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« Reply #1080 on: June 23, 2011, 12:31:12 AM »

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/22/attorney-casey-anthonys-family-believes-shes-not-innocent/  ::snipping2::

An attorney for Casey Anthony's parents told CNN Wednesday that the Anthonys do not believe their daughter is innocent.

The parents, however, do not want their daughter to receive the death penalty for the killing, said lawyer Mark Lippman.

Well, that is a given - what parent would want to see their child executed? I wonder what time he will change his story tomorrow about them not believing she is innocent.

     He is trying to backtrack now...
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« Reply #1081 on: June 23, 2011, 12:32:26 AM »

Someone may have already posted about this...

From the Danielle Van Dam case, Dr. Rodriguez.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/724909/posts

Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion
Posted on Tue Jul 30 2002 17:58:51 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by FresnoDA

Prosecution witness challenges findings of defense 'bug expert'

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Prosecutors began rebutting the defense insect evidence on Thursday by calling Dr. William C. Rodriguez III, a forensic anthropologist for the Department of Defense, who testified that Danielle's body was in "an advanced state of mummification" that would have delayed insect infestation.
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A snip of Dr. Rodriguez's testimony from the transcript:

http://www.unposted.com/transcript/trial_july_25th_2002_1.shtml

 ::snipping2::
7 Q. DO YOU DO ANY WRITING OR RESEARCH?

8 A. I DO. I PRODUCED MULTIPLE ARTICLES IN THE FIELD OF

9 FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGY, MANY DEALING SPECIFICALLY WITH HUMAN

10 DECOMPOSITIONAL PATTERNS AND RATES AND POSTMORTEM TAPHONOMY.

11 Q. RESEARCH SPECIFICALLY, DO YOU GET INVOLVED IN THAT?

12 A. YES. BASICALLY IN DOING VARIOUS TYPES OF RESEARCH

13 SOME OF MY EARLIEST RESEARCH IN THE FIELD OF HUMAN

14 DECOMPOSITION, WHICH I BELIEVE THE JURY HAS ALREADY HEARD SOME

15 TESTIMONY ON, WAS WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE ANTHROPOLOGIC RESEARCH

16 FACILITY LOCATED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE.

17 Q. THAT'S WHERE YOU WENT TO SCHOOL?

18 A. THAT IS CORRECT.

19 Q. HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN THAT?

20 A. I WAS A GRADUATE STUDENT STUDYING AT THE DEPARTMENT

21 OF ANTHROPOLOGY THAT AT THAT TIME WAS HEADED BY DR. WILLIAM

22 BASS, A VERY WELL NOTED, RESPECTED FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGIST.

23 AT THE TIME HE, AS WELL AS OTHER STUDENTS IN THE

24 DEPARTMENT, HAD A QUESTION ABOUT HOW DO WE TELL TIME SINCE

25 DEATH. IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SUBJECT. AND DR. BASS IN

26 CONVERSATIONS WE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A FACILITY WHERE WE COULD

27 ACTUALLY STUDY FOR THE FIRST TIME THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF

28 DECOMPOSITION.


8652

1 AS UP TO THAT TIME MOST OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE

2 IS BASICALLY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE GONE TO SCENES AND THEIR

3 EXPERIENCE, BUT NO ONE HAS EVER ACTUALLY REALLY CONDUCTED

4 EXPERIMENTS USING HUMAN CADAVERS TO STUDY THE PROCESS OF HUMAN

5 DECOMPOSITION.

6 SO I WAS VERY FORTUNATE AT THE TIME TO BE ONE OF

7 THE SENIOR GRADUATE STUDENTS THERE. DR. BASS ELECTED ME TO WORK

8 AND START THE FIRST PROJECT. SO WE WERE -- I WAS VERY FORTUNATE

9 THERE TO BE THERE FOR THIS PIONEERING RESEARCH.

10 Q. THAT PROGRAM, HAS THAT AT LEAST COMMONLY BECOME

11 KNOWN AS THE "BODY FARM"?

12 A. YES, UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS.
 ::snipping2::


I also noted that he was a paid consultant in this trial ($300 an hour), and he tried to make a statement at the beginning of his testimony about his opinions being his own, not the governments...blah blah blah....he got the same "shut up" unless your asked treatment then too.

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One thing that I found interesting in his testimony is about ants and how they can take away evidence of other insects being there...

 ::snipping2::

1 Q. IF THAT HAPPENS THEN, IF THE ANTS AND BEETLES AND

2 OTHER ANIMALS EAT OR REMOVE THE FLY LARVA AND FLY EGGS, DOES

3 THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON ESTIMATING THROUGH INSECTS HOW LONG THE

4 BODY HAS BEEN THERE OPEN TO THE INSECTS?

5 A. WELL, IT DOES. AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN TWO

6 WAYS. ONE ASPECT THAT WE LOOK AT IT IF WE HAVE ANTS OR FORGING

7 INSECTS FEEDING ON THE BLOW FLY LARVA AND EGGS, THAT'S GOING TO

8 REDUCE THE POPULATION OR IT MAY TOTALLY DECIMATE IT. SO THE

9 POPULATION WE SEE YOU COULD HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME INSECTS THAT

10 HAVE BEEN FEEDING ON A BODY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND ANTS COME

11 IN IN SUFFICIENT NUMBERS AND REMOVE ALL THAT LARVA AND EGGS, AND

12 YOU MAY SEE THAT BODY AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY I HAVE NO BLOW FLY

13 LARVA HERE. I HAVE NO EGGS. BODY MUST HAVE BEEN THERE A VERY

14 SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

15 WELL, IF YOU DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THIS ANT ACTIVITY,

16 THAT BODY HAD ACTUALLY BEEN THERE A LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME.
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« Reply #1082 on: June 23, 2011, 12:32:45 AM »

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/22/attorney-casey-anthonys-family-believes-shes-not-innocent/  ::snipping2::

An attorney for Casey Anthony's parents told CNN Wednesday that the Anthonys do not believe their daughter is innocent.

The parents, however, do not want their daughter to receive the death penalty for the killing, said lawyer Mark Lippman.

Well, that is a given - what parent would want to see their child executed? I wonder what time he will change his story tomorrow about them not believing she is innocent.

     He is trying to backtrack now...

Well that didn't take long. LOL
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« Reply #1083 on: June 23, 2011, 12:33:44 AM »

http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby

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 by RichardHornsby
 #CaseyAnthony Anthony's attorney Mark Lippman disputing statement attributed to him his clients believe Casey "is not innocent"
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« Reply #1084 on: June 23, 2011, 12:35:09 AM »

So what witness does Baez plan on calling first tomorrow?  Anyone know?  

No link but supposedly Cindy per jinkasaurus.
No link but River had to go hospital for "stress"  per Levi Page

If she was sooo stressed out, then why does she insist in being interviewed by the media?

Cindy's up tomorrow?

IIRC - River had a problem last time she was in the public eye and ended up at the hospital.

Anyone else remember it that way?



I "thought" I read she had a seizure disorder. If that is true then stress will bring on seizures, so that may be it. I remember thinking when they said she was going to testify that I hoped she had her meds right or there would sure be some excitement in the court when she started having seizures.

Thanks.  Now that you say it, I seem to remember something about seizures, too. 

Don't get md started with the seizure sh!t bc I KNOW the followup protocol if a true seizure occurred. I've been going through hell with my 9 y/o ever since he had a grand mal at Eastern Nationals the last weekend in April! He has to get an EEG, be seen by a neurologist, then have an MRI of his brain bc epilepsy doesn't run in our families. We went back 10 years trying to figure out if he inherited a recessive gene. They think he had a brain injury bc it showed scarring on his brain...yet he is intelligent & has never even had a B on his report card. Crazy! What I'm getting at is the fact that there would most certainly be follow up protocol if Cadey had a true seizure. Plus, & this is important, the emergency room would have confiscated her license & she would have to see a dr right away, then be seizure free with a doctor's write off on it for 6 months in order for her to get her license back. Yes, that's a law in all states.


Have them check his hippocampus.
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« Reply #1085 on: June 23, 2011, 12:35:41 AM »

If Cindy does take the stand tomorrow I will pray for her...pray that she does the right thing.
I can't imagine having to testify against my daughter but knowing I must for my sweet grandchild.
I would not want to be in her shoes.

Justice for Caylee Marie!

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« Reply #1086 on: June 23, 2011, 12:36:11 AM »

I was just asking. Cause I didn't know if it was ever admited by him
i'm not sure but I don't think he ever did.  i didn't really follow that whole aspect.  Never seem much about her.  I saw the picture of them a few pages back and it didn't look all that personal to me.
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From what I understand - they have chummy text messages back and forth... he also visited her at her condo. The condo complex has a security gate and he's on the visitor logs with a license plate #. Of course, none of this means they were bumping ye ol' uglies... but it sure doesn't make JoJo look good.

But even if they did - it is totally irrelevant to KC murdering Caylee. George is not on trial here.

IMO..2 grifters conning each other
That's exactly my thoughts on them mizjay.  I can't shake the feeling that they'd been at it before we ever knew Caylee Marie Anthony.
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« Reply #1087 on: June 23, 2011, 12:37:00 AM »

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/22/attorney-casey-anthonys-family-believes-shes-not-innocent/  ::snipping2::

An attorney for Casey Anthony's parents told CNN Wednesday that the Anthonys do not believe their daughter is innocent.

The parents, however, do not want their daughter to receive the death penalty for the killing, said lawyer Mark Lippman.

I can understand them not wanting the death penalty.

As a parent, I can too. But if there's ever been anyone to deserve it, sure looks like she fits the bill.
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« Reply #1088 on: June 23, 2011, 12:37:57 AM »

Someone may have already posted about this...

From the Danielle Van Dam case, Dr. Rodriguez.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/724909/posts

Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion
Posted on Tue Jul 30 2002 17:58:51 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by FresnoDA

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6 SO I WAS VERY FORTUNATE AT THE TIME TO BE ONE OF

7 THE SENIOR GRADUATE STUDENTS THERE. DR. BASS ELECTED ME TO WORK

8 AND START THE FIRST PROJECT. SO WE WERE -- I WAS VERY FORTUNATE

9 THERE TO BE THERE FOR THIS PIONEERING RESEARCH.

10 Q. THAT PROGRAM, HAS THAT AT LEAST COMMONLY BECOME

11 KNOWN AS THE "BODY FARM"?

12 A. YES, UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS.
 ::snipping2::




Lets see in 1971 he would have been what age? 9 or 10?  (don't remember what year he was born)


25 DEATH. IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SUBJECT. AND DR. BASS IN

26 CONVERSATIONS WE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A FACILITY WHERE WE COULD

27 ACTUALLY STUDY FOR THE FIRST TIME THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF

28 DECOMPOSITION.
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« Reply #1089 on: June 23, 2011, 12:39:04 AM »

If Cindy does take the stand tomorrow I will pray for her...pray that she does the right thing.
I can't imagine having to testify against my daughter but knowing I must for my sweet grandchild.
I would not want to be in her shoes.

Justice for Caylee Marie!

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« Reply #1090 on: June 23, 2011, 12:40:59 AM »

I have said it before and ... I will say it again ... when it comes to Casey ... the fruit does not fall far from the tree.

Not only did George scam money from River Cruz ... if the entire transcript is read ... it will reveal that these funds were kept a secret from Cindy.  Apparently ... Cindy found out about the money and ... confronted River.  She wanted to know if George was telling the truth regarding her being the source.

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Krystal Holloway aka River Cruz

TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW OF KRYSTAL HOLLOWAY
OCSO CASE NUMBER 08-74777
CONDUCTED BY CORPORAL ERIC EDWARDS
RECORDED FEBRUARY 17, 2010


<snipped>

SA When, when ah, when your sister talked about loyal, when we were at your
house. Ah, and when we first came we.. we told you we wanted to talk to you
and have you tell uh what you knew about this. Urn, you said some things there
that we need to know about... you made ah, you made some comments
everybody hurting you about them taking advantage of you. And money being..
you'd given money and...

KH Yeah.

SA Um, how much money do you think you gave him?

KH About four thousand dollars.

SA Okay. And was this, this money this four thousand dollars it would've been over
how long of a time frame?

KH The whole time.

SA Okay. What was the largest sum of money you gave him at one time?
KH Twelve hundred.

12
Krystal Holloway/



SA Twelve hundred. And did you... why.. why did you give him... I mean what..
what brought you to give him twelve hundred dollars? What.. what.. was there
conversations?

KH Yeah there was.

SA Tell us about that.

KH He told me urn, he couldn't find work. He got laid off he couldn't find work.
Understandably so because he was in the spotlight of the media and nobody
would hire him. And um, he didn't have any funds to eat, to do anything.

SA He told you this?

KH Yeah he did.

<snipped>

13
Krystal Holloway/Case #08-74777/GB


http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/kholloway021710.pdf

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23070163/detail.html




Janet,

Do you "believe" what Crystal says in her transcript?

She said she and George never had an affair.  I just watched her on TV in a interview in which she stated that she DID have an affair with George.  The reporter said that's not what you told the police and she said no it isn't.  The reporter asked her why?  She said that she figured she could tell the police everything they needed to know without going into that detail.

Hello???  She just admitted on TV that she "lied" to the police.  And, was somewhat flippant about doing it, too.

How could anyone ever believe what she says?



please overlook me being judgmental for a second.........

What does this woman do that she has $4k laying around to give her "friend"?  She looks pretty skanky to me!
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« Reply #1091 on: June 23, 2011, 12:41:18 AM »

bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Lippman has just released statement. Neither confirms nor denies "Casey is not innocent" quote attributed to him on @CNN.
33 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing

This makes no sense.
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« Reply #1092 on: June 23, 2011, 12:42:37 AM »

http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby

bobkealingbob kealing

 by RichardHornsby
 #CaseyAnthony Anthony's attorney Mark Lippman disputing statement attributed to him his clients believe Casey "is not innocent"

huh?  what? how could there be confusion?  back peddling maybe.
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« Reply #1093 on: June 23, 2011, 12:42:37 AM »

    I guess I am just shallow and judgmental.  I have trouble with anyone who has one name and then uses another----like "River Cruz" (WTF..is it supposed to be as in "Hey, baby, how'd ya like to go on a River Cruise with me??????????????)  But maybe that's just me.......


This had me rollin...
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« Reply #1094 on: June 23, 2011, 12:42:54 AM »

Great stuff on Rodriguez TM, thank you!
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« Reply #1095 on: June 23, 2011, 12:43:17 AM »

    I guess I am just shallow and judgmental.  I have trouble with anyone who has one name and then uses another----like "River Cruz" (WTF..is it supposed to be as in "Hey, baby, how'd ya like to go on a River Cruise with me??????????????)  But maybe that's just me.......


This had me rollin...

Is that her uh hum "stage" name LOL
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« Reply #1096 on: June 23, 2011, 12:43:25 AM »

bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Lippman has just released statement. Neither confirms nor denies "Casey is not innocent" quote attributed to him on @CNN.
33 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing

This makes no sense.

He won't deny it because they have him on tape for sure.............so like bozo he puts out more useless information.
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« Reply #1097 on: June 23, 2011, 12:43:59 AM »

beth1970 - IIRC Crystal/River won a settlement in some law suit.  I can't recall right now more details on it.  Maybe some one else can remember what the law suit was about.

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« Reply #1098 on: June 23, 2011, 12:44:21 AM »

Great stuff on Rodriguez TM, thank you!

Yes, very interesting depo.
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« Reply #1099 on: June 23, 2011, 12:44:59 AM »

beth1970 - IIRC Crystal/River won a settlement in some law suit.  I can't recall right now more details on it.  Maybe some one else can remember what the law suit was about.



I thought it was a car accident which caused the seizure disorder. Not sure.
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