Lively Case Discussion #608 4/29 - 4/30/2007

[klaasend]

Mishy, that looks like Jug's script. I have seen it personally. I believe it is his, but hard to know for sure. I doubt anyone would make those comments if it wasn't infact them. I believe that Jug did write that.

I'm fairly certain it was Jug

[Observer]

Looks like the same belt to me as well..But unfortunately Dennis Jacobs threw it away...I beleave...Didnt he??

Speaking of Dennis Jacobs..The Dutch must know this guy is dirty as hell..How do they expect to solve this case without blasting a hole through the coverup???

that can be the only reason they need so many KLPD guys on Aruba... I cant see any other reason.. and when they asked to carry guns...what was that all about *******? They know they can carry guns.

Your right..Aruba is a dangerous place for people asking questions...It's a place where Mobster's,Govt officials and Major Drug Dealers do as they like..I am sure the dutch have great intelligence about this island.

No chance in hell either that the dutch think that the ALE just made mistakes. If they really want to solve this and have there questions asked they know exactly who to talk to. I think that was there first stop when they got to the island. 32 KLPD all together? 24 of them are Investigaters? Hmm..Maybee they payed attention to what Paulus told De Vries..

Paul van der Sloot said in a phone conversation with Peter de Vries that they had a lot to tell but they will not do that just now because of people involved who could be hurt by this information

******* ... Joran Van der Sloot made a statement in the ACA interview akin to his father's words.

Janet


Joran Van der Sloot
A Current Affair (ACA)
September 26, 2005

Reporter: Well, I think if you can explain to people what really happened, and you were really forthcoming, the more forthcoming you are, the more chance there will be for you to get on with your life.
 
Joran van der Sloot: One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.

Transcript Credit: Scrux.com

Your right!! He hinted at that again in the currect affair article..I guess the sloots felt awfully safe for them to make those comments..They figure the people who helped them are untouchable. Papa sloot was issuing a threat..He goes down..Everyone goes down with him..

[Rob]

*******- I believe this could all be a charade.. they know exactly who confessed and still do nothing to re-interview him... total joke.

Well dutch law says they need new evidence to question him..lol

From my understanding it was Dompig who did the interrogations the day he confessed. They took it off the record cause it passed the time limit??

I hope not dude..I just dont seeing this being resolved without some dirty corrupt people going down with the sloots...If they really want to solve this Jacobs,Dompig and a few others have to be busted. No other way around it.

want the list?

here it is..this is from some I wrote previously.

Those that played a role in the purposeful destruction of evidence and tampering with the case's outcome will have to be charged with those accessory crimes. i.e. Edwin Comemencia, Gerold Dompig, Jan Van Der Straaten, Dolph Richardson, Trudy Hassel, Ronnie Bernadina, Jules Sambo, Coizy Kronendijk, Ben Voc \ King, Judge J. S. Kuiperdal, Judge Bob de \ Wit, Rudy Croes and Nelson Oduber. Without charges against the people I just named there will be a repeat of what occurred in Natalee Holloway's case.

[Rob]

Mishy, that looks like Jug's script. I have seen it personally. I believe it is his, but hard to know for sure. I doubt anyone would make those comments if it wasn't infact them. I believe that Jug did write that.

I'm fairly certain it was Jug

Yes Klaas, it is Jug.. his CAP key is locked up tight!!!      

[MuffyBee]

What about ANITA?

[Tylergal]

What about ANITA?

the facilitator.

[Observer]

*******- I believe this could all be a charade.. they know exactly who confessed and still do nothing to re-interview him... total joke.

Well dutch law says they need new evidence to question him..lol

From my understanding it was Dompig who did the interrogations the day he confessed. They took it off the record cause it passed the time limit??

I hope not dude..I just dont seeing this being resolved without some dirty corrupt people going down with the sloots...If they really want to solve this Jacobs,Dompig and a few others have to be busted. No other way around it.

want the list?

here it is..this is from some I wrote previously.

