest annual fundraising event.

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http://www.thecoastalsource.com/news/local/story/Beth-Holloway-inspires-at-benefit-dinner/ncyhy99eJ0uIHIOmEfTGKw.cspx?rss=1669

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« Reply #225 on: September 09, 2011, 10:46:32 AM »

Mother of Natalee Holloway speaks in GA
Posted: Sep 09, 2011 7:21 AM PDT
Updated: Sep 09, 2011 7:22 AM PDT


STATESBORO, GA (WTOC) The crowd Thursday listened as Beth Holloway recounted details of her last phone call with her daughter, Natalee Holloway, as Natalee packed for spring break in Aruba.

The 18 year old disappeared on that 2005 trip and her presumed death has fueled international media attention ever since.

While Holloway would not discuss details of the case nor prime suspect Jordan Van Der Sloot, she spoke Sept. 8 about what she's tried to do since.

"It was in June 2005 that I made the commitment early on to the authorities and officials handling Natalee's case that I would do everything I could in order to share the hard lessons we had learned to help others hopefully avoid experiencing the nightmare that we did," said Holloway.

In addition to writing a book, she's now the host of a cable television show about unsolved disappearance cases.

"I just try to focus on the work that need to be done and the lives that need to be reached." Said Holloway.

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http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/15426276/mother-of

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« Reply #226 on: September 09, 2011, 10:54:14 AM »

My Pledge

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 200:  My child.  My beautiful daughter.  I can't save her.  It's too late.  Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.

I could be any parent in the world.  And no parent should ever go through this experience.  Natalee could be anyone's daughter.  And in these thoughts a new path is made clear.  There is something I can do.  Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them.  It might be too late to save Natalee, but it's not too late to save others.  And it's time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professionals, victims' rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee's story and our hard lessons, so that others might learn from them.


National Museum of Crime & Punishment
Loving Natalee
http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx
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« Reply #227 on: September 09, 2011, 10:56:27 AM »




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« Reply #228 on: September 09, 2011, 11:17:00 AM »

Beth Holloway inspires at benefit dinner
Published: 9:19 am
Updated: 9:23 am


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Beth Holloway, Author, host of TV series Vanquished, shares, "I just try and stay focused on the work that needs to be done and the lives that need to be reached. I feel as though I've done that with Vanished and I just try and focus my energy on the families and I understand the needs that they have."

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http://www.thecoastalsource.com/news/local/story/Beth-Holloway-inspires-at-benefit-dinner/ncyhy99eJ0uIHIOmEfTGKw.cspx?rss=1669



Vanished With Beth Holloway

About Vanished With Beth Holloway


Lifetime’s gripping true-life series “Vanished With Beth Holloway” examines some of America’s most disturbing unsolved cases, as told to Holloway by the families who’ve been victimized by mysterious abductions or disappearances of loved ones and unspeakable crimes. Now left with little hope, these families turn to Holloway, who continues to live a mother’s worst nightmare as she carries on her tireless quest to solve the mystery surrounding her daughter Natalee’s tragic 2005 disappearance. A passionate advocate for these families, Beth offers her unique insight into each case, dedicating her intensely personal point of view and empathy to family and loved ones seeking answers. Each episode will profile real-life mysteries, giving detailed accounts of the events described by those closest to the victims as Beth Holloway goes on location to conduct key interviews, introduce important facts and give the audience a clear understanding of pivotal moments in each harrowing case.

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http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/vanished-with-beth-holloway/about
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« Reply #229 on: September 09, 2011, 11:50:13 AM »

"Tragedy creates an opportunity to make a difference."

Beth Holloway - May, 2010
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« Reply #230 on: September 09, 2011, 02:16:17 PM »


THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE KALPOES

Beth Holloway

Nancy Grace - August 26, 2006


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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: We`ve known from day one...

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 12/2/2005 10:37:47 AM ET


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TWITTY:  Oh, you know, Rita, not only hearing that, but I actually saw it come across someone's Blackberry, a reporter, where Deepak was saying that he wanted $250,000 in a book or a movie deal.  You know, and I had to see it, like I said, come across a reporter's Blackberry.  Deepak's been reaching out to various reporters in the United States since early on.

COSBY:  Trying to make money off, unfortunately, your misfortune, which is disgusting.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/


Dave Holloway

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Nov. 30th
updated 9:10 a.m. PT, Thurs., Dec. 1, 2005


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COSBY: Do you believe he‘s saying that they did have sex with her? Is that what you believe?

