Lively Case Discussion #602 4/17 - 4/21/2007

[klaasend]

Hello Monkeys.
Saturday morning here.  Yippee!!!

Klaas - you have an email

Anna - loved the pups pics.  Adorable.
When we travelled in Asia the cab drivers there would fight amongst themselves as to who got the tourists.  Pushing, shoving and shouting.
Then they would almost manhandle the chosen tourists to their cab.  Very frightening and was the same everywhere you went.  If you hired a driver to do all your driving as we did, he then had to shoo away all the other drivers which were gathered at every tourist spot, and shout "My tourists"  They used ordinary cars and rarely looked like a recognisable cab.

Will have to check it later, can't look right now.....sorry

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Well ... my sister-in-law just got up from a short nap following a very nice lunch at a local Japanese Restaurant and ... I am going to set up the Scrabble boards for a serious game ... maybe two.  I need a new Scrabble dictionary ... the one I have is falling apart.  I may take a few minutes and tape back in some the pages that have fallen out.

I sure hope there is some updates coming out of Aruba soon.  

Later, Janet

Have a good night Janet.  Have a great time
 I am ready to throw my kid through a wall here..   What a fun night for me.    

[San]

Well, I don't think she would have left with any of them but that she was drugged.  I think she might have had a drink which made her vulnerable, and she went back in to find her friends, who were by now gone and she was dazed and Deepak was handy, and she had no way to turn, no way to hide.  She was trapped like a caged animal.

Tyler - I'm going to highlight your whole post because I agree with everything you said.  In my opinion this is exactly what happened.  She would not have left with any of them.  Deepak was proud of himself how easy it was to get Natalee.  He even says it on the Skeeters tape.  Like you said Natalee never had a chance.

[MuffyBee]

Well ... my sister-in-law just got up from a short nap following a very nice lunch at a local Japanese Restaurant and ... I am going to set up the Scrabble boards for a serious game ... maybe two.  I need a new Scrabble dictionary ... the one I have is falling apart.  I may take a few minutes and tape back in some the pages that have fallen out.

I sure hope there is some updates coming out of Aruba soon.  

Later, Janet

Have a good night Janet.  Have a great time
 I am ready to throw my kid through a wall here..   What a fun night for me.    

Take a deep breath Angie and count to ten--.  Sometimes the kiddo's can just about get to you.  Hang in there.  Sometimes when they are pushing you the hardest, you need to love them the most.  (wishing I could take my own advice )

[2NJSons_Mom]

MuffyBee..Sometimes when they are pushing you the hardest, you need to love them the most. (wishing I could take my own advice  )

This can apply to kids and other adults in our lives...at least in mine.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Well ... my sister-in-law just got up from a short nap following a very nice lunch at a local Japanese Restaurant and ... I am going to set up the Scrabble boards for a serious game ... maybe two.  I need a new Scrabble dictionary ... the one I have is falling apart.  I may take a few minutes and tape back in some the pages that have fallen out.

I sure hope there is some updates coming out of Aruba soon.  

Later, Janet

Have a good night Janet.  Have a great time
 I am ready to throw my kid through a wall here..   What a fun night for me.    

Take a deep breath Angie and count to ten--.  Sometimes the kiddo's can just about get to you.  Hang in there.  Sometimes when they are pushing you the hardest, you need to love them the most.  (wishing I could take my own advice )

 Oh Muffy..  he is beyond coutning to 10 anymore.
 I love him.. I do.. and he has such a bad attitude..  I walked into his room and he ran..  I told him I will give him an attitude adjustment myself. he said I'll call the cops?  ROFL..  he forgets I worked at 911 and dealt with this crap with teens.    I  have tryed to help hom as much as I can.. and dont know what to do any longer. he is failing school.. and I HATE that.. he is a smart kid.    used to be straight A's,, and if he got a B he would be upset? Now he dont care?  He trys to make me feel guilty cause I work.    When I dont work he is fine.. when I have a job, hes a brat on wheels. I am to the point i told him.. if he fails his junior year in school.. thats HIS fauly. not mine. Let the kids make fun of him next yr when he should be a senior.    

[Angiex911dsptchr]

MuffyBee..Sometimes when they are pushing you the hardest, you need to love them the most. (wishing I could take my own advice  )

This can apply to kids and other adults in our lives...at least in mine.

  Amen 2NJ

[Tibrogargan]

Klaas - no hurry.  I know you are busy.

My internet keeps dropping out again this morning.    
So if I disappear again.........

*******  my guess on the evil postings about Natalee and beth so early in the case would be Renfro and her gang of evil elves.

Also I remember there was a report of girls on a scuba trip and it was proved to be another school not MB.  Is this the same report or am I confused?  Again??

