Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11

[beth1970]

If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?

Exactly

yep!  And the garbage bags, and the needle  puleez grasping grasping grasping

[beth1970]

Probably been posted before but interesting backround article on JP;
http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Orlando-Magazine/April-2011/Order-in-His-Court/

I haven't seen it - thanks!

[StarMonkey]

Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering

July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..

[StarMonkey]

If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?

Exactly

yep!  And the garbage bags, and the needle  puleez grasping grasping grasping

Yea there would be no court then..

[beth1970]

Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering

July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..

down right odd "family" if you ask me.  Everytime I hear Lee's "C-M-A" speech it gives me the willies.  I still don't think George molested her but man they could have nipped this whole thing in the bud by controlling her YEARS ago!  I don't believe in spanking (because I was abused) but let me say my 2 year old does not rule my roost (even though we spoil her)! 

Years ago my college roommate's sister tried to kill her whole family by leaving the gas on & closing the house up.  Why?  She wanted their rv to run off with her boyfriend.  She was the baby of the family and same thing.  They always made excuses for her, covered up her lies & mistakes and let her walk all over them.  The cable guy or some service worker found them and saved their lives.  The police investigated and the mother took the blame saying she slept walk and must have done it.  The father went along with it.  My roommate was afraid to go home that summer & ended up taking summer classes so she wouldn't have to!   The Ants remind me alot of them!

[alagary]

snip

 Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?

How many people are following this case?  Attention grabber for the future,
you think?
 

people will sell their souls these days just to be on tv!

Or get in fights while standing in line.

[StarMonkey]

Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..

[beth1970]

Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..

too bad there's not a test for pure evil!

[beth1970]

snip

 Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?

How many people are following this case?  Attention grabber for the future,
you think?
 

people will sell their souls these days just to be on tv!

Or get in fights while standing in line.

I can't believe those two guys actually thought they could cut line & those die hard "fans?" would let them get away with it.  I'm surprised that marker lady didn't jab their eyes out with her Sharpie

[StarMonkey]

Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering

July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..

down right odd "family" if you ask me.  Everytime I hear Lee's "C-M-A" speech it gives me the willies.  I still don't think George molested her but man they could have nipped this whole thing in the bud by controlling her YEARS ago!  I don't believe in spanking (because I was abused) but let me say my 2 year old does not rule my roost (even though we spoil her)! 

Years ago my college roommate's sister tried to kill her whole family by leaving the gas on & closing the house up.  Why?  She wanted their rv to run off with her boyfriend.  She was the baby of the family and same thing.  They always made excuses for her, covered up her lies & mistakes and let her walk all over them.  The cable guy or some service worker found them and saved their lives.  The police investigated and the mother took the blame saying she slept walk and must have done it.  The father went along with it.  My roommate was afraid to go home that summer & ended up taking summer classes so she wouldn't have to!   The Ants remind me alot of them!

Thank God for the cable guy! Yea seems like they covered up for Casey too much.
Cindy could have put a fraud alert on her credits cards Or something!
And LEE boy you said it!!! That speech he gave was meant for Casey and was bizarre!!!
Like the whole family...
Seems like the Anthonys all lived like NOT real emotions.. fake even to eachother.
Very dysfunctional..

[flutter1]

I watched bug boy's testimony. As a layperson with a non science background I could see how his grade 5 science project was flawed. I am amazed that a so called educated person like bug boy did that project with the pig in a trunk and tried to sell that mess in the trunk as a recreation of what happened in Casey's trunk.
Watching Mr. Ashton smack him down with the pig in a blanket remark and more was the best thing I've seen in this case for a while.
And I did see Casey laugh along with the whole thing, right in front of the jury.
..
What is appalling to me is that this crap that these experts spew is allowed.
..
Rodriguez is smarter and has more experience than bug boy and why would someone like that get involved with this trial ? I don't like that LKB seems to have a gang of these " experts" whose purpose is to throw a F*** into evidence and trials at her disposal. When she became involved, I did expect to see her gang show up, but I still am amazed that this crap goes on. Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?     

I agree that BugBoy's experiment was juvenile at best.  Too many factors were overlooked and protocols ignored.  I already mentioned the fact  of the lack of a controlled environment, ie using salvage cars versus unused cars.  I have also been considering the construction/type of the vehicles.  BugBoy said the flies migrated into the passenger compartment of his vehicle.  Is  this common in the UT tests?  I can see that a vehicle like my husband's Jetta, in which the backseats folddown allowing access to the trunk would allow much easier migration of the flies than a vehicle with a more resistant barrier between the trunk and the backseatI 

[StarMonkey]

Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..

too bad there's not a test for pure evil!