HOLLOWAY: Oh, yes. Absolutely. You can‘t have a negative and then turn around and then support it with a positive. I mean, they‘ve got to put the whole sentence together for it to make sense. If they said, No, we didn‘t, and then turn around and said, You wouldn‘t believe how simple it was, that just—that just doesn‘t make sense.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/


Deepak Kalpoe

Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 13, 2005


To your question as to who John Charles CROES is, where he lives and how often I have chatted to him on "MSN", I can say the following. The afore mentioned John lives with his whole family in Miami. I have known him since school. We were together at the MAVO. On Monday Mai 30th 2005 I had chatted with John from about 02:40 to 03:30 hours. We didn't chat continually. From time to time I went and watched some TV. But I am sure that he was online during the time-frame I just mentioned above here.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=182.0


Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 29, 2005

You are telling me that John Charles CROES has stated that I wrote while I was chatting with him that I had written that the girl had put her hands in/down my pants, I can say the following. I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=192.0


Joran van der Sloot

The Road Ranger "Confession"


Transcript:
 
JORAN:  Ok they (Deepak and Satish) have just dropped me off. They don't know anything further.

PATRICK:  So you never told these two (Deepak and Satish) anything?
 
JORAN:  Never, never, never.


Peter Devries

Newsweek - February 8, 2008


Do you believe that the Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were involved in any way?

PETER DEVIRES:  No, not at all.  On the tapes Joran calls them stupid.  I don't believe they were involved.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/3


The Complete Story
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case


Peter Devries:

Jorans friends Deepak and Satish, who have been arrested for this case several times, are completely innocent.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm

s.t.

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« Reply #231 on: September 09, 2011, 04:24:51 PM »

Dutch Crime Reporter Peter DeVries Who Covered Natalee Holloway Case and Pursued Joran Van Der Sloot Retires

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/08/dutch-crime-reporter-peter-devries-who-covered-natalee-holloway-case-and-pursued-joran-van-der-sloot-retires/

Peter DeVries retires …

Peter DeVries, the Dutch crime reporter, who covered the disappearance of Natalle Holloway and hounded prime suspect Joran Van der Sloot has retired. DeVries did yeoman work  investigating the death and disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba. DeVries was also Joran Van der Sloot’s worst nightmare, other than Beth Holloway, as the Dutch crime reporter hunted the “little Dutch boy” throughout Europe and Thailand. How unfortunate, DeVries told the Dutch newspaper AD that he is simply tired of chasing crime stories.

Thank you Peter for all that you have done. Don’t forget Dana’s interview with Peter R. DeVries who was nice enough to take the time to sit down with Scared Monkeys Radio and that nice difference in time. The Dana Pretzer interview with Peter can be heard HERE. (go back in the Time Machine and hear Dana and Peter DeVries)



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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #232 on: September 09, 2011, 04:37:21 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6341.0

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/podpress_trac/web/466/0/021308.mp3


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Now I talked to the ultimate crime reporter the other day and I want to share a cute story with you.  There’s no more dedicated group of individuals than those at the Scared Monkeys forum and blog.  24/7, a hundred percent, all the time they’re dedicated ...Red, Dugga, Klaas, you name it all of them, San, I could go on and on.  I’ve never considered myself to be as dedicated as them but I’ve got to tell you a cute story.   I’d been wanting to interview Peter R. DeVries for some time and finally when we were able to come to an agreement as far as being able to set up an interview, I knew that Peter had been in New York and Los Angeles doing some high profile media interviews with the main stream media.  And when I got a message back from him saying yeah no problem, I’ll give you a call; I assumed that Peter R. DeVries was still in America.  Well the other night...I’m a night owl I probably shut it down around 1:30, 2:00 get to bed, 3:30 in the morning the phones ringing.  I look at the phone, my first instinct was oh I’m getting called into work I’ll just give my head a shake and wake up.  I didn’t realize that Peter R. DeVries was back in Holland.  It certainly wasn’t 3:30 in the morning in Holland when he called me however I splashed a little water on my face and the true dedicated monkey I am I climbed out of the monkeybunkey and we did this interview.  So if it sounds like I’m a little bit sleepy, it’s because I am.

Dana: o.k.  I’m back.  This is the Dana Pretzer show.  I’m very pleased to have Peter R. DeVries, Dutch Crime Reporter with me this evening to talk about the Natalee Holloway investigation and most recently the sting operation where he and his team were able to capture Mr. Joran Vandersloot and get a confession from him, something that the Aruban police were not able to do after two and a half years.   Peter R. DeVries welcome to the program how are you sir?

