Caylee Marie Anthony MURDER TRIAL- DAY 29 - 6/27/11

[Ono]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

So, what do you think they did....transplant all that "overgrown" vegetation into that spot.

Hmmm....that spot was cleared to bare earth and now, 3 years later.....3 years....the vegetation has not become overgrown...we know that because several reporters have been there recently to show us the location.  Yes, vegetation is growing back, but 3 years later it's not over-grown.

So, IMO, to have put that much vegetation in that area, to be that over-grown, it would have taken an army of minions to put those plants in the ground...not to mention the second army it would take to weave those "very fine" roots through the bones and the hair mass on the ground. 

Bock testified that the vegetation on Casey's car did not match the vegetation found in Caylee's remains. She testified that the vegetation could have taken place in a two week period, but she also said it could have been there 6 months.

Bock-Smock---that woman was clearly a loon.   If you are that gullible-then God help you.

[Tamikosmom]

IIRC - (someone correct me if I'm wrong) didn't Dominic state that "Baez told him" to contact him first if he found a body...not LE?????

Puzzler

Your recollection is right on.

Considering the prosecutor asked Dominic outright if it was Cindy or George who directed him to the woods one month prior to the discovery of Caylee's remains and ... Dominic responded in the negative ... it is my contention that it was Baez.

Think about it.  The prosecutor asked Dominic if he kept in contact with Baez after leaving the defence team and going to work for the Anthonys.  Dominic responded in the affirmative.

Casey Anthony - Jose Baez - Dominic Casey.

Janet

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Casey Anthony trial: Jose Baez has a history of Florida Bar complaints
Judges also expressed concerns
June 20, 2011

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Since taking on Casey Anthony's defense, Jose Baez has been targeted by several Florida Bar inquiries:

In September 2009, the Bar cleared Baez of an ethical complaint accusing him of getting paid inappropriately in the case.

In September 2009, the Bar cleared Baez of ethics allegations made by private investigator Dominic Casey, who claimed he was never paid by Baez. He also said the attorney told him to walk away from Caylee's remains if he ever found them and contact Baez. Both complaints were dismissed based on insufficient evidence.

Judge Stan Strickland, the original judge assigned to the case, penned a letter to the Bar related to the Dominic Casey incident, also resulting in no formal action against Baez. In the letter, Strickland wrote of the allegations, "If truthful, they are extremely troubling."
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http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-20/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-day-23-box-20110620_1_jose-baez-dominic-casey-casey-anthony-trial


Anthonys Familys' P.I. Deposition Postponed
Posted: 12:18 pm EST November 10, 2009
Updated: 12:40 pm EST November 10, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Anthony family's private investigator will have to answer questions under oath in the case against Casey Anthony, but he'll get more time to prepare.

Private Investigator Dominic Casey was set to be deposed on Thursday, but it's been pushed back until December 16. Dominic Casey filed a motion (read) on October 21, to stop his November deposition.

Dominic has been trying to get out of the deposition. He says because he once worked for Casey’s defense team, he shouldn't have to answer any questions.

Dominic Casey was videotaped in the woods near the Anthony family home in November, one month before Caylee Anthony’s remains were found there on December 11.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/21573563/detail.html

[Anna]

here is one thing i can't figure out.  Why would casey tell anyone where the body was.  Initally, I belive George helped her hide or actually disposed of the body for her.  But taking him out of the scenario then why Casey tell anyone.  Her case was stronger without Caylee's body having been found and as an extra benefit it would continue to torture Cindy forever if she hadn't been found.  Maybe Casey didn't want all Cindy's resources spent on looking for an alive Caylee.  That is one thing I can't figure out.

Remember when Casey said the reward would pay her bail?  Could it have been a scheme to get that money some way?

[TURBOTHINK]

As much as I think Padilla is the biggest buffoon in this affair -- I think he is probably dead on correct in his analysis of Kronk, Hoover and Casey. I think they WERE informed of the disposal site (and yes-- the body has been there all along). I think they got the information from hearing "privlilged attorney -client conversation at the jail. (Kronk had a source there!).

I think I would like to have Kronk to "come clean" on the stand and throw Baez under the bus. That pains me though as a it would be an immediate mis-trial. Baez would not be just dis-barred, he would go to jail. So would Kronk for lying in his deposition.  

I agree about Hoover and Casey but not Kronk.  Like I've said many times before, there is nothing unusual about suspecting that general area to be a location where Casey might have placed Caylee.  From the beginning it was said she would hang out there as a teen with her friends (ICA).  The problem is the area is over grown and for a long time was under water.  I have seen nothing that ties Kronk to the Anthonys or Hoover or Dominic Casey.

Kronk was the ONLY one who agreed to a lie detector test and passed it. NONE of the Anthonys would and neither would Hoover or Casey.

[Ono]

I take "opinions" from certain posters with a grain bag of salt. Some posters also think computers have artificial intelligence and run hard searches by themselves all day.