Those that played a role in the purposeful destruction of evidence and tampering with the case's outcome will have to be charged with those accessory crimes. i.e. Edwin Comemencia, Gerold Dompig, Jan Van Der Straaten, Dolph Richardson, Trudy Hassel, Ronnie Bernadina, Jules Sambo, Coizy Kronendijk, Ben Voc \ King, Judge J. S. Kuiperdal, Judge Bob de \ Wit, Rudy Croes and Nelson Oduber. Without charges against the people I just named there will be a repeat of what occurred in Natalee Holloway's case.

I agree totally!!  I just dont see it happening either...They need to cut some major deals and bend dutch law for justice to be served...We all know it started off as close friends of the sloots but it ended with Rudy Croes and Oduber.

If Joran and Paulus are nailed for this there is no doubt they will bring everyone down with them. Even the Kalpoes are more than confident in this coverup as we can tell by there 800million dollar lawsuit.

[MuffyBee]

Anita used and abused her position as a school teacher and the wife of a judge in training.  I think she managed to shut people up over at the school, to cover for her delicious sporter.  Who was the teacher that left fairly quickly after this started coming down?  Anita is a disgrace to motherhood.  Bet she is a controlling you-know-what.  Everyone is looking to nail Paulus.  How much you wanna bet Anita is up to her snout in this.  I find it quite interesting she has managed to stay outta the limelight most of the time.

[Observer]

Update on Miami Travel Show..

Today, Sunday 29 April 2005 I just got home, no traffic so it only took 4 hrs 10 min, 269 miles. I do have many pics and as soon as I put them into computer they will be posted. Today was not that busy like yesterday was but we had a chance to actually talk to English speaking people lol, all the buttons are gone almost all the flyer's also, again I put the 8 ft banner up on the marquee, that was not on there property, thats why I did it, I am bold, also another one we tied to two trees. So many said they would pray, and last night we were on the Spanish news channel, they were talking about the protest, I love it. Got to show today at 10:00am, it started to rain around 2:30pm, plus no one was coming then, I went to the store and got me some food, then back to fill up van, NO ONE was even driving in place. thats about it folks, pics will be next.
grass

[lnichols]

I know.. it has been a long time.. but hearing the news of the searches brings me here and only here...
I hope everyone is well... and let us hope this time they do it right....
lnichols... AKA Captain Jack..LOL

[Tamikosmom]

Looks like the same belt to me as well..But unfortunately Dennis Jacobs threw it away...I beleave...Didnt he??

Speaking of Dennis Jacobs..The Dutch must know this guy is dirty as hell..How do they expect to solve this case without blasting a hole through the coverup???

THE BELT

Art Wood
DANA PRETZER
July 2, 2006

WOOD:  I was kicking around in the sand and a belt popped up so I put it in my car. I asked the cops if they wanted it and they said to bring it in in  the morning. I went back and hooked up with Eduardo.  We were going to interview some people.  Later, I was making a mental note to take the belt to the police but I kept thinking I saw that belt before.  So I went to the newspaper and started looking at file photos and I find that picture of Joran chocking somebody with the belt.

It's a distinctive belt.  It has some kind of striations, brown leather, very wide, good thick leather belt and amazingly it's a real long belt. When I took it to the police, the lead investigator at that time, one of the chief people was a guy was Tromp, I gave it personally to him and he took a statement from me.  He said "Wow, this is identical".  This is important. I later find out they did nothing with it.  They didn't sent to Holland.  They determined the belt was too old.  It had been in the sand long time.

Let me tell you something.  For them to say it was too old and would not fit Joran. I said nobody said Joran wore this belt,.  It was a prop in the photo.  He is choking a kid in the photo.  They missed the point.  So actually, I had gone through an attorney to get the belt back.  I was going to send to a lab myself. We don't know what happened to the belt

[mishy]

I fell asleep for a lil bit and you all almost changed threads again...

These Sloots sure get people talking .... about their dastardly deeds and they plow through life oblivious to all the pain they cause...

remember when Beth gave Anita the Natalee bracelet?  I just wanna puke when she made the remarks about how she would wear it.. and they keep a picture of Natalee in the house and a candle burning... if I remember correctly.. she did say all that...