Peter R. DeVries:   I’m fine thank you. How are you?

Dana:   I’m very good.  Two and a half years later I’ve covered this program on my program many times, the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.  Talking to her mother, her father, her step father, you name it everyone involved.  One thing that no one expected was to see this come out.  I have to congratulate you and your team sir for a job well done.  But being a crime reporter for as long as you’ve been did you expect that you would have to go to this extent and the police weren’t able to?

Peter:  Well you never know of course I did an investigation on Aruba eighteen months ago and when I was there and saw everything.  It just, it all happened in 500 square meters, considering the lies that Joran Vandersloot already told.  I was thinking this case can be, and must be solved; and that’s why I continued.   

Dana:  The experience that you’ve had over thirty years.  Have you ever been involved with a person like Joran Vandersloot?  The type of personality that he is, the type of...some would say narcissistic or sociopathic traits that he shows.  Have you ever had any case like this before or is this the first time?

Peter:  Oh yeah, I’ve seen many people like him.  In all the cases I’ve been investigating.  In 30 years I’ve investigating for almost 500 murders and disappearances.  Well, I’ve seen this kind of people many times.  They have no regrets, they speak with disrespect about the victim, no remorse at all, and they only feel pity for themselves.  I’ve seen that many times. 

Dana:  That’s very well said because when we watch the interview you see the response that Vandersloot gives.  It must have been so difficult for the family in particular Beth Holloway, Dave Holloway, Jug Twitty to see this.  What sort of a reaction did you get from Beth at the time?  Of course we saw what we saw on the television program but we didn’t see all of the behind the scenes information.  How did Beth react?

Peter:  Beth reacted very emotional and well you can imagine she was outraged about it because the lack of respect, how he was calling her the bitch and the whore all the time and well that’s the most awful thing that can happen for a mother who lost her child. 

Dana:  Dutch Crime Reporter, Peter R. DeVries joins us this evening.  Peter, the case itself...  We’re hearing in the news here that the authorities have delayed the decision as far as re arresting Vandersloot.  This case has bounced around so many different times, and so many arrests and re arrests and we don’t really know what’s going to happen.  The confidence I guess in the Aruban authorities is well at one time at an all time low.  Is it possible for you to comment on where you think this case will go next or maybe you just don’t know?

Peter:  Well I’m quite sure that Joran Vandersloot will stand trial sooner or later.  I’m pretty sure about that. 

Dana:  Now with as you know being involved in crime reporting for so long, and my audience, and myself; not only as a talk show host but also as a law enforcement officer we know that confessions aren’t always word for word the truth and we hear this term or this name Daury come up.  As far as who this person is and what they’ve been a lot of speculation.  What can you tell us?  And a lot of people are saying that Daury is actually Paulus Vandersloot.

Peter:  Well, I don’t know that but what I can say is that I have the impression that Joran Vandersloot is protecting somebody else by mentioning the name of Daury.  During the first drive he told Patrick, our infiltrant...  I never going to mention the name of the guy who helped me, I will take that into my grave.  And the next day when we instructed the infiltrant to push a little bit on that name he was asking why don’t you tell me... you can trust me and etc.; then he mentioned the name Daury.  But at that moment already we had the impression that he was protecting somebody else and just mentioned a name.  So who the helper really is, well that’s speculating.

Dana:  Exactly, and the Aruban law enforcement and law enforcement investigators are working on that.  Let’s talk about you a little bit here.  Again, your experience... as long as you’ve been involved in a case like this.  The international news media have been all over this case for such a long time both looking at it so many different ways, the case has been spun so many ways.  I know that you’ve probably been very busy in the media.  How do you think that the international media have done covering the disappearance of Natalee Holloway?

Peter:  Well of course there was a lot of media attention over this disappearance but it was only attention.  Just a few people did really investigative journalism.

Dana:  Exactly

Peter:  (At this point) Most of the media is not doing really investigation but is only thinking things over if you know what I mean.  They don’t investigate by their selves but they’re just (?) at the beach and not really knowing anything.

Dana:  What is next for you and your team, I’m sure you’re quite busy.

Peter:  Well we continue our investigation.  At this moment we consider the case as solved in the way that Joran did confession on tape not once, not twice, but more than ten times on several days and together with the evidence which was already lying there I think you can say the case is solved but now it’s up to the Justice system to get him into jail.

