Caylee Marie Anthony MURDER TRIAL- DAY 29 - 6/27/11

[DonFL]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

Umm....the vegetation was rooted to the ground THROUGH the bones. The skull was partially buried in the muck. The bones had been scattered by animals as they drug them away from the initial site. The bones were still connected by tissue as several body segments were found still closely related. Vegetation is key to the time the body was in the site. And all forensic analysis indicates that the body had been in place for up to six months.

As we say here in Florida, Central Florida, to newcomers, "Y'all ain't from around here, are ya?"

   Please don't confuse the issue with logic!

[Kermit]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

Not when it grew from the ground thru a Winnie the Pooh blanket, two plastic bags & a canvas bag.  If it was disturbed from June to Dec from another location  the vegetation amount and growth would be less significant

Cappuccino,
Thank you. You make such sense out of the confusing testimony that gets put on by the defense and my head sometimes is spinning (cuz I didn't follow the case closely) and then I come here and read your posts and I have a sigh of relief.

[Jesse]

wonder if cindy is on here seems i read something that only an anthony would write

[cherjers]

Sir, are these your phone records?

Dom Casey is mixed up because hes loaded & trying to avoid getting in a heap of trouble.   Fact is he still spoke to Bozo & Cindy condoned the entire thing....snit I dont have to be a fly on the wall for that.   Truth be told, I believe George may have been out of the loop & yet Cindy is smack in the middle of it trying to save her monster.

He did good for the state when asked if George was as upset as Cindy was he said yes

[islandmonkey]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

So, what do you think they did....transplant all that "overgrown" vegetation into that spot.

Hmmm....that spot was cleared to bare earth and now, 3 years later.....3 years....the vegetation has not become overgrown...we know that because several reporters have been there recently to show us the location.  Yes, vegetation is growing back, but 3 years later it's not over-grown.

So, IMO, to have put that much vegetation in that area, to be that over-grown, it would have taken an army of minions to put those plants in the ground...not to mention the second army it would take to weave those "very fine" roots through the bones and the hair mass on the ground. 

Bock testified that the vegetation on Casey's car did not match the vegetation found in Caylee's remains. She testified that the vegetation could have taken place in a two week period, but she also said it could have been there 6 months.

IIRC, Bock is also the one who didn't know about Kudzu, after 30 years of experience.  I don't have any years of experience in her line of work, yet I've know what Kudzu is since I was a very young girl. 

Me either, but anyone who is familiar even slightly with this area and the south in general shoudl know about Kudzu...or maybe she thinks it is IVY   She came across as totally confused and out of it IMO...dazed and confused puts it best.

[Puzzler]

Oh my GAWD!  I can't take this anymore.  Isn't George asking the exact same questions as Finnell?  All they have him doing is draw on pics.  Linda!  Please put us out of our misery!

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one annoyed by George. Even his voice drives me crazy.

Yes and there we go. George is done and we gained NOTHING!!!

 

Agreed. Every time he examines a witness is a waste.

Disagree completely. On cross examination-- they CAN'T confront the witness with phone records etc. What they are doing is merely asking questions that they can confront during the rebuttal.  Don't worry folks -- the Prosecution will wrap up ALL of these thing during rebuttal.

Completely agree!!!

But, but...isn't the rebuttal case just that...a case of rebuttal for what the defense put on?  The prosecution will be able to bring their evidence to "rebut".

The rebuttal is not like cross-examination where they can only ask questions about what the defense questions.

Isn't the rebuttal "case" as case of information with prosecutions "answers" to those questions.

Totally agree that the prosecution WILL get this all cleared up.

IMO, the rebuttal case will move very quickly, with many witnesses on and off the stand....point, after point, after point.

[Anna]

I take "opinions" from certain posters with a grain bag of salt. Some posters also think computers have artificial intelligence and run hard searches by themselves all day.

I guess we could never convict child molesters of having kiddie porn on their computers because -- you never know when a perverted computer with a sex addiction is going to search such sites while you aren't home! 

Since Cindy told us about this, I have been afraid to leave the house or go to sleep for fear mine will do something highly illegal or frame me for murder all on its own!!!


 

[Kermit]

I can't wait to hear from this Kronk guy from all your posts this is going to be either very exciting or very distrubing.


Is sparky still in use in Florida?

[cherjers]

and dont forget, Dominic wants that tape because he didnt give permission for audio
 

Yea  why does he want audio  -he needs subtitles

[DonFL]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

So, what do you think they did....transplant all that "overgrown" vegetation into that spot.

Hmmm....that spot was cleared to bare earth and now, 3 years later.....3 years....the vegetation has not become overgrown...we know that because several reporters have been there recently to show us the location.  Yes, vegetation is growing back, but 3 years later it's not over-grown.

So, IMO, to have put that much vegetation in that area, to be that over-grown, it would have taken an army of minions to put those plants in the ground...not to mention the second army it would take to weave those "very fine" roots through the bones and the hair mass on the ground. 

Bock testified that the vegetation on Casey's car did not match the vegetation found in Caylee's remains. She testified that the vegetation could have taken place in a two week period, but she also said it could have been there 6 months.

IIRC, Bock is also the one who didn't know about Kudzu, after 30 years of experience.  I don't have any years of experience in her line of work, yet I've know what Kudzu is since I was a very young girl. 

Me either, but anyone who is familiar even slightly with this area and the south in general shoudl know about Kudzu...or maybe she thinks it is IVY   She came across as totally confused and out of it IMO...dazed and confused puts it best.

I think her and Spitz hooked up later.

[Puzzler]

NG pointing out that what the defense got the two PI's to say is we didn't see the body.  So the defense will say they didn't see the body, so it wasn't there. THe NEVER LOOKED WHERE the body was!!

[pharlap]

Sir, are these your phone records?

Dom Casey is mixed up because hes loaded & trying to avoid getting in a heap of trouble.   Fact is he still spoke to Bozo & Cindy condoned the entire thing....snit I dont have to be a fly on the wall for that.   Truth be told, I believe George may have been out of the loop & yet Cindy is smack in the middle of it trying to save her monster.

He did good for the state when asked if George was as upset as Cindy was he said yes

Correct.
Woow Shaeffer still doesn't have it nightly up yet...pout.
 

[klaasend]

I can't wait to hear from this Kronk guy from all your posts this is going to be either very exciting or very distrubing.


Is sparky still in use in Florida?

Kermit -FWIW, IMO Kronk is a non issue. 

[Puzzler]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

So, what do you think they did....transplant all that "overgrown" vegetation into that spot.

Hmmm....that spot was cleared to bare earth and now, 3 years later.....3 years....the vegetation has not become overgrown...we know that because several reporters have been there recently to show us the location.  Yes, vegetation is growing back, but 3 years later it's not over-grown.

So, IMO, to have put that much vegetation in that area, to be that over-grown, it would have taken an army of minions to put those plants in the ground...not to mention the second army it would take to weave those "very fine" roots through the bones and the hair mass on the ground. 

Bock testified that the vegetation on Casey's car did not match the vegetation found in Caylee's remains. She testified that the vegetation could have taken place in a two week period, but she also said it could have been there 6 months.

IIRC, Bock is also the one who didn't know about Kudzu, after 30 years of experience.  I don't have any years of experience in her line of work, yet I've know what Kudzu is since I was a very young girl. 

Me either, but anyone who is familiar even slightly with this area and the south in general shoudl know about Kudzu...or maybe she thinks it is IVY   She came across as totally confused and out of it IMO...dazed and confused puts it best.

I think her and Spitz hooked up later.

In all seriousness...Dr. Bock did really seem "dazed" and "confused".

[Anna]

Kudzu--The Vine that Ate the South!

[Shell]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

Not when it grew from the ground thru a Winnie the Pooh blanket, two plastic bags & a canvas bag.  If it was disturbed from June to Dec from another location  the vegetation amount and growth would be less significant

Cappuccino,
Thank you. You make such sense out of the confusing testimony that gets put on by the defense and my head sometimes is spinning (cuz I didn't follow the case closely) and then I come here and read your posts and I have a sigh of relief.

I agree Kermit. I am just not so sure that some members of the jury are as intelligent or have the insight Capp does and they are not getting it. I pray they have someone on the jury that can make it less confusing.

[Titch]

I just thought of something. Cindy said she's salary but her company doesn't like them to show overtime hours, right? She did say she's on salary? The reason I'm asking os bc her direct deposit shows different amounts being deposited every other week. If she was salary, she'd receive the same amount each pay. Right?

Bump... Please...

ITA..........salaried workers have the same amount every paycheck except maybe a bonus once or twice a yr, I am commissioned so mine is different every month, but I have never heard of anyone on salary having varying amounts deposited to their acct. Good point!

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[DonFL]

I can't wait to hear from this Kronk guy from all your posts this is going to be either very exciting or very distrubing.


Is sparky still in use in Florida?

Kermit -FWIW, IMO Kronk is a non issue. 

Idiot get her choice.  Sparky or Lethal Injection.

[Puzzler]

I can't wait to hear from this Kronk guy from all your posts this is going to be either very exciting or very distrubing.


Is sparky still in use in Florida?

Kermit -FWIW, IMO Kronk is a non issue. 

Agree.  We know Kronk pointed out that one LEO in a bad light, and that officer ended up without his job...that didn't happen without Kronk getting check out throughly first.  Also, Mark NeJame contends that Kronk has done nothing wrong.  Mark is one of the few that I do trust.

[Cappuccino]

Oh my GAWD!  I can't take this anymore.  Isn't George asking the exact same questions as Finnell?  All they have him doing is draw on pics.  Linda!  Please put us out of our misery!

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one annoyed by George. Even his voice drives me crazy.

Yes and there we go. George is done and we gained NOTHING!!!

 

Agreed. Every time he examines a witness is a waste.

Disagree completely. On cross examination-- they CAN'T confront the witness with phone records etc. What they are doing is merely asking questions that they can confront during the rebuttal.  Don't worry folks -- the Prosecution will wrap up ALL of these thing during rebuttal.

Completely agree!!!

But, but...isn't the rebuttal case just that...a case of rebuttal for what the defense put on?  The prosecution will be able to bring their evidence to "rebut".

The rebuttal is not like cross-examination where they can only ask questions about what the defense questions.

Isn't the rebuttal "case" as case of information with prosecutions "answers" to those questions.

Totally agree that the prosecution WILL get this all cleared up.

IMO, the rebuttal case will move very quickly, with many witnesses on and off the stand....point, after point, after point.

Swift, quick & wrapped in a bow