Lively Case Discussion #603 4/21 - 4/25/2007

[San]

I was just doing a quick fly by and noticed this picture San.  I was thinking exactly whatyou wrote.  He looks crappy.  Bags under the eyes, a half a$$ 5 o'clock shadow, that nose and his red ears!  he's not looking like some hottie that chicks would be flocking over to get a chance to be with.

He must have gotten nervous and thought they were taking a mug shot .

And another ugly shirt.  Someone needs to tell him how to dress.  Oh that's right he is a chip off the old Anita with the see through blouse block.

[Kimmy53]

Just posted by Medleyrelay at FOB regarding the Telegraaf article that headlines that Joran is still lying:

This article was written by Floor Ligtvoet and she is not someone that is in any way favorable to the Van der Sloots!

You have to take these articles sometimes and realize that there is a background of prejudice with some! This persons thinking is more in line with the Jossys and Monkey poo thinkers!!

Her opinons would be well accepted in the Diario - so I think it is always best to consider the SOURCE - with some of this.

Well ain't that the truth?  That's why we don't believe what MR says.

[BTgirl]

Just posted by Medleyrelay at FOB regarding the Telegraaf article that headlines that Joran is still lying:

This article was written by Floor Ligtvoet and she is not someone that is in any way favorable to the Van der Sloots!

You have to take these articles sometimes and realize that there is a background of prejudice with some! This persons thinking is more in line with the Jossys and Monkey poo thinkers!!

Her opinons would be well accepted in the Diario - so I think it is always best to consider the SOURCE - with some of this.

Well ain't that the truth?  That's why we don't believe what MR says.

Does anyone think it's time for Klaas to bring out that pic of MR at the VDS residence?  

[Peaches]

I think it's LONG OVERDUE!

Glad I could make you smile, BT!

[klaasend]

Just posted by Medleyrelay at FOB regarding the Telegraaf article that headlines that Joran is still lying:

This article was written by Floor Ligtvoet and she is not someone that is in any way favorable to the Van der Sloots!

You have to take these articles sometimes and realize that there is a background of prejudice with some! This persons thinking is more in line with the Jossys and Monkey poo thinkers!!

Her opinons would be well accepted in the Diario - so I think it is always best to consider the SOURCE - with some of this.

Well ain't that the truth?  That's why we don't believe what MR says.

Does anyone think it's time for Klaas to bring out that pic of MR at the VDS residence?  

I have this one but it's actually in NY, lol  

[BTgirl]

That's the one, Klaas. Perfect!

[klaasend]

need to reboot, brb

[San]

Translated by Dugo at RU the Telegraaf article:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/62537481/Joran:__Ik_lieg_nog_steeds_.html?p=7,1

Joran: I am still lying

by Harrie Nijen Twilhaar

{EDITED}

The second year student of Hogeschool van Arnhem en Nijmegen, stays self confident. He does not weant to be depicted as a murderer. In his birth town Arnhem he follows IBMS International Business Management Studies. "I want to start my own business on Aruba in the future. That is my homeland."

It looks like Aruba is never going to get rid of him.  Any suggestions on what his business will be?

Sloot & Carlo Law Office

Featuring a new specialty division run by Joran Van der Sloot called how to drug, rape, murder American tourists.

[Peaches]

There is no need to "spin" anything.  "I lie all the time" speaks for itself.  

Sometimes, things are what they seem.  JVDS seems to be a pathological liar.  It is what it is.

Liar, liar, pants on fire.


Words to live by:  Those with nothing to hide, hide nothing.  (Dr. Phil).

[BTgirl]

Ya know, I shouldn't be laughing about poor MR.

I should be making fun of Joran and his funny haircut instead.  

He knows we laugh at him for having a Frankenstein head. You'd think he'd try to have a more flattering hairstyle that would detract from the resemblance, not emphasize it.

[greeneyedlady]

Good post and points made by all10suspects @ RU:

all10suspects Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:27 am    

Need some help here with confusion...did they or didn't they?

We are not going to have real sex here, I have trial exams tomorrow and just want to go home. Don't bother anymore, I thought. She can walk to the hotel with ease. That is her worry, I didn't even like her" On top of that Joran even admits he prefered to have sex with Natalees friend Ruth....

...and then this:


That night I had sex with her and left her alone on the beach. I didn't even knew her name."

...and then this:


"She wanted more, but I did not have any condoms. Then she fell asleep."