Dana:  Absolutely.  Well Peter, I want to thank you of course on behalf of myself and my audience for doing something that law enforcement were not able to do to bring some answers to the family that long deserved them.  Of course we all hope that Natalee will be recovered, found and taken home where she belongs and those responsible will be brought to justice.  Again I want to thank you and congratulate you on a job well done.

Peter: o.k. thank you very much, you’re welcome.

Dana:  Thank you sir, take care.

Peter:  o.k. bye

Dana:  That’s Dutch Crime Reporter, Peter R. DeVries.  This is Scared Monkeys Radio, we’ll be right back.

Announcer:  You’re listening to Scared Monkeys Radio.  Once again your host, Dana Pretzer.

Dana:  Welcome back.  Many of us define justice as what happens in court.  Someone is arrested, someone is taken to court and they’re sentenced.  After that we may complain about the sentence and say maybe the judge was too hard or the judge was too lenient.  But there are other ways that justice can be served.  Some will say vigilante justice, we don’t approve of that here, we don’t appreciate it and we consider that to be illegal.  Sometimes justice can be knowing the answer to what really happened.  Someone I think who knows the answer to as far as what really happened to her daughter Natalee is Beth Holloway and I welcome her back to the program.  Hi Beth.

Beth Holloway:  Hi, how are you?

Dana:  I’m doing great, I’m doing great.  Listen before we get started with the interview many news reports have said that Aruban authorities would be announcing today if there was going to be a re arrest of Joran Vandersloot.  Have you heard anything?

Beth:  No I have not heard anything as of yet.

Dana:  Yeah I’ve been checking my sources and contacts and I haven’t heard anything either but hopefully we’ll have some good news.  Alright let’s set that aside.  I’m going to be speaking to Peter R. DeVries this evening.  Peter R. DeVries must hold a special place in your heart, tell us about that.

Beth:  Oh absolutely, well I think that we all would have to hail Peter DeVries as “the king” and I’m sure he does not like to be referred to that at all.

Dana:  No

Beth:  But I just can’t help it he’s just... I’ll say he was just heroic in that he stepped forward in order to bring light onto what happened and to all the circumstances surrounding Natalee’s disappearance.  And I feel that I cannot say thank you to Peter DeVries without also Patrick. 

Dana:  Yes

Beth:  You know this young man that...who’s just a father and wanted to see the right thing done, who stepped forward to also partner with Peter DeVries and make this all possible; so absolutely heroic for both of them.

Dana:  Peter and his team have done a stand up job.  Better than law enforcement have ever done.  Hopefully this will result in some court appearances and some convictions.  Time will tell but you know Beth I’ve interviewed you several times on the program and we’ve talked about answers.  Answers are something that you’ve been looking for, obviously you’re also looking for your daughter and we all hope and pray that you’ll be able to bring her home soon but did you receive the answers that you were looking for by watching that undercover tape?

Beth:  Well absolutely I did and I think I even have to back it up to what you said when you were opening your show.  Justice does come in many forms as I’ve learned and yes justice came for me as an answer and I did receive the answer and second I think I did receive justice just in the validation of the fight.  And meaning that you know every step that we took was well worth it.  And you know of course the third form of justice that I would like to see that we all would like to see is Joran Vandersloot behind bars. 

Dana:  Yes

Beth:  I feel so strongly that he is a time bomb and he’s waiting to go off and he will strike again and so it’s not just for Natalee that I would like to see him behind bars because I think that he could certainly strike again and I think he will strike again I think he was only building in his behaviors and recklessness and I think he’s shown us all he has no control over himself or his actions.

Dana:  Country’s, islands, cities, towns whatever their leaders take a vow that they will protect their citizenry.  They protect their citizenry, they protect their visitors, Aruba obviously failed in the situation.  Crime does happen we all understand that but it’s the goal and the responsibility of organizations, countries, law enforcement, you name it to conduct a proper investigation.  Now that this has gone to this extreme, I know that you have been somewhat reluctant in the past to talk about it because you were concentrating on finding your daughter and we all understand that.  But when I’ve interviewed Jug and Dave and others and we’ve talked about situations where the strange questions that you were asked when you first arrived on the island.  Jug and I spoke about that here back in December and now it’s become pretty obvious that there has to be more to this story than what we’re hearing.  Some would say that there’s corruption and cover up from the beginning.  I know that’s not going to help bring Joran Vandersloot to justice and put him behind bars and maybe it’s something that may need to be dealt with later but I’m curious Beth on your take on now compared to three, four months ago.

