Caylee Marie Anthony MURDER TRIAL- DAY 29 - 6/27/11

[cece5300]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

JOSE BAEZ IS THAT YOU?!

[Kermit]

I can't wait to hear from this Kronk guy from all your posts this is going to be either very exciting or very distrubing.


Is sparky still in use in Florida?

Kermit -FWIW, IMO Kronk is a non issue. 

why?

[Anna]

Plant life GROWING.

Keyword = growing.  Proof it was not moved.

Not even by the Florida coyotes!

[Kermit]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

JOSE BAEZ IS THAT YOU?!

 

[higherhopes]

I have lived in the south my whole entire life and my brother was the one that took care of the grounds at Disney Land for years and as most know lots of the land at Disney use to be swamp land.......very wet......and I can tell you now that it takes much longer then a few weeks for vines to grow through the ground and up through a trash bag filled with remains of a small child. Caylee was most likely thrown into those woods the day that George was about to get into Caseys trunk.
   I hope no one wants any of us to believe that kronk put those remains there in the woods.....drung several of the bones around and chewed on them so it would look like small animals had gotten ahold of the......made sure to dig up some vines and small plants from another location and somehow plant them inbetween the bones and skull of that beautiful babies remains and then came back in a few weeks and found them..................dang how much money did he recieve as the reward anyways......looks like to me if he is this good he missed his calling. He could work for any number of  crooks that want to hide bodies and make them  show up in a different location........Thats all bullcrap......Casey killed caylee.......Casey threw Caylee out in the woods   and kronk just  happened to be the man to find her period...end of story!!!!!

[Gypsy DD]

He went in the 3rd time for "relief".  Is he now going to say he peed in the woods just like Kronk did?

No wonder it flooded back there.

Klaas....Seeing Lenamom on NG made me remember how we saw pictures of ICA when she was little.  Remember his plea for mercy to take the DP off of the table?  Anyone else remember that?

I don't remember that plea for mercy..but I do remember he and Baez parted company because he wanted to go for an insanity defense....and Baez did not want to go that way..and one you presume the inmate didn't either.

[Grandma2Maddie]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

So, what do you think they did....transplant all that "overgrown" vegetation into that spot.

Hmmm....that spot was cleared to bare earth and now, 3 years later.....3 years....the vegetation has not become overgrown...we know that because several reporters have been there recently to show us the location.  Yes, vegetation is growing back, but 3 years later it's not over-grown.

So, IMO, to have put that much vegetation in that area, to be that over-grown, it would have taken an army of minions to put those plants in the ground...not to mention the second army it would take to weave those "very fine" roots through the bones and the hair mass on the ground. 

Bock testified that the vegetation on Casey's car did not match the vegetation found in Caylee's remains. She testified that the vegetation could have taken place in a two week period, but she also said it could have been there 6 months.

Isn't Bock the one that said a dog buried the bone?   LOL

[Anna]

I always wondered if Convicted Felon Casey Anthony had the remains in the freezer for a day or so as she backed that car right up against it.  And had some frozen foods in the car when Tony picked her up, etc.

Glad someone else thinks this.  It has always bothered me.  Guess no way to prove anything now.

I always wondered if she took those frozen items out of the freezer and to Tony's to make room to keep Caylee there as she was starting to decompose. 

[islandmonkey]

Plant life growing in the laundry bag

WOW that is a great shot Klassend.

Anyone who has ever tried to grow from a seed knows how long it takes for roots to show up and this is a LOT.
This is not just 2 weeks worth of growth.

Then there are the roots growing in Caylee's hair mat

That is the photo that is burned in my memory......I remember her beautiful shiny hair compared to that and how cold and heartless a mother could be to toss her child in a garbage dump, and one she used to bury her pets in no less. I think everyone thought she was in that general area but couldn't access it since it was underwater so I am not shocked she was never found until December.

[BluesyGram]

Kronk is not on trial here.  Casey Anthony is and for first degree murder.  No matter what Kronk might or might not be, he didn't kill the baby.

TotMom did.

I am so grateful he found her.  IMO we would have to really worry about a lesser charge if he wouldn't have found her.  Maybe LE did feed him the info.  Who cares?  Not me.  What I really think is a big deal is how Dom. Casey KNEW exactly what to go look for...pavers, black bags, log & along Surburban.

[DonFL]

I can't wait to hear from this Kronk guy from all your posts this is going to be either very exciting or very distrubing.


Is sparky still in use in Florida?

Kermit -FWIW, IMO Kronk is a non issue. 

why?

Because sometimes (most of the time) things are actually just what they are.  There is nothing to indicate Kronk has done anything but find the body.  As far as his past goes.  I shy away from statements from "ex's".

[Kermit]

Plant life GROWING.

Keyword = growing.  Proof it was not moved.

Not even by the Florida coyotes!

[flamom]

I always wondered if Convicted Felon Casey Anthony had the remains in the freezer for a day or so as she backed that car right up against it.  And had some frozen foods in the car when Tony picked her up, etc.

Anna, I wondered that also, but wouldnt she fear the parents would accidently come across Caylee?? eeww.. if its true, she brought frozen food from home..I wonder if caylee was laying on it or under it
I still think that the playhouse or sandbox is more likely

[islandmonkey]

I happen to agree with the defense that the body was placed in that location at a later date. I don't know who or why someone did it, but I firnly believe it happened. And as for Kronk, he's a snake, imo. Something isn't right with him. His "I stopped on the side of the road to pee and stumbled across remains" is a CROCK of BS, imo.

I stand on the side of the forensic scientists for the prosecution and believe 100% the body was placed there in June 2008, not at a later date. 

Ditto......even their own experts state she has been there for 6 months (except that quack Bock who thought a coyote of dog buried a bone)......also, IIRC Tim Miller who surely has seen his share of bodies found stated the day he saw her and the depression in the ground, vines growing thru her skull and bag that she had been there for ~6 months

  Stawberry something isnt right with Kronk-but KC is mother of the year--Lee is the typical brother-George and Cindy are just the couple next store-oh they used to live with her daughter and a beautiful baby named Caylee -but now they live alone.  Yes Kronk is a snake

Glad someone else sees right through Kronk.

Put aside what one might thing of Kronk as a person - what do you think he did that was wrong with respect to Caylee and why.

I just think there is more to his discovery story than he's telling. It is quite clear he was persistent in this for the notoriety of it, at least to me it is. He's a snake, he's a liar and he's a weasel. His history proves that.

Obviously Casey put the remains somewhere. But where is my question. I am more upset that had the remains been left where they originally were that quite possibly could have provided evidence to the truth. I don't know why he would have moved them, other than where he discovered them was in a place he had no business being. Perhaps private property, etc. He wanted that reward and he wanted the media attention.

How do you know he is a snake, a liar and a weasel......I mean I call my ex hubby that and worse but, but,,,,,nevermind

[cherjers]

I happen to agree with the defense that the body was placed in that location at a later date. I don't know who or why someone did it, but I firnly believe it happened. And as for Kronk, he's a snake, imo. Something isn't right with him. His "I stopped on the side of the road to pee and stumbled across remains" is a CROCK of BS, imo.

I stand on the side of the forensic scientists for the prosecution and believe 100% the body was placed there in June 2008, not at a later date. 

Ditto......even their own experts state she has been there for 6 months (except that quack Bock who thought a coyote of dog buried a bone)......also, IIRC Tim Miller who surely has seen his share of bodies found stated the day he saw her and the depression in the ground, vines growing thru her skull and bag that she had been there for ~6 months

  Stawberry something isnt right with Kronk-but KC is mother of the year--Lee is the typical brother-George and Cindy are just the couple next store-oh they used to live with her daughter and a beautiful baby named Caylee -but now they live alone.  Yes Kronk is a snake

Glad someone else sees right through Kronk.

Put aside what one might thing of Kronk as a person - what do you think he did that was wrong with respect to Caylee and why.

Kronk did nothing wrong-there is only one person who took Caylee life-but that is not all she destroyed her father and brother-Cindy as bad as she is did not dieserve to lose Caylee a child she truly loved- and tried to involve Jessie -a man that loved her- and now kronk-give me a break -if she were set free she would be a serial Killer-anyone who got in her way -they would not have long for this world

[Kermit]

Because sometimes (most of the time) things are actually just what they are.  There is nothing to indicate Kronk has done anything but find the body.  As far as his past goes.  I shy away from statements from "ex's".

Oh I see. Thank you.
agree about ex's

[SunnyinTX]

The vegetation is really a moot point. The vegetation could have been from any site. The vegetation claim alone does not stand as proof the remains were originally in that spot.

What are you smoking???   I have a headache and you just made it worse. The vegetation is moot??   Pass the duchie to the right please!!

I am going to go have a glass of wine with my hunny....TTY monks who are not smoking funny stuff and drinking koolaide tomorrow morning

[Anna]

I always wondered if Convicted Felon Casey Anthony had the remains in the freezer for a day or so as she backed that car right up against it.  And had some frozen foods in the car when Tony picked her up, etc.

Anna, I wondered that also, but wouldnt she fear the parents would accidently come across Caylee?? eeww.. if its true, she brought frozen food from home..I wonder if caylee was laying on it or under it
I still think that the playhouse or sandbox is more likely

Was the sandbox one of those big plastic turtles with a top?  Another possibility. 

But she did back right up to that freezer.  Maybe they don't use it that often.  Or maybe it locks and she hid the key.

Don't guess we will ever know but at least we know Kronk didn't kill the baby so he is totally irrelevant.

[Cappuccino]

I happen to agree with the defense that the body was placed in that location at a later date. I don't know who or why someone did it, but I firnly believe it happened. And as for Kronk, he's a snake, imo. Something isn't right with him. His "I stopped on the side of the road to pee and stumbled across remains" is a CROCK of BS, imo.

I stand on the side of the forensic scientists for the prosecution and believe 100% the body was placed there in June 2008, not at a later date. 

Ditto......even their own experts state she has been there for 6 months (except that quack Bock who thought a coyote of dog buried a bone)......also, IIRC Tim Miller who surely has seen his share of bodies found stated the day he saw her and the depression in the ground, vines growing thru her skull and bag that she had been there for ~6 months

  Stawberry something isnt right with Kronk-but KC is mother of the year--Lee is the typical brother-George and Cindy are just the couple next store-oh they used to live with her daughter and a beautiful baby named Caylee -but now they live alone.  Yes Kronk is a snake

Glad someone else sees right through Kronk.

Seriously, despite whatever has been in Kronk's past (real or fabricated) or the fact that he may have wanted a reward (fact or fiction) he found Caylee's remains nearly 6 months after her murder & a major tropical storm flooded those woods for MONTHS.   After his first calls, he couldnt have gotten to that specific spot if he wanted to in August, Tropical Faye went thru central Florida approx Aug 18/19, 2008 for weeks.  If he wanted a reward he did NOT have to move a body at all so the theory is absurd.   Regardless, Caylee was dead in mid June (murdered IMHO) the world didnt know a thing until 31 days later because her mother concealed what she did & had no intention of coming forward.    Major ground searches didnt begin until the 3rd/4th week in July forward...many searches were called off in that area due to flooding.

Putting suspicion on him is like putting the same suspicion on anyone that searched with TES teams & many many others independently.  I will say this, this case will cause most people to never want to volunteer in a search every again & that is a travesty inandofitself.

[cherjers]

Oh my GAWD!  I can't take this anymore.  Isn't George asking the exact same questions as Finnell?  All they have him doing is draw on pics.  Linda!  Please put us out of our misery!

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one annoyed by George. Even his voice drives me crazy.

Yes and there we go. George is done and we gained NOTHING!!!

 

Agreed. Every time he examines a witness is a waste.

Disagree completely. On cross examination-- they CAN'T confront the witness with phone records etc. What they are doing is merely asking questions that they can confront during the rebuttal.  Don't worry folks -- the Prosecution will wrap up ALL of these thing during rebuttal.

Completely agree!!!

But, but...isn't the rebuttal case just that...a case of rebuttal for what the defense put on?  The prosecution will be able to bring their evidence to "rebut".

The rebuttal is not like cross-examination where they can only ask questions about what the defense questions.

Isn't the rebuttal "case" as case of information with prosecutions "answers" to those questions.

Totally agree that the prosecution WILL get this all cleared up.

IMO, the rebuttal case will move very quickly, with many witnesses on and off the stand....point, after point, after point.

I bet they used throw away phone -remeber cindy with the bat  phones