The above was taken from fob.
Joran admits to haveing sex with a girl that was drunk and passed out.
Is that ok ? Add to the fact that the gril is never seen again.
I wonder what 2k must be thinking now?

[Dayhiker]

Translated by Dugo at RU the Telegraaf article:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/62537481/Joran:__Ik_lieg_nog_steeds_.html?p=7,1

Joran: I am still lying

by Harrie Nijen Twilhaar

{EDITED}

The second year student of Hogeschool van Arnhem en Nijmegen, stays self confident. He does not weant to be depicted as a murderer. In his birth town Arnhem he follows IBMS International Business Management Studies. "I want to start my own business on Aruba in the future. That is my homeland."

It looks like Aruba is never going to get rid of him.  Any suggestions on what his business will be?

Sloot & Carlo Law Office

Featuring a new specialty division run by Joran Van der Sloot called how to drug, rape, murder American tourists.

It sounds like he's picked the perfect school, San. Hogeschool. Where all the pigs go.

[San]

BT the reason why he doesn't change his hair style is because his hair itself is bad.  He brushes it forward because as you can see he is starting to go bald.  The one with the good hair in the family is his brother Val.



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[San]

Translated by Dugo at RU the Telegraaf article:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/62537481/Joran:__Ik_lieg_nog_steeds_.html?p=7,1

Joran: I am still lying

by Harrie Nijen Twilhaar

{EDITED}

The second year student of Hogeschool van Arnhem en Nijmegen, stays self confident. He does not weant to be depicted as a murderer. In his birth town Arnhem he follows IBMS International Business Management Studies. "I want to start my own business on Aruba in the future. That is my homeland."

It looks like Aruba is never going to get rid of him.  Any suggestions on what his business will be?

Sloot & Carlo Law Office

Featuring a new specialty division run by Joran Van der Sloot called how to drug, rape, murder American tourists.

It sounds like he's picked the perfect school, San. Hogeschool. Where all the pigs go.

I wonder if Guido will be his secretary

[klaasend]

Posted by Dugo at FOB

He seems to speak with complete and utter disregard as to how it makes him look. He also seems convinced there never will be a case against him.

[BTgirl]

BT the reason why he doesn't change his hair style is because his hair itself is bad.  He brushes it forward because as you can see he is starting to go bald.  The one with the good hair in the family is his brother Val.

[/quote]

I guess lying must cause a person to age early. The baldness would go along with those great big bags under his eyes, wouldn't it?

[Anna]

Translated by Dugo at RU the Telegraaf article:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/62537481/Joran:__Ik_lieg_nog_steeds_.html?p=7,1

Joran: I am still lying

by Harrie Nijen Twilhaar
AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot (19), calls himself a pathological liar still believes in his own innocence. "I made the biggest mistake of my life by leaving Natalee alone on the beach. She lied next to me, we felt eachothers body. At that moment I thought: 'We are not going to have real sex here, I have trial exams tomorrow and just want to go home. Don't bother anymore, I thought. She can walk to the hotel with ease. That is her worry, I didn't even like her" On top of that Joran even admits he prefered to have sex with Natalees friend Ruth....

He stubbornly denies to have anything to do with the mysterious disappearence of the American student. "I am still main suspect, lied about that night on the beach but didn't harm her."

The absence of the then 18 year old American student Natalee Holloway on Aruba, now almost 2 years ago touched him mentally in a big way. "I hate myself because I lied so much, about everything. The unpleasant thing is that I am still lying every day. That comes with ease, still"

He does not try to hide it. "I thought the whole world always revolved around me. Because of that I was silent about the truth back then. That was stupidDaarom heb ik destijds de waarheid over die bewuste nacht met Natalee gezwegen. Dat was dom. That night I had sex with her and left her alone on the beach. I didn't even knew her name."

"In fact I should be treated for the constant lying, but I am too stubborn for that. I am being compared w/ OJ in the US", he says proudly.
Treatment

His parents wanted him to go to the child psychologist already before the vanishing. "I could not get on very well with my brother. I didn't mesh (Ik spoorde niet [tr?]). But I didn't like that treatment at all."

The second year student of Hogeschool van Arnhem en Nijmegen, stays self confident. He does not weant to be depicted as a murderer. In his birth town Arnhem he follows IBMS International Business Management Studies. "I want to start my own business on Aruba in the future. That is my homeland."

Today appears his autobiografie about the mess that reached the American- and even world press. "I wrote it like a diary. Not to proof my innocence, but to come to terms with it myself."

Alcohol

On the 30th of May 2004 (?????) the blond tourist vanishes without a trace after being intensely intimate on the white beach with the tall Van der Sloot for part of the night and having consumed quite some alcohol. "She wanted more, but I did not have any condoms. Then she fell asleep."

Several hours before the amorous petting he enjoyed himself together with his friends, thje brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe and female American students, among who Natalee. That happened at the blackjacktable of the Excelsior Casino of the Holiday Inn hotel. Natalee keeps pushing that she wants to come with the boys. "I told her I had a trial exam the next day."

Nevertheless he caves in under the pressure of the girl. Around midnight he is picked up from home in the pimped Honda Civic of Deepak Kalpoe. "I want to see sharks", Natalee says. The duo is dropped of at fishing huts by the friends of Van der Sloot. [part II] Hij reveals all sexual details. That he touched her breasts and reproductive organ, but didn't knew her name. "We fiddled with each others bodys. In total the meeting took three hours. But I rather have had sex with her girlfriend Ruth. She was more pretty.

Van der Sloot, who is arrested soon after, lies everything together over the next days. With his friends, the brothers Kalpoe agree when it appears that the blond American has vanished from the earth. "Why did we decide to lie (about) what happened that night? "I could not do different. They would have considered me guilty directly."

New sweathart.        

The suspect in the sensational disappearance case cheated on his new sweathart as soon as he returned to Dutch soil. That relationship was over in a few days. "Fortunately I have a girlfriend who believes me unconditionaly now. I will not deceive her. For that matter, she did not read my book yet."    

He became sick of the American media. "The saturation coverage of the Holloway-case resulted in high viewing figures for the big tv stations." Also the notion that Aruba, because of the vanishing and suggested coverup (they?) wanted to boycott the island economically doesn't bother him anymore now.  

For the time being he doesn't want to set foot on American soil. "I think that Natalees mom can't suppress her hate feelings. The family still depicts me as criminal, perilous and corrupt"

[/b]


I just can't read this enough!  Brought it forward so that no one will miss it.  

Isn't the Telegraph one of the largest newspapers in The Netherlands?  They really ripped Joran to shreds with this.  He looks like a total fool and liar but then that is exactly what he is.

I wonder who his new sweatheart is and if Paulus has met her yet.   Sounds like they have a great deal in common.

So Joran is still lying every day?  What is it he is lying about and why can't he be brought in for questioning concerning this daily lying he is still doing?  I know, because they don't want to know what happened.

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[San]

BT the reason why he doesn't change his hair style is because his hair itself is bad.  He brushes it forward because as you can see he is starting to go bald.  The one with the good hair in the family is his brother Val.

I guess lying must cause a person to age early. The baldness would go along with those great big bags under his eyes, wouldn't it?

In his case yes.  He wants everyone to believe his lies so badly that the stress is getting to him.  He looks like a dirtball.

[crazybabyborg]

Just posted by Medleyrelay at FOB regarding the Telegraaf article that headlines that Joran is still lying:

This article was written by Floor Ligtvoet and she is not someone that is in any way favorable to the Van der Sloots!

You have to take these articles sometimes and realize that there is a background of prejudice with some! This persons thinking is more in line with the Jossys and Monkey poo thinkers!!

Her opinons would be well accepted in the Diario - so I think it is always best to consider the SOURCE - with some of this.

   

 
I'd rather be poo............
Thinking of you..............
I'd rather be poo, thinking of you
Than be stu-pid
with somebody else...........
 

[LilPuma]

Translated by Dugo at RU the Telegraaf article:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/62537481/Joran:__Ik_lieg_nog_steeds_.html?p=7,1

Joran: I am still lying

by Harrie Nijen Twilhaar

{EDITED}

The second year student of Hogeschool van Arnhem en Nijmegen, stays self confident. He does not weant to be depicted as a murderer. In his birth town Arnhem he follows IBMS International Business Management Studies. "I want to start my own business on Aruba in the future. That is my homeland."

It looks like Aruba is never going to get rid of him.  Any suggestions on what his business will be?

Sloot & Carlo Law Office

Featuring a new specialty division run by Joran Van der Sloot called how to drug, rape, murder American tourists.

Hopefully the FBI and The Hague and Interpol already have their paperwork in place to get wiretaps going the day this business opens.  Then there's always the possibility that Hugo will have a photo op with him that day.