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« Reply #840 on: October 08, 2011, 04:44:58 PM »

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/124613/pedido-habeas-corpus-van-der-sloot-fue-denegado

Saturday, October 8, 2011

Petition for habeas corpus was denied Van der Sloot
Continue investigating the case.

The petition for habeas corpus filed by legal representatives of the confessed murderer of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores, Joran Van der Sloot, was rejected by the Constitutional Court (TC), after his defense adduce that the rights of the Dutch were violated in the course of the investigations.

According to RPP, the purpose of this request would have been the suspension of the fiscal and police investigation of the case.

"The Constitutional Court rejected on the grounds of inadmissibility, the demand for habeas corpus for Joran Andreas Petrus Dutch Van der Sloot, prosecuted for the crime of homicide and others, who alleged a violation of their rights," said a text issued by that body to the media.

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« Reply #841 on: October 08, 2011, 05:30:09 PM »

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Cadaver-dogs-find-nothing-in-Aruba-search/vFUV2awIRkGJNxQSV65A8Q.cspx

Cadaver dogs find nothing in Aruba search
October 8, 2011 - 4:18 PM

"We have other lines of investigation," Aruban Prosecutor Taco Stein

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  An American tourist disappears on a vacation trip to Aruba.  The man she was last seen is the prime suspect.  But there's no body.  Does that mean there's no legal case?

That's how it played out more than six years ago when Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway vanished on a graduation trip to Aruba.  She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with local teen Joran van der Sloot.  Despite repeated questioning by Aruban authorities...and despite a variety of later-denied versions of what happened that night...van der Sloot was never charged.

An eerily similar scenario is playing out now in the case of Robyn Gardner of suburban Washington, DC. Perhaps the biggest difference is the zeal with which Aruban authorities are pursuing the investigation involving her travelling companion, Gary Giordano.  His lawyers have even blamed the Holloway case for the intensity of the efforts against their client.

But, so far, those investigative efforts are reaching the same result as in Natalee's case....nothing tangible.  A search of the island by cadaver dogs this week has turned up nothing.  Here's the Associated Press report from Aruba.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba October 8, 2011 (AP)
A team of cadaver dogs summoned to help search for the remains of a Maryland woman reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba are leaving the island without finding any clues, officials said Friday.

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« Reply #842 on: October 08, 2011, 07:06:32 PM »

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Cadaver-dogs-find-nothing-in-Aruba-search/vFUV2awIRkGJNxQSV65A8Q.cspx

Cadaver dogs find nothing in Aruba search
October 8, 2011 - 4:18 PM

"We have other lines of investigation," Aruban Prosecutor Taco Stein

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  An American tourist disappears on a vacation trip to Aruba.  The man she was last seen is the prime suspect.  But there's no body.  Does that mean there's no legal case?

That's how it played out more than six years ago when Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway vanished on a graduation trip to Aruba.  She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with local teen Joran van der Sloot.  Despite repeated questioning by Aruban authorities...and despite a variety of later-denied versions of what happened that night...van der Sloot was never charged.

An eerily similar scenario is playing out now in the case of Robyn Gardner of suburban Washington, DC. Perhaps the biggest difference is the zeal with which Aruban authorities are pursuing the investigation involving her travelling companion, Gary Giordano.  His lawyers have even blamed the Holloway case for the intensity of the efforts against their client.

But, so far, those investigative efforts are reaching the same result as in Natalee's case....nothing tangible.  A search of the island by cadaver dogs this week has turned up nothing.  Here's the Associated Press report from Aruba.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba October 8, 2011 (AP)
A team of cadaver dogs summoned to help search for the remains of a Maryland woman reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba are leaving the island without finding any clues, officials said Friday.

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BOYCOTT THE SUCKERS - DON'T GO TO THAT ISLAND - YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!!!!!


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« Reply #843 on: October 08, 2011, 07:07:17 PM »

thank u graceland for the articles mucho appreciated
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« Reply #844 on: October 08, 2011, 07:10:02 PM »


I just saw your avi and it made me crack up - love the ring in your nose and a bell on your toe ho ho!