I guess we could never convict child molesters of having kiddie porn on their computers because -- you never know when a perverted computer with a sex addiction is going to search such sites while you aren't home! 

No kidding ...

[wreck]

As much as I think Padilla is the biggest buffoon in this affair -- I think he is probably dead on correct in his analysis of Kronk, Hoover and Casey. I think they WERE informed of the disposal site (and yes-- the body has been there all along). I think they got the information from hearing "privlilged attorney -client conversation at the jail. (Kronk had a source there!).

I think I would like to have Kronk to "come clean" on the stand and throw Baez under the bus. That pains me though as a it would be an immediate mis-trial. Baez would not be just dis-barred, he would go to jail. So would Kronk for lying in his deposition. 

I agree about Hoover and Casey but not Kronk.  Like I've said many times before, there is nothing unusual about suspecting that general area to be a location where Casey might have placed Caylee.  From the beginning it was said she would hang out there as a teen with her friends (ICA).  The problem is the area is over grown and for a long time was under water.  I have seen nothing that ties Kronk to the Anthonys or Hoover or Dominic Casey.

I hope you are right  -- I just seemed to recall that Kronk had an "ex" working the jail at the time ---it worries me! I just read Turbo saying he passed a lie detector test -- that makes me feel better!

[Puzzler]

Rob Dick just said Hoover approached him and LP about the tape, and that he was way off in the brush, in the SAME place Kronk was in Aug.  Rob drank Lennie's koolaid now. 

LP told Hoover not to sell the tape to FOX for $50K but to sell it to Jim L for $200k

      

Well, that only says that Hoover talked to Len and Rob about it.  The defense and prosecution asked if Hoover had been in "negotiations" to sell the tape.  If Hoover only talked to Len and Rob, then he wouldn't have been "actively" trying to sell the tapes.  Wonder if he really only tried to sell the photos afterall?

[flamom]

Greta and Dr Baden should hang it up.. best part was Judge Jeanine

[kcrn]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

So, what do you think they did....transplant all that "overgrown" vegetation into that spot.

Hmmm....that spot was cleared to bare earth and now, 3 years later.....3 years....the vegetation has not become overgrown...we know that because several reporters have been there recently to show us the location.  Yes, vegetation is growing back, but 3 years later it's not over-grown.

So, IMO, to have put that much vegetation in that area, to be that over-grown, it would have taken an army of minions to put those plants in the ground...not to mention the second army it would take to weave those "very fine" roots through the bones and the hair mass on the ground. 

Bock testified that the vegetation on Casey's car did not match the vegetation found in Caylee's remains. She testified that the vegetation could have taken place in a two week period, but she also said it could have been there 6 months.

Bock-Smock---that woman was clearly a loon.   If you are that gullible-then God help you.

u sound like  a defense supporter in most of your posts strawberry

[Titch]

LP just said Ginnette got the info from Baez.  Said it on national TV.  Giddy up!

This is what Ive been trying to say which has nothing to do with LP.  If everyone recalls, Hoover stated that DC went to meet with Bozo & at that time DC he was stunned that he was being told Caylee was dead, FWIW.  DC said that he was not sent to the woods by George or Cindy so simple deduction means in some manner it had to have come from Casey.

Exactly. I remember this.

[Ono]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

Umm....the vegetation was rooted to the ground THROUGH the bones. The skull was partially buried in the muck. The bones had been scattered by animals as they drug them away from the initial site. The bones were still connected by tissue as several body segments were found still closely related. Vegetation is key to the time the body was in the site. And all forensic analysis indicates that the body had been in place for up to six months.

As we say here in Florida, Central Florida, to newcomers, "Y'all ain't from around here, are ya?"

Hahahha---"Well, bless my soul, honey chile!"   

[cheeky monkey]

here is one thing i can't figure out.  Why would casey tell anyone where the body was.  Initally, I belive George helped her hide or actually disposed of the body for her.  But taking him out of the scenario then why Casey tell anyone.  Her case was stronger without Caylee's body having been found and as an extra benefit it would continue to torture Cindy forever if she hadn't been found.  Maybe Casey didn't want all Cindy's resources spent on looking for an alive Caylee.  That is one thing I can't figure out.

Remember when Casey said the reward would pay her bail?  Could it have been a scheme to get that money some way?

i don't know Anna, the only thing I can think of besides Casey told someone (and excluding George knew) was mabye there was a psychic.  Was the abandoned house search the same day?  I appreciate you guessing with me

[flamom]

I think Dr Baden tossed his balls out with his wifes extra skin.. very pathetic

[karenmamo]

As much as I think Padilla is the biggest buffoon in this affair -- I think he is probably dead on correct in his analysis of Kronk, Hoover and Casey. I think they WERE informed of the disposal site (and yes-- the body has been there all along). I think they got the information from hearing "privlilged attorney -client conversation at the jail. (Kronk had a source there!).

I think I would like to have Kronk to "come clean" on the stand and throw Baez under the bus. That pains me though as a it would be an immediate mis-trial. Baez would not be just dis-barred, he would go to jail. So would Kronk for lying in his deposition. 

These words I agree with:   I think he is probably dead on correct in his analysis of Kronk, Hoover and Casey. I think they WERE informed of the disposal site (and yes-- the body has been there all along). I think they got the information from hearing "privlilged attorney -client conversation at the jail. (Kronk had a source there!).
~~~~~~~~~~~~However, that just cannot come in no matter how many time Leonard talks about it.

[cheeky monkey]

LP just said Ginnette got the info from Baez.  Said it on national TV.  Giddy up!

This is what Ive been trying to say which has nothing to do with LP.  If everyone recalls, Hoover stated that DC went to meet with Bozo & at that time DC he was stunned that he was being told Caylee was dead, FWIW.  DC said that he was not sent to the woods by George or Cindy so simple deduction means in some manner it had to have come from Casey.

I thought it was a little strange that the private investigators had plans the day they searched the woods and cancelled those plans based on a psychic tip. What was the urgency of that tip that made it so credible so as to cancel actual plans.  She wasn't telling them she saw a live child so why the hurry?
Exactly. I remember this.

[cheeky monkey]

LP just said Ginnette got the info from Baez.  Said it on national TV.  Giddy up!

This is what Ive been trying to say which has nothing to do with LP.  If everyone recalls, Hoover stated that DC went to meet with Bozo & at that time DC he was stunned that he was being told Caylee was dead, FWIW.  DC said that he was not sent to the woods by George or Cindy so simple deduction means in some manner it had to have come from Casey.

I thought it was a little strange that the private investigators had plans the day they searched the woods and cancelled those plans based on a psychic tip. What was the urgency of that tip that made it so credible so as to cancel actual plans.  She wasn't telling them she saw a live child so why the hurry?
Exactly. I remember this.

oops - got in the quote box
I thought it was a little strange that the private investigators had plans the day they searched the woods and cancelled those plans based on a psychic tip. What was the urgency of that tip that made it so credible so as to cancel actual plans.  She wasn't telling them she saw a live child so why the hurry?
Exactly. I remember this.

[Ono]

I take "opinions" from certain posters with a grain bag of salt. Some posters also think computers have artificial intelligence and run hard searches by themselves all day.

I guess we could never convict child molesters of having kiddie porn on their computers because -- you never know when a perverted computer with a sex addiction is going to search such sites while you aren't home! 

Since Cindy told us about this, I have been afraid to leave the house or go to sleep for fear mine will do something highly illegal or frame me for murder all on its own!!!




 

LOL!

[flamom]

Dr Baden has become unwatchable.. he spouts the same chit his wife does..like a puppet

[TURBOTHINK]

I always wondered if Convicted Felon Casey Anthony had the remains in the freezer for a day or so as she backed that car right up against it.  And had some frozen foods in the car when Tony picked her up, etc.

I always wondered if she took those frozen items out of the freezer and to Tony's to make room to keep Caylee there as she was starting to decompose.  

Don't forget that even Dr. Tim Huntington brought up the possibility of the body being refrigerated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkiFd1jZJzU&t=370m0s

I've always thought that. I thought Caylee died outside & Casey put her in her play cottage until she could figure out what to do. Then she put her in garbage bags/laundry bag & into the freezer. Then she backed her car into the garage & took Caylee out of the freezer & placed her frozen body in the trunk. I always thought there was no way she'd be able to handle a dead body in the trunk for a few days...unless the body was originally frozen. The condensation of the thawing body mixed with the natural decomposition could have helped to stain the trunk. Caylee was triple bagged but the larvae could have eaten through the bags. However, if condensation formed on the outside as well as the inside of the bags, added in with decomp, the smell would permeate everything. Decomp would do that anyway, however if it was from food the smell would have subsided. Decomp is kinda like putting leftover birthday cake in the fridge when there's a cut onion also in there. No matter how much you secure that cake, it'll still pick up that onion smell/taste. Decomp of a body is like that. It attaches to everything. I think George got close to crashing Casey's party when he went to take the gas cans out of her trunk...but she raced him there.

I did not think she put her in the freezer until the Anthonys bought new washer, dryer and freezer. When I saw them on the TV live cams getting those, I decided then she took the food out of the freezer to fit her in there under the food. They were broke but got those? There was a reason. It would make sense if she had her in the freezer first, in the laundry bag, then the garbage bags condensation would make that stain. Also the body when it started thawing would decompose extremely rapidly. There were a number of coolers in that garage and I wondered if she put her in a cooler too.

[Ono]

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But I love it--it's goegeous.  There are also kudzu cookbooks---it's an Oriental vine which is edible.