I am down to my last Natalee bracelet.. I put a new one on whenever the letters fade...only one left... something is going to happen...!!!!

....and how when they were "ambushed" in NY Anita was stilllll wearing that bracelet, and yet none of them can use Natalee's given name when speaking about her....it's always "that girl" or "the girl" ..

BB, I'm thinking that Anita was wearing that bracelet for the occasion only and that she hasn't been wearing it all along; she just wanted everyone to think that she had  

[AZSunny]

I know.. it has been a long time.. but hearing the news of the searches brings me here and only here...
I hope everyone is well... and let us hope this time they do it right....
lnichols... AKA Captain Jack..LOL

Well,  look who is back!!!  welcome!! this has been like old home week the last few days.  

[Rob]

*******- I did a cost analysis on this case about 8 months ago. I came up with the figure of 600 million including the loss of the Ritz Carlton.

Add in the losses since then and it is around 800 million.. monies on and off the books.

Add in the Kalpoes suit and their expenses incurred by their attorneys..

Total 1.5 billion minimum.

As for those involved in the ulitmate outcome of the case.. they had no crystal ball and thoughtb this was gonna be as easy as Max Devries...

Here is where Janet chimes in and says ~ they didnt count on one remarkable and determined woman named Beth Twitty... they screwed themselves..

I would love to see a class action lawsuit by and not limited to -
Beth Twitty, Dave and Matt Holloway, Yvonne and Dominique Devries, the Larson Family, The remaining members of the Labouovic Family, The Bradley's, The Family of Gary Makings, and The Family of Richard Henriquez.
That will frost their flakes!

[San]

Anita used and abused her position as a school teacher and the wife of a judge in training.  I think she managed to shut people up over at the school, to cover for her delicious sporter.  Who was the teacher that left fairly quickly after this started coming down?  Anita is a disgrace to motherhood.  Bet she is a controlling you-know-what.  Everyone is looking to nail Paulus.  How much you wanna bet Anita is up to her snout in this.  I find it quite interesting she has managed to stay outta the limelight most of the time.

   

[Rob]

I know.. it has been a long time.. but hearing the news of the searches brings me here and only here...
I hope everyone is well... and let us hope this time they do it right....
lnichols... AKA Captain Jack..LOL

I'm back and glad to see you too Inichols... I never forget an SN...

[Kat_Gram]

This is it, don't know why or who some of these ppl are or what they said.
They did interview alot of the workers at the casino at the Hi and the Wyndham. Plus several security guys. I did find a few intriguing things ( to me ). Like Paul Brough. ??? Why did they want his phone records ? I am not going to pick out any more names and put them out here on the FP. Some of these ppl in the US were probably trying to help and really should not have their names out here for us to discuss.
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They sure looked at Guido . and his supervisor at the HI casino.

If this is a matter of litigation in which Satish & Deepak are suing citizens of the USA, then every printed period, comma, quote and name are a matter of public record.  You have divulged nothing that every citizen in this country is not entitled to know even down to the color of Deepak's pubic hair if it is in the record and any information that has come forth, unless it poses a threat to the USA. Then you have to find that information in the New York Times.[/quote] lol  
I guess so, what frosts my flakes is that Joran has some of these statements. Hannie C mentioned the content of one of these. From Chalie Croes. Sept 3. She even knew he didn't sign them When does the Prime Suspect and the Ugly World have PV's in an ongoing investigation ?

[Tamikosmom]

*******- I believe this could all be a charade.. they know exactly who confessed and still do nothing to re-interview him... total joke.

Well dutch law says they need new evidence to question him..lol

From my understanding it was Dompig who did the interrogations the day he confessed. They took it off the record cause it passed the time limit??

I hope not dude..I just dont seeing this being resolved without some dirty corrupt people going down with the sloots...If they really want to solve this Jacobs,Dompig and a few others have to be busted. No other way around it.

want the list?

here it is..this is from some I wrote previously.

Those that played a role in the purposeful destruction of evidence and tampering with the case's outcome will have to be charged with those accessory crimes. i.e. Edwