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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #603 4/21 - 4/25/2007  (Read 149464 times)
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« Reply #420 on: April 24, 2007, 12:47:47 AM »

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The way I see it, if Art Wood REALLY thought the image was Natalee - that we were ON to something - I don't think he would have selected National Enquirer as his forum ...

But on the other hand, it was a great, NE kind of hook, for keeping the story out there.

Apologies if it's Inquirer rather than Enquirer. I just do not pay a bit of attention to the tabloids!


So are you saying that the videos are fake or the filtering that went in
to producing the image through the plastic?


The way I heard it the filtering was done by Scared Monkeys...

And,  copied.

I think it's real... and I also think the videos are real.

But, there may have been a reason that the family were skeptical,
as I would be, too, if it were my daughter.  Maybe the family has
grown less skeptical as time went on.

Does anyone know?

Sleuth said that she gave the pictures that she produced to the family.
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« Reply #421 on: April 24, 2007, 12:48:30 AM »

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You lovely caring Ladies..I hope you fight this hard If I ever go missing Very Happy


Hopefully, you aren't going to go missing any time soon... there's
alot of work to be done...

Smiles to you, *******...

I hope that comment includes me, too.


Smiles to you Very Happy Yeh just got done reading the front page. I really beleave they had all the answer's back in june 2005 and still dave was diggin in that dump and the hell this family has been through. Just infuriates me to all hell!!
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« Reply #422 on: April 24, 2007, 12:48:52 AM »

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The way I see it, if Art Wood REALLY thought the image was Natalee - that we were ON to something - I don't think he would have selected National Enquirer as his forum ...

But on the other hand, it was a great, NE kind of hook, for keeping the story out there.

Apologies if it's Inquirer rather than Enquirer. I just do not pay a bit of attention to the tabloids!


So are you saying that the videos are fake or the filtering that went in
to producing the image through the plastic?


I don't *know* a thing about the videos.

I don't think Blond's photoshopping is trickery intended to mislead.

I think that if Art Wood believed that Natalee's body was in that bag, we wouldn't have heard about it first in that particular media outlet. And also, a whole lot of activity would have been generated.
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« Reply #423 on: April 24, 2007, 12:48:56 AM »

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Shocked   Oh My its getting bad here... Shocked  No tthe forum.. but our weather.
 I NEVER in my life heard the crash like I did a few minutes ago.. it was SO loud.. the whole house shook and lit up.. and now all I hear is sirens.
 I lost my DSL connection. Its back now for the moment. I still hear sirens..  ALOT of'em? Cant tell where the firetrucks are going.  its only sprinkling here right now too?  VERY WEIRD!
  I see my post went thru before I got booted off DSL and AOL both.
  Freaking creepy here in my part of PA  Shocked

Wow Angie - scary stuff
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« Reply #424 on: April 24, 2007, 12:49:04 AM »

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The way I see it, if Art Wood REALLY thought the image was Natalee - that we were ON to something - I don't think he would have selected National Enquirer as his forum ...

But on the other hand, it was a great, NE kind of hook, for keeping the story out there.

Apologies if it's Inquirer rather than Enquirer. I just do not pay a bit of attention to the tabloids!


So are you saying that the videos are fake or the filtering that went in
to producing the image through the plastic?



Not a fake in the context of being deliberately made and planted.  An illusion of the wrinkles in the plastic just as Art says.  It doesn't have to be a fake for us to see things that are not really there.  Remember the example of the illusion?

If this were real, I think the family would have been all over it.  They just aren't.  

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« Reply #425 on: April 24, 2007, 12:52:25 AM »

Angie - maybe a transformer blew, or was hit by lightening?
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« Reply #426 on: April 24, 2007, 12:53:09 AM »

Apologies to Carpe and others but I just dont see anythin conclusive in that Bag. Agreed the whole video is down right peculiar. The rock painting is where all my question's lie.
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« Reply #427 on: April 24, 2007, 12:54:17 AM »

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Apologies to Carpe and others but I just dont see anythin conclusive in that Bag. Agreed the whole video is down right peculiar. The rock painting is where all my question's lie.