[San]

These are the two biggest criminals in the drugging of American tourists Deepak and Freddy.  They are both older and have the most experience.  Notice how they were spotted in CnC's together after Natalee was missing.  Deepak nearly fainted when he saw the camera on him.  Freddy is as violent as Joran.

[bleachedblack]

I'm back Monks, had to pick up daughter from lacrosse, and then run a few erands. Glad to see everyone behaving. Klaas runs a tight ship.  

[Tibrogargan]

You got that right, San.  Nasty pieces of work the pair of them.
They had the taxi pick-up well rehearsed from the 20 times before.

Who was the one that was an altar boy or something like that at the local church?

[Patti]

These are the two biggest criminals in the drugging of American tourists Deepak and Freddy.  They are both older and have the most experience.  Notice how they were spotted in CnC's together after Natalee was missing.  Deepak nearly fainted when he saw the camera on him.  Freddy is as violent as Joran.

San:

Where were they at?  Is that Freddie with the head band?

[Tibrogargan]

Hi bb - that hat suits your luxurious long locks.  

[San]

You got that right, San.  Nasty pieces of work the pair of them.
They had the taxi pick-up well rehearsed from the 20 times before.

Who was the one that was an altar boy or something like that at the local church?

The alter boy was Freddy.

[Tibrogargan]

You got that right, San.  Nasty pieces of work the pair of them.
They had the taxi pick-up well rehearsed from the 20 times before.

Who was the one that was an altar boy or something like that at the local church?

The alter boy was Freddy.

Thanks, San.  I thought it was Freddy but decided I would ask and not appear a total dill    

[San]

You got that right, San.  Nasty pieces of work the pair of them.
They had the taxi pick-up well rehearsed from the 20 times before.

Who was the one that was an altar boy or something like that at the local church?

The alter boy was Freddy.

Thanks, San.  I thought it was Freddy but decided I would ask and not appear a total dill    

You are not a dill

[Tibrogargan]

You got that right, San.  Nasty pieces of work the pair of them.
They had the taxi pick-up well rehearsed from the 20 times before.

Who was the one that was an altar boy or something like that at the local church?

The alter boy was Freddy.

Thanks, San.  I thought it was Freddy but decided I would ask and not appear a total dill    

You are not a dill

Thanks again San.  Sometimes I feel like one  
Next question : Was Freddy the altar boy at the same church where the Priest would not speak with Dave for days?  Has anyone followed up on how involved the church building could have been in the proceedings of that night?

[San]

These are the two biggest criminals in the drugging of American tourists Deepak and Freddy.  They are both older and have the most experience.  Notice how they were spotted in CnC's together after Natalee was missing.  Deepak nearly fainted when he saw the camera on him.  Freddy is as violent as Joran.

San:

Where were they at?  Is that Freddie with the head band?

Freddy is to the right.

[San]

You got that right, San.  Nasty pieces of work the pair of them.
They had the taxi pick-up well rehearsed from the 20 times before.

Who was the one that was an altar boy or something like that at the local church?

The alter boy was Freddy.

Thanks, San.  I thought it was Freddy but decided I would ask and not appear a total dill    

You are not a dill

Thanks again San.  Sometimes I feel like one  
Next question : Was Freddy the altar boy at the same church where the Priest would not speak with Dave for days?  Has anyone followed up on how involved the church building could have been in the proceedings of that night?

I don't know which Church Freddy was the alter boy at.  Klaas would probably know.

[bleachedblack]

Angiex911dsptcher wrote;

Oh Muffy.. he is beyond coutning to 10 anymore. Sad
I love him.. I do.. and he has such a bad attitude.. I walked into his room and he ran.. I told him I will give him an attitude adjustment myself. he said I'll call the cops? ROFL.. he forgets I worked at 911 and dealt with this crap with teens. Rolling Eyes I have tryed to help hom as much as I can.. and dont know what to do any longer. he is failing school.. and I HATE that.. he is a smart kid. Sad used to be straight A's,, and if he got a B he would be upset? Now he dont care? He trys to make me feel guilty cause I work. When I dont work he is fine.. when I have a job, hes a brat on wheels. I am to the point i told him.. if he fails his junior year in school.. thats HIS fauly. not mine. Let the kids make fun of him next yr when he should be a senior.

I can empathize with you Angie. My daughter is a junior also. So much depends on who they hang with it's scary. The pressure on all students is really a major one. When I asked my daughter about her chemistry class there's always another reason for a poor grade." That teacher is boring, that class is stupid, I can't understand a thing that teacher says...." .  I talk to her and remind her when she does graduate,
she's the one ulimately responsible for her grades. All those peeps she is trying to impress will go their own way, and she'll go hers. Sometimes it sinks in, sometimes not.

I did learn from her today is Stoner  Day among students in many areas of the nation. So to all those parents out there-beware the teen with the red glassy eyes , and voracious appetite.