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« Reply #840 on: June 16, 2011, 01:11:21 PM »

some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....
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« Reply #841 on: June 16, 2011, 01:11:27 PM »

I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it? 

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

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But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that

I know, I was wondering what the confusion was on here?

 
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« Reply #842 on: June 16, 2011, 01:12:13 PM »

I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it? 

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



Putting this all a side. And the circus continues.
Back to who killed  Caylee.

Who was the last one seen with Caylee?
Who only used the car in question?
Who partied for 31 days?
Who did NOT call police ever?
Who lied, lied and lied?
Who made newer, bigger and better lies as this case went on?

 
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« Reply #843 on: June 16, 2011, 01:12:25 PM »

I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it? 

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that


Why?  This is crazy!!
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« Reply #844 on: June 16, 2011, 01:14:17 PM »

I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it? 

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

Listen again - that's not precisely what he said. Ashton is a trickster... a very clever guy... good thing he's a white hat.
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« Reply #845 on: June 16, 2011, 01:16:03 PM »

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!!
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


oooppppssss well I am glad my thoughts are in line with yours I went to take a shower and all hell broke loose.....I got a little miffed at JP talking to JA in that fashion!!   
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« Reply #846 on: June 16, 2011, 01:17:11 PM »

I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it? 

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that


Why?  This is crazy!!

Because it was testimony that MIGHT have been inflammatory and inadmissable. The judge wanted to hear what was going to be said BEFORE he allowed the jury to hear it. As for the paternity test -- the Prosecution cannot submit DURING the Defense's case.
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« Reply #847 on: June 16, 2011, 01:17:21 PM »

some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....
I know what you are saying....but yesterday when LDB said that the relationship between Cindy and Casey was the motive....I have to think that the fight will be brought up.  I haven't seen where their relationship was delved into.....except for Amy's comments.  IDK
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« Reply #848 on: June 16, 2011, 01:19:06 PM »

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!!
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


oooppppssss well I am glad my thoughts are in line with yours I went to take a shower and all hell broke loose.....I got a little miffed at JP talking to JA in that fashion!!   
Well, to be fair to CJBP.....JA is sort of a loose cannon today.  He is almost yelling his objections.  His passion is carrying him away, imo.
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« Reply #849 on: June 16, 2011, 01:21:58 PM »

I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it? 

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

Listen again - that's not precisely what he said. Ashton is a trickster... a very clever guy... good thing he's a white hat.

At 5:50 baez says Caylee was not the offspring of lee anthony
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« Reply #850 on: June 16, 2011, 01:22:11 PM »

Listen again - that's not precisely what he said. Ashton is a trickster... a very clever guy... good thing he's a white hat.
I do agree with you, but a trickster in a good sort of way, at least I hope so when all is said and done.  I wonder also tho, if he wouldn't play a different game if he wasn't up against the slimy tactics of the defense?
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« Reply #851 on: June 16, 2011, 01:23:47 PM »

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!!
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


The State could stop it lickity split .... George and Lee could stop it lickity split ... IF conclusive paternity tests were submitted to the court as evidence.

Janet 

true Janet, but Caylee's paternity is not a factor in this case.
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« Reply #852 on: June 16, 2011, 01:24:24 PM »

While under oath why was George, Cindy and Lee not questioned by the prosecutor regarding the alleged confrontation that occurred on the evening of June 15th.  Why was Jesse not called as a State's witness in regards to this issue.

Cindy's testified unchallenged that that evening of June 15th was special ... a time of bonding with Caylee and Casey.  Considering Cindy had learned earlier in the day from her mother that Casey had been stealing from her Grandfather ... I don't think so.

Could it be that this alleged fight between Cindy and Casey was the catalyst to what followed on June 16th?

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Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
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The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

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« Reply #853 on: June 16, 2011, 01:26:53 PM »

Id love to take that easel and tablet and shove it right up his stanky azz   

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« Reply #854 on: June 16, 2011, 01:27:12 PM »

some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....
I know what you are saying....but yesterday when LDB said that the relationship between Cindy and Casey was the motive....I have to think that the fight will be brought up.  I haven't seen where their relationship was delved into.....except for Amy's comments.  IDK

Yep and I forgot to add that to the list of things that  seem to have fallen a tad short.....I sure hope all this is clear up and finished on rebuttal.
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« Reply #855 on: June 16, 2011, 01:27:27 PM »

I guarantee we haven't seen anything yet.  Baez will try every sleazy trick he can.  He must have taken the term "morally bankrupt" from his own bio.  Once an ambulance chaser always an ambulance chaser.

 
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« Reply #856 on: June 16, 2011, 01:29:42 PM »


I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


oooppppssss well I am glad my thoughts are in line with yours I went to take a shower and all hell broke loose.....I got a little miffed at JP talking to JA in that fashion!!   
Well, to be fair to CJBP.....JA is sort of a loose cannon today.  He is almost yelling his objections.  His passion is carrying him away, imo.

LOL...I know....But I love Jeff's passion and JP is soooooooooooooo patient with JB and Mason.....I would like to see him a little more accepting of Jeff's passion....(hey, I am a tad prejudiced towards Jeff) Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #857 on: June 16, 2011, 01:29:57 PM »

Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

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George & Lee were EXCLUDED after testing due to what Jesse Grund & Tony L said in their statements to LE.

No - neither of them were excluded according to a specialist in DNA. (my sister in law)  FBI just said the same thing on the stand.

I thought only Lee submitted DNA for purposes to include a paternity test among other items, but they didn't test GA's DNA for Paternity...also, in the FBI documents it states Lee Anthony is NOT the father and can be excluded. I just read the report 3 nights ago, and will go find it again since I must be losing my mind.

Also IIRC, last week we were talking about Chlorine in salt water pools....their is always chlorine in even salt water pools due to the way the breakdown of chemicals. I can't remember who all was talking about it, but thought it was you , me and CBB......
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« Reply #858 on: June 16, 2011, 01:31:37 PM »

Id love to take that easel and tablet and shove it right up his stanky azz   

I've been thinking about this all morning.   Monkey Devil!

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« Reply #859 on: June 16, 2011, 01:32:04 PM »

I guarantee we haven't seen anything yet.  Baez will try every sleazy trick he can.  He must have taken the term "morally bankrupt" from his own bio.  Once an ambulance chaser always an ambulance chaser.

 

I agree.....we have only just begun!!
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