You got that right. I hope the jury sees the truth..
I think they will...
Baez defense is a joke...

[beth1970]

Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering

July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..

down right odd "family" if you ask me.  Everytime I hear Lee's "C-M-A" speech it gives me the willies.  I still don't think George molested her but man they could have nipped this whole thing in the bud by controlling her YEARS ago!  I don't believe in spanking (because I was abused) but let me say my 2 year old does not rule my roost (even though we spoil her)! 

Years ago my college roommate's sister tried to kill her whole family by leaving the gas on & closing the house up.  Why?  She wanted their rv to run off with her boyfriend.  She was the baby of the family and same thing.  They always made excuses for her, covered up her lies & mistakes and let her walk all over them.  The cable guy or some service worker found them and saved their lives.  The police investigated and the mother took the blame saying she slept walk and must have done it.  The father went along with it.  My roommate was afraid to go home that summer & ended up taking summer classes so she wouldn't have to!   The Ants remind me alot of them!

Thank God for the cable guy! Yea seems like they covered up for Casey too much.
Cindy could have put a fraud alert on her credits cards Or something!
And LEE boy you said it!!! That speech he gave was meant for Casey and was bizarre!!!
Like the whole family...
Seems like the Anthonys all lived like NOT real emotions.. fake even to eachother.
Very dysfunctional..

You know what - that is a great way of saying it Not Real or fake emotions.  I think they also have this us against the world & everyone is out to get us mentality. 

If casey had such a great job (in Cindy's mind) why would she need to steal money.  She didn't pay rent, she didn't buy groceries, as you guys have shown me she didn't pay for that baby's medical, she didn't buy Caylee's clothes, she didn't pay for car insurance.  Where did they think her money went?  The first think I would think of was drugs - so why didn't they call the police after a week of not seeing Caylee and a daughter out of control hanging out with druggies?  My mind would be going to some dark places & I would be driving to the police station.  If it were just Casey that's one thing but their precious granddaughter was involved!

[Kat_Gram]

Bug Boy's experiment rendered the car useless as it could never be cleaned up enough.
The conditions were not the same as he didn't triple bag the pig or wrap it in a blanket.
Plus the climate differences and the different type of vehicle.
With all his education, why was this the best he could do ?
It was an attempt at a hoax. After all of his jibber jabber and the drawing of little pictures and the maggots, ugh , that was what I took away from his entire testimony.   
Poor bug boy, how is he going to live that one down ?

[SunnyinTX]

#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)

Klaas - TY

For all that work!  It's very interesting that the information was changed in 2010....this could lead to something...I sure hope Ashton, et al, are checking this out.

thanks for all the info on Rodriguez......it was clear from the get go he had an agenda with his opening statement that he was an unpaid consultant..and now we know he is an unpaid asswipe..

[karenmamo]

Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering

July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..

Considering how early on Cindy wrote this I am still surprised at how she wrote about her guilt.
"...All I am guilty of is ..."
Now where is that speech analysis person when you want her?

[KCJackie]

Probably been posted before but interesting backround article on JP;
http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Orlando-Magazine/April-2011/Order-in-His-Court/

  Thanks for posting alagary!  Great article!

[theboyzmom]

Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..

too bad there's not a test for pure evil!

There is  - the Hare test for Psychopathy.  http://www.hare.org/  But since psychopathy is not treatable, and often gets worse with treatment, it is not an illness.

[texasmom]

#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)

Thanks Klaas!  I KNEW something was up with that wiki page! 

 

[mizjay]

#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)

Klaas - TY

For all that work!  It's very interesting that the information was changed in 2010....this could lead to something...I sure hope Ashton, et al, are checking this out.

thanks for all the info on Rodriguez......it was clear from the get go he had an agenda with his opening statement that he was an unpaid consultant..and now we know he is an unpaid asswipe..

More thanks from me too for all the research on Rodriguez.  If he embellished his status with The Body farm it's important. Jurors aren't stupid, they will be able to connect the dots that the guy is willing to pump up his credentials and lie on the stand about something that is unnecessary. His work in the field would have been sufficient to establish his testimony but by having yet another witness that is skirting the truth on any issue taints the validity of anything else he might say.
I hope the SAO gets to the bottom of it.