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« Reply #845 on: October 08, 2011, 07:14:43 PM »

p. 40 - Kalpoes have NOT turned over ALL chat/text msg regarding John Charles Croes.


Dr. Phil wants all information/documents regarding ANY THIRD PARTY FINANCIALS interest!!!!

Just look at who Arlene Ellis-Shipper is working for.


Piece it together - it's like this the ham bone Arlene is connected to the shine bone Caribean Mercantile Bank
which is connected to Paulus van der Sloot who deposited his son's winnings on the morning that his son was interrogated
about Natalee Holloway................is connected to Mafia. Yep folks and where do you think Dr. Phil's attorney's can find
ALL legal documents? Inside Paulus van der Sloot's hidey hole! He's dead he don't need em now does he, but he had access
to all the documents!


Fix sp. per Kermie's request.  MB

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« Reply #846 on: October 08, 2011, 07:15:44 PM »

oh dear - can someone fix those pesky spelling errors. .....danki mucho dinero   Done.  De nada.  MB
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« Reply #847 on: October 08, 2011, 07:16:49 PM »

PAGE 53 - THIS IS WHY THEY ARE WITHHOLDING INFORMATION - there are documents in which
the suspects admitted to having sex with Natalee!!!!
They are HIDING 38 statements of Joran's!!!!!

PAGE 62 - "DAVID KOCK STATES: I HAVE A DUTY TO MAINTAIN THE SECRECY OF THE CASE AND MY FIRM'S
CRIMINAL FILE"


Fix typo.  MB
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« Reply #848 on: October 08, 2011, 07:18:11 PM »

Page 77 "We also know that there were heavy electronic communications traffic between the three
suspects the day of Natalee's disappearance.

page 98 the copy of the court record - there is communication between Satish and Deepak and
third parties!!!!

DEEPAK - THIS IS THE AMERICAN COURT SYSTEM AND YOU'RE SCREWED! You tool!

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« Reply #849 on: October 08, 2011, 07:21:11 PM »

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Kalpoe attorney's!!!!!!

p. 45 - Nancy's email to Josh (kalpoe attorney) tells him to send the information or else
she will file this motion and she did file it! HA HA HA.

a two-bit lawyer like Baez could do a better job messing up then you tools! HA HA HA HA HA
just my opinion that is.

 
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« Reply #850 on: October 08, 2011, 09:20:12 PM »

Continent    :    Europe
Country    :    Netherlands  (Facts)
State/Region    :    Noord-Holland
City    :    Amsterdam
Continent    :    Europe
search words: Joran tattoo

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« Reply #851 on: October 08, 2011, 09:21:34 PM »


from Joran's facebook


source: June 14, 2005 Joran statement to Jan van der Straten
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=175
5.02.2006
Leaked report shows that
Joran declared that Deepak Kalpoe raped and killed Natalee
DIARIO Aruba
05/02/2006
“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”
 

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« Reply #852 on: October 08, 2011, 09:27:37 PM »



Cremer represented Hotel Royal Playacar,Which is owned by Occidental Hotel Management,which owns the Occidental Grand Aruba!
 
OCCIDENTAL HOTELS MANAGEMENT
Edmund J. Siegert, Chicago, IL, (Cremer Kopon Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, argued the cause for appellant Hotel Royal Playacar, S.A. de C.V. (McDermott & McGee, attorneys;  Thomas A. Wester, Milburn, and Joshua D. Yeager (Cremer, Kopon, Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, on the brief
 
Occidental Grand Aruba
http://www.occidentalhotels.com/occidental/DestinationAruba.asp


Westbrook defends against claims brought by Occidental Hotels related to $400 million sale of Allegro Resorts
http://www.jonesday.com/experiencepractices/ExperienceDetail.aspx?experienceid=26036


Allegro Resorts Corporation Announces Investment By Westbrook Partners And GE Capital
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Allegro+Resorts+Corporation+Announces+Investment+By+Westbrook...-a019459870


Natalee Case Discussion #757 6/8 - 6/14/08
... Aruba Resort & Spa, Andres Pichardo-Occidental Grand Aruba, ... Is this the same Anky Bruin that is involved in the Luis Mansur case? ...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2898.160 - 111k - Cach F