Beth:  Well you’re exactly right there are two different tracks.  And one is to stay focused on Joran and his admissions and what the investigators and prosecution can now do with him.  But I think the second thing to be faced eventually is we need to get to the bottom of exactly what was transpiring in the first 48 hours of Natalee’s disappearance.  You know to set aside Joran we have to look at you know we had some stunning revelations that were being admitted from Joran as he was describing them, it couldn’t help but take us back to the very beginning.  The first 48 hours after her disappearance where a lead detective asked us only one medical question.  And it was does Natalee have a history of epilepsy or seizures, and the answer of course was no.  And we didn’t know why that question kept resurfacing during the months of Natalee’s disappearance but I think that our stunning revelation was when Joran admitted that to Patrick, it’s very suspicious.  And it’s certainly a red flag that needs to be delved into.  There is a reason why this was asked of us and we need to get to the bottom of why.  So there are two different tracks but the one I really want to stay focused on right now is Joran and his admissions and as far as delving into what happened in the first 48 hours, that’s just going to be a whole separate ballgame.

Dana:  I agree with you completely, it’s something that we’ll stay focused on for sure.  The old saying Beth and without trying to be callous here, parents aren’t supposed to bury their children, children are supposed to bury their parents.  When you see a video like you saw and I use these terms callous, cold, arrogant, and some that I can’t say on the radio.  It must have made your skin crawl to watch this individual bragging, degrading your daughter the way that he did.  It was just absolutely sickening.

Beth:  Well you’re right parents aren’t supposed to bury their children and what is so, what is just so sickening to me is Joran has decided to bury everyone.  Natalee, his parents, his entire...I should not say his parents...but his mother.  You know I’ve felt from day one that his father has been involved but due to his actions Joran has buried his father deep into this with him.  I do feel that his father played a major role in Natalee’s disappearance.  But I think about his family.  I think about all the people that stepped forward to try to help.  I mean he’s just stepped on...he would step on anyone’s back to try to protect himself so I think he’s just blatantly showing us that he has an utter disregard for anyone’s human existence but his own so he would stop at nothing to bury anyone.

Dana:  I’m going to throw out some names to you and I know you’ve done this line of questioning before from other show hosts but I’m curious to see what you have to say.  When I mention the name Jossy Mansur...

Beth:  Oh absolutely heroic, what a man, what a father, what a husband he is too... I mean my goodness.  What a business man he is...integrity.  And you know I will stand by Jossy because this is an individual that stepped forward for me, for human rights, and for justice.  And gosh what he did for me was he took such a burden off of me during the month of July of 05 when I felt as if I was kind of out there on the forefront by myself going against these perpetrators until Jossy Mansur stepped forward I felt like I had no other ally.  So you know he did the most amazing thing, and he went out on a limb and he you know for no reason other than doing the right thing and as I said being about professionalism, integrity, and respect for others human rights so absolutely what an amazing man. 

Dana:  If I was to mention the name Van der Straten.

Beth:  Well he’s corrupt to his core of existence.

Dana:  I think that just absolutely nails it.  I was just sitting here just doodling with a pen and pad of paper just to see what you might write and we wrote just exactly the same thing. 

Beth:  He just doesn’t even deserve any more words.

Dana: Absolutely, I figured you would just use the word corrupt.  You know when you look at the media coverage of the story and you see that 99.999 percent of those that watch listen and read about this story care and want to see the answers, want to see your family get the justice that you all deserve.  Your take on how the media have handled all of this Beth.

Beth:  Well I think it’s been remarkable.  And I have gosh as I said you know my only allies in Aruba were the media and Jossy Mansur.  So I think they rank very high.  I mean and what a remarkable resource for parents or families to be able to mobilize when they’re faced with a crisis whether it’s a missing or murdered loved one they can be very powerful and they were just a great ally to me on the island of Aruba so I’m very grateful for them.  They were always very respectful too.

Dana:  Your book “Loving Natalee”, a wonderful book.  If this finally gets closed, this case gets closed and you were to write an epilogue in the book what would the last two lines of that epilogue be? 

Beth:  First I don’t know if I would ever do that.  And secondly I guess that Hope does not disappoint, and I think that is what I would just end it with is Hope does not disappoint.  It’s easy to give in to the pain and to let go of hope but I’ve learned through this journey that every step you take

Dana: To the protecting or talking to parents about preparing and protecting your loved ones when they go out on trips like this and how to be prepared because most people yourself included would never expect something like this to happen.  A couple of words of wisdom for Mr. and Mrs. Smith whose young daughter is about to take a trip to the Bahamas on a school vacation, what would you say to them?