IMO - the rock painting area is a crime scene in the NH case.
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« Reply #428 on: April 24, 2007, 12:57:20 AM »

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Apologies to Carpe and others but I just dont see anythin conclusive in that Bag. Agreed the whole video is down right peculiar. The rock painting is where all my question's lie.

IMO - the rock painting area is a crime scene in the NH case.


I STRONGLY agree with that!!!

Klaas:

I did like that post that you made earlier... the list.

Do you have copies of the work that Sleuth did?

I don't know that a lot of people have seen the full photograph
as only the face was printed in the Enquirer...

If ******* hasn't seen it yet, I think he'd like to.
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« Reply #429 on: April 24, 2007, 12:58:20 AM »

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Apologies to Carpe and others but I just dont see anythin conclusive in that Bag. Agreed the whole video is down right peculiar. The rock painting is where all my question's lie.

IMO - the rock painting area is a crime scene in the NH case.


I would think so as well..From what the ALE told jossy it makes it all more suspicious. However the restrictions on the search of the sloot property have me suspicious also.
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« Reply #430 on: April 24, 2007, 01:02:54 AM »

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Apologies to Carpe and others but I just dont see anythin conclusive in that Bag. Agreed the whole video is down right peculiar. The rock painting is where all my question's lie.


Have you seen the full picture of the body in the bag that Sleuth
produced using various filters?
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« Reply #431 on: April 24, 2007, 01:03:35 AM »

Sure Patti..I will take a look. I have looked and looked and looked at that Bag and I just dont see positive proof. I do find it very eeeery the way he strolled up to the bag while video taping. Surprised
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« Reply #432 on: April 24, 2007, 01:05:07 AM »

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Apologies to Carpe and others but I just dont see anythin conclusive in that Bag. Agreed the whole video is down right peculiar. The rock painting is where all my question's lie.

IMO - the rock painting area is a crime scene in the NH case.


I STRONGLY agree with that!!!

Klaas:

I did like that post that you made earlier... the list.

Do you have copies of the work that Sleuth did?

I don't know that a lot of people have seen the full photograph
as only the face was printed in the Enquirer...

If ******* hasn't seen it yet, I think he'd like to.

I'm sure I have it somewhere but I'm not finding it easily.  I'm also sure that ******* has already seen it.
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« Reply #433 on: April 24, 2007, 01:06:03 AM »

I know hotshot picked up some of that paint stuff in Aruba and it was more like puddy. Too bad she didnt bring any back with her  Sad
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« Reply #434 on: April 24, 2007, 01:06:33 AM »

This is the only photo of it that I'm finding right now.  It's actually my replication after doing my own screen capture.

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« Reply #435 on: April 24, 2007, 01:06:39 AM »

Well, let's see if Klaas has it.  If not, maybe someone that does will
post it either here or to the photo evaluation thread.

Are you going to Miami?
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« Reply #436 on: April 24, 2007, 01:08:33 AM »

Yes I am quite the fan of Carpe and have probably seen the pic . I know the way photographs can appear sometimes in certain conditions. WHat do you think Klaas?
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« Reply #437 on: April 24, 2007, 01:11:03 AM »

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San, you are not mad at me are you? You know I feel those three are guilty as hell. Especially Joran.

No I'm not mad at you Elaine.  I know what you were saying.  I was just saying nothing would make me apologize to them.
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« Reply #438 on: April 24, 2007, 01:11:08 AM »

Thanks, Klaas!

I think Angie may have a copy of the full picture.  I get a kick
out of her... she's out on the porch and her hubbies in his fruit
of the looms....

She cracks me up

In a good way!!!

She'll be back, I hope.
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« Reply #439 on: April 24, 2007, 01:14:42 AM »


I have this one. Is that the whole picture? The numbers are not original.

BTW: Klaas, msmarple left you a message in the lounge.   Laughing
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