Many hotels have gotten new owners, new management and new names: the Caribbean Hotel became theGolden Tulip Hotel and is now the Radisson Aruba Resort. The Concorde Hotel became the Hilton, after that the Wyndham and is now called Westin Aruba Beach Resort. The Swain Resort was taken over by De Veer’s META Corporation and became part of the Sonesta Resort. The Sonesta Resort for its part got a new management company later and is now the Renaissance Aruba Resort. The malls and the reef island that are part of it carry the same name too. The Americana became the Allegro Resort and now operates under the name of Occidental Grand Aruba; the Sheraton was renamed the Aruba Grand before undergoing a true metamorphosis: it is now a part of the prestigious Riu Palace.
http://www.historiadiaruba.aw/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=39&lang=en

DJ Runo Cortez Great party with class! The Sound Lounge Bar @ Occidental Grand Hotel, Aruba was really the perfect place to host this party. Especially with the nice models Ronchi brought!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/DJ-Runo-Cortez/108194334164

The SECURITY GUARDS WERE ARRESTED - WORKED FOR ALLEGRO HOTEL.

 

AHATA’s connection to Marlene Purcell
and JORAN VAN DER SLOOT ATTORNEY AND PAULUS VAN DER SLOOTS LAW PARTNER -lawyer Antonio Carlo:

 
Board members voted in are businessman Eduardo de Veer, Renaissance/Meta Corp; Banker Bill Carson, Caribbean Mercantile Bank;(ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER IS ON BOARD AT CMB)
hotelier Scott Allen, Hyatt Regency; Director Peter Steinmetz, Aruba Airport Authority; Public Relations official David Smith, Valero Oil Refinery, Lisette Malmberg, De Palm Tours and hotelier Werner Hein, Occidental Resort. The election process was assisted by Dr. Ryan Peterson, Universidad di Aruba, attorney Antonio Carlo and Marlene Purcell, Salamander Holdings under the supervision of consultant Jaap Beaujon. The new board is seen here in the picture with members of the outgoing board and Jorge Pesquera AHATA’s President and CEO.
http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
 

Past Events Switzerland | AmCham Switzerland
Werner J. Hein Senior Counsel, Mayer Brown LLP. Venue: SIX Swiss Exchange Ltd, Selnaustrasse 30, 8021 Zurich. June 29, 2010, Zurich, Schweizer KMUs in den ...
http://www.amcham.ch/events/p_past_events_ch.asp - 289k - Cached

The lecture, dedicated to the memory of my father, Kong Ming Cheung, 
was extremely successful.  We had about 450 people attend, more than four times as many as the previous lecture at the Universidad di Aruba in 2006. We were supposed to speak for two hours, but it lasted more than 3 hours due to the many excellent questions from the audience.  It was a fun evening. Many thanks to Peter Cheung (graphics), 
Rosalie Klein (public relations), 
Jesus Cardoso & Janith Agunbero (Occidental Grand Aruba), 
Prographics (posters), and ECA NV (radio spots).
http://www.edcheung.com/album/album09/aua2/aua.htm



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So Cremer has represented OCCIDENTAL HOTELS. LOOKING at who is manager of Occidental Hotels reveals the following


PRESIDENT OF ARUBA HOTEL SECURITY FOUNDATION
BOARD OF DIRECTOR OF AHATA
GENERAL MANAGER OF OCCIDENTAL GRAND ARUBA



Jesus Cardoso, President of the Aruba Hotel Security Foundation (AHSF) co-financed by the course, explains why.
"There is a chance that hotels be held liable should it go wrong. It will therefore be found where a legal structure to protect the hotels.
"Another problem is lack of money. AHSF namely to establish such a separate organization than the use of lifeguards will govern. This requires more funds to be recruited, says Cardoso. He says the two drowning cases regrettable. Not long ago there were in his way even lifeguards by the popular beach resorts were watching. The reason why these are no longer there, do not Cardoso.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8277.300