Beth:  If I had to do a couple of words it would have to be communication and education, and I think those are key.  I think communication; I think that my book for one can be a starting ground.  It can be a centerpiece to you know, have those conversations with their young adults about many things they may not have talked about; everything from faith to personal safety.  I think then education of course would be my second biggest talking point and that would be logging on to the website just really choosing that format that venue to discuss how you want to go about you know ensuring your own personal safety.  Everything from International calling to medical things you must take care of before you depart our borders.  So I think it’s like I said two words communication could start with the book and education could start with the foundation so I think that would be the two key areas that I think parents begin to delve into.  I know they’re pretty broad, (?) a lot, but I think the book and the foundation can splinter off into many different areas of concerns that a family might have when they have a young one departing our borders. 

Dana:  Absolutely.  Beth I know on behalf of myself and all of the rest of the Scared Monkeys we support you a thousand percent, our fingers are crossed that the answers that you so rightly deserve and your family so rightly deserve will come to you and I appreciate you joining us.

Beth:  o.k.  Thank you so much.

Dana:  take care Beth

Beth:  It’s been incredible.  O.k. thank you bye

Dana: bye
That’s Beth Holloway and you know what more can you say than what’s already been said.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #233 on: September 09, 2011, 04:53:47 PM »

http://media.morristechnology.com/mediafilesvr/flv/flipbook/Moments/september2011/index.html

The Faith & Hope of Beth Holloway

Moments Magazine had the privilege of interviewing Beth Holloway prior to her Statesboro speaking engagement on September 8.

You wouldn’t expect a mother who lost her daughter and spent the past six years fighting for justice and change to now be spreading a message of faith and hope.  But that is exactly what you get with Beth Holloway.

The path to acceptance and peace was not a fast or easy path for her.

“I had a roller coaster of emotions early on,” she said.  “I would begin to lose hope and I would become angry and my emotions would run the gamut in one day.”

Beth Holloway lived a somewhat quiet life as a speech pathologist for children with special needs until 2005.  Her life changed drastically when her daughter Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high graduation trip to Aruba.  Her tragic story gripped headlines around the world.  Upon learning the news of her daughter’s disappearance, Beth left for Aruba to search for her.

She describes the first four months in Aruba as the toughest of her life.

“You almost have to disconnect yourself as a mother,” she said.  “You have to go to work for your missing loved one.  It is unimaginable for a parent to make that separation.  I was not able at that time to grieve.  I was spearheading the search and investigation.”

This process caused Beth to build many walls and boundaries.  It was five years before she could let go of all the bitterness and the hate.

Those times were the toughest of her life.  How did she get through it?

“The best way I know to put it, to take those steps forward, was my faith in God,” she said.
“I understand that hope becomes real when there is action behind it.  As sure as the tide would roll in, hope would always come.  It would come through a meeting with investigators or following tips and leads.”

She always put action behind it.  Because of her actions in creating the Natalee Holloway Resource Center & stirring up Aruban officials, the search for Robyn Gardner, an American woman who disappeared in Aruba in August, has been more thorough.

“I certainly learned some hard lessons and I hope Aruba learned some hard lessons, too!”

The resource center named for her daughter continues to help many families search for missing loved ones.

Helping others is something Beth has dedicated her life to as so many people joined in to search for Natalee.

“This is another important lesson I have learned.  Faith knows no boundaries.  It doesn’t matter your religious preference when it comes to reaching out to people in need.  People in all walks of life reached out to me and that is what sustained me.  It helped me to continue to take those steps forward and saved my life.”

Beth Holloway has found peace in her life and now travels to share her message with others.  She speaks on faith, hope, personal and travel safety.  She believes “hope is that inexplicable empowerment that enables us to move successfully from challenge to resolution with courage.  It’s that guarantee that there is light at the end of whatever tunnel we are trying to find our way through.  This transcends to whatever nightmare or whatever ordeal we are encountering.”

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“The struggle of life is one of our greatest blessings,
It makes us patient,
sensitive, and Godlike.
It teaches us that
although the world is
full of suffering, it is
also full of the
overcoming of it.”

~Helen Keller
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #234 on: September 09, 2011, 05:50:08 PM »

http://www.nu.nl/media/2609997/peter-r-vries-mentaal-buiten-adem.html

Google translation:

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #235 on: September 09, 2011, 06:12:47 PM »

http://nos.nl/artikel/270804-om-besluit-peter-r-de-vries-jammer.html

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #236 on: September 09, 2011, 08:10:49 PM »

http://media.morristechnology.com/mediafilesvr/flv/flipbook/Moments/september2011/index.html

(edit to add) by Reagan H. Daly

The Faith & Hope of Beth Holloway

Moments Magazine had the privilege of interviewing Beth Holloway prior to her Statesboro speaking engagement on September 8.

You wouldn’t expect a mother who lost her daughter and spent the past six years fighting for justice and change to now be spreading a message of faith and hope.  But that is exactly what you get with Beth Holloway.

The path to acceptance and peace was not a fast or easy path for her.

“I had a roller coaster of emotions early on,” she said.  “I would begin to lose hope and I would become angry and my emotions would run the gamut in one day.”

Beth Holloway lived a somewhat quiet life as a speech pathologist for children with special needs until 2005.  Her life changed drastically when her daughter Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high graduation trip to Aruba.  Her tragic story gripped headlines around the world.  Upon learning the news of her daughter’s disappearance, Beth left for Aruba to search for her.

She describes the first four months in Aruba as the toughest of her life.

“You almost have to disconnect yourself as a mother,” she said.  “You have to go to work for your missing loved one.  It is unimaginable for a parent to make that separation.  I was not able at that time to grieve.  I was spearheading the search and investigation.”

This process caused Beth to build many walls and boundaries.  It was five years before she could let go of all the bitterness and the hate.

Those times were the toughest of her life.  How did she get through it?

“The best way I know to put it, to take those steps forward, was my faith in God,” she said.
“I understand that hope becomes real when there is action behind it.  As sure as the tide would roll in, hope would always come.  It would come through a meeting with investigators or following tips and leads.”

She always put action behind it.  Because of her actions in creating the Natalee Holloway Resource Center & stirring up Aruban officials, the search for Robyn Gardner, an American woman who disappeared in Aruba in August, has been more thorough.

“I certainly learned some hard lessons and I hope Aruba learned some hard lessons, too!”

The resource center named for her daughter continues to help many families search for missing loved ones.

Helping others is something Beth has dedicated her life to as so many people joined in to search for Natalee.

“This is another important lesson I have learned.  Faith knows no boundaries.  It doesn’t matter your religious preference when it comes to reaching out to people in need.  People in all walks of life reached out to me and that is what sustained me.  It helped me to continue to take those steps forward and saved my life.”

Beth Holloway has found peace in her life and now travels to share her message with others.  She speaks on faith, hope, personal and travel safety.  She believes “hope is that inexplicable empowerment that enables us to move successfully from challenge to resolution with courage.  It’s that guarantee that there is light at the end of whatever tunnel we are trying to find our way through.  This transcends to whatever nightmare or whatever ordeal we are encountering.”

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“The struggle of life is one of our greatest blessings,
It makes us patient,
sensitive, and Godlike.
It teaches us that
although the world is
full of suffering, it is
also full of the
overcoming of it.”

~Helen Keller


The download wouldn't work earlier, so I typed out the article...but I was finally able to download it and these are the cover and the page dedicated to Beth's interview.

http://media.morristechnology.com/mediafilesvr/flv/flipbook/Moments/september2011/index.html

Front Cover, and Page 25



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #237 on: September 09, 2011, 08:51:30 PM »

A while back ... upon release ... my DIL picked up "Portrait of a Monster" at a bookstore in Bellingham, Washington.  Shortly after ... DIL and son went to Holland for a wedding and while on the long flight the book was read from cover to cover twice.  Prior to returning ... I received an email from DIL informing me of her perspective.  She claims that any positive feedback she may have afforded the book was negated by the upholding of Steph Watts, Dave Holloway and Tim Miller while at the same time subtley undermining Beth Holloway.

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Portrait of a Monster
by Lisa Pulitzer and Cole Thompson


Page 231:  Fox News producer Steph Watts had cautioned the Twitty-Kelly team about dealing with the cad, when he learned from them what Joran had proposed.  Watts had warned them not to give Joran any real money.  Coincidentally, $25,000 was the standard asking rate of Joran's "licensing" fee for an interview.  Steph said the probability of Joran fleeing Aruba once he had the down payment was almos certain.

Once back in New York.  John Kelly continued his e-mail correspondence with Joran, as the deal had a $225,000 outstanding balance.  He underestimated the flight risk that Steph had cautioned them about.

Page 232:  Being so hellbent on the murder conviction may have been shortsighted, but Beth Twitty held that as her ultimate prize, as well.  In hindsight Joran escape to Peru could have been avoided had an extortion charge been used to detain him.  Instead, he managed to flee the country with $25,000 of extorted money, having only led his victims to another dead end of lies.  The money, in turn, funded an opportunity for the horrific crime that followed.  But nobody could have foreseen such tragedy.