POSTED BY: texasmom
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6448.1360
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Resort General Manager Jesus Cardoso-González


http://www.ahata.com/AboutUs/BoardOfDirectors.aspx
Jesus Cardoso-Gonzalez - General Manager Occidental Grand Aruba
on the Board of Directors for AHATA


Occidental Hotels
CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
Strawinskylaan 1725
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland 1077 Netherlands


KALPOES ARE NOT PAYING THEIR OWN ATTORNEYS - refer to the Motions filed in Dr. Phil case
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« Reply #853 on: October 08, 2011, 09:28:32 PM »



http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b53983_Ex-Holloway_Suspects_Sue_Dr_Phil.html
The show's producer, Paramount Studios, slammed the lawsuit. "We stand by the integrity of the Dr. Phil show, our editing process and the accuracy of the program that we aired. We will vigorously defend against these baseless claims."
<snip>
In a parting shot in its statement, Paramount says, "We also intend to discover who or what has motivated this lawsuit from the Kalpoe brothers, two of the primary suspects in Natalee’s disappearance and two of the last people seen driving away with her in their car."

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b53983_Ex-Holloway_Suspects_Sue_Dr_Phil.html#ixzz12ws1Zr50
Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b53983_Ex-Holloway_Suspects_Sue_Dr_Phil.html#ixzz12wra7fma

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« Reply #854 on: October 08, 2011, 09:29:08 PM »

SATISH?

Cell: 297-594-6287
Home: 297-585-9322

Employer of Deepak: Top Drive Car Rental
Alto Vista 129, Aruba

Rene Van Nie is his boss.




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« Reply #855 on: October 08, 2011, 09:30:10 PM »


from Joran's facebook

blow up the photo and look at what it says on his glasses
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« Reply #856 on: October 08, 2011, 11:45:18 PM »

Been busy this evening and may have already been posted:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iOykNmMzUmqy3ET3Rx6FlpnApaWA?docId=CNG.35938e723ad2fcbcb70c6292de0e98b4.981

Peru court nixes Van der Sloot habeas corpus bid

(AFP) – 5 hours ago

LIMA — Peru's constitutional court on Saturday rejected a bid for release of Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot pending investigation into charges he killed a young local student last year.

Van der Sloot, who is accused of May 2010 murder of 21-year-old Stephany Flores, claimed in seeking release that his procedural rights were violated.

The court, however, found his complaint without merit.

Van der Sloot also remains the lead suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, a US tourist who was 18 when she went missing in Aruba in 2005.

In the Peru case, he had initially pleaded guilty, but then claimed that his confession was extorted. He then said he killed Flores under extreme emotional anger after Flores accessed files about Holloway on his computer.

Flores was killed on the same day -- May 30 -- of Holloway's disappearance five years earlier in Aruba. Flores was found dead in a Lima hotel.

Van der Sloot was twice arrested in the Holloway case and spent three months in jail but was never charged. Holloway's body has never been found.

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« Reply #857 on: October 08, 2011, 11:52:51 PM »


from Joran's facebook


source: June 14, 2005 Joran statement to Jan van der Straten
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=175
5.02.2006
Leaked report shows that
Joran declared that Deepak Kalpoe raped and killed Natalee
DIARIO Aruba
05/02/2006
“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”
 




I read that "the two dogs" is a bad translation and should be "the Honda", but IDK
It would sure make more sense.   Two dogs never made sense to me.
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« Reply #858 on: October 09, 2011, 12:14:17 AM »

Some of the Joran supporters have tried to claim bad translations .  In this case, it was a statement made by Jan van der Straten.  He was saying what Joran told him.  Van der Straten is dutch and would have given his statement in Dutch so it wouldn't be translated from Pap to Dutch then to English.  It is a simple translation from Dutch to English and these words are pretty straight forward.  I don't think it was literally dogs though, I think it was Deepak came with two friends or two others or two of his lowly friends.


TWEE HONDEN = TWO DOGS

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=175.msg31677#msg31677


P.S.  I'm not suggesting you (Magnolia) are a Joran supporter 
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« Reply #859 on: October 09, 2011, 12:37:59 AM »

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10694192/__Bekentenis_Joran_blijft_staan__.html

Thru translator:
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