BOTTOM LINE


for Stephany who didn't have to die - it was ARUBAS FAULT FOR COVERING UP!




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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #238 on: September 09, 2011, 09:48:57 PM »

http://www.awe24.com/20110906/8400/4_hoben_a_maltrata_turista_Americano_na_Club_nocturno_riba_LG_Smith_Boulevard

Papiamentu translation:

4 young owing to maltrata tourist americano at club nocturno (night club) on l.g. smith boulevard

2 day happen come across, 6 of september 2011 23:05

tuesday night owing to enter informe of cu have a injury at one club nocturno on boulevard, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu 4 young owing to maltrata the tourist americano. after of owing to maltrata the tourist they owing to bandona the sitio. at arrival of ambulance they owing to atende the victima y owing to transporte for hospital.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #239 on: September 09, 2011, 09:55:00 PM »

http://arubaherald.com/local/983-prison-guard-caught-smuggling-blackberry-phones-into-kia.html



Diario says 2 Blackberry's

KIA guard caught by CEA personnel bringing in two Blackberry's and a charger hidden in his sandwich (s)?

http://www.diario.aw/2011/09/cea-a-gara-cuidador-di-preso-drentando-kia-cu-dos-blackberry-scondi-den-pan/

Papiamentu translation:

cea owing to grab cuidador of preso (prison guard) drentando kia cu two blackberry scondi in bread

publication: monday, 5 september 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad(aan): saturday morning alrededor of 7or the personal attentive of cea stop at door of kia owing to sorprende (catch) one cuidado of preso (prisoner guard) cu 2 blackberry good scondi in his sandwich. separa of the apparatus for comunica, the was have the chargernan also. is deal here of the ambtenaar javier ras cu have some year end trahando in institute coreccional aruba y cu owing to stay deteni at once y entrega at police for more investigacion. the asunto here is very earnest y for of enough year end was have atencion of esunnan responsible for cuida the institute.

the problem is cu everybody know cu is the same cuidadonan of preso (guard of prisoner) is trece blackberry eyden y sell cu the presonan (prisoners). but the problem is cu for garanan is dificil. majority trip is hinca the celular in one saco of plastic y sconde this in cuminda of the trahado, tapa below ; rice y sauce.

for her personal of cea is dificil y even contra ley for exigi of the personal of kia for they touch in his cuminda buscando articulonan prohibi. one solucion will is for prohibi the empleadonan for come trabao cu cuminda but esey will nifica the hour cu is kia self will have to percura for cuminda for his empleadonan. without doubt the will pisa on the presupuesto of the institute. one another solucion, esun more factibel, is for instala one apparatus for blokia sign of celular in the institute.

in pasado owing to arrive of hacie but the apparatus was blokia one area mucho big, consecuentemente the was stroba the bisiñanan also of ricibi or haci call via celular. is think cu have to have one apparatus in cual is blokia the sign of celular in one area more diminutive. so is evita the asunto of enter cu celular in form ilegal in jail.

saturday morning at once owing to cuminsa two trayecto at instant of grab javier ras cu celular model blackberry scondi in his bread. the first is the trayecto disciplinario, in cual owing to prohibi his entrance in kia can will soon already so can realisa one investigacion inner on the asunto here. the another trayectoria cu is march simultaneamente is esun penal, cu police y landsrecherche will haci for so determina for that the owing to bay take away the celularnan here, cuanto they're page for her trabao ey y if the is form part kizas of one organizacion criminal.

cu the detencion of saturday morning have to bay one sign cla for her personal of kia y cea, cu have to come one reorganizacion y re evaluacion of all the personal. minister mr. drs. arthur dowers will have to cuminsa think in “screen” all the personal, of director till downstairs, for sigura cu esunnan cu is work eyden is empleadonan integro, intachable y capas for accomplish cu they funcion. de will contrario will have to busca one another handicraft in gobierno.





http://www.awe24.com/20110906/8399/Hues_comisario_a_prolonga_detencion_di_cuidador_di_preso_JR_pa_purba_pasa

Papiamentu translation:

judge comisario owing to prolonga detencion of cuidador of preso j.r. for try happen blackberry at kia

3 day happen come across, 6 of september 2011 11:43

tuesday morning owing to aparece fast of judge comisario the cuidador of preso j.r. that owing to being captura at momneto cu the wanted owing to happen cu 2 blackberry in his bread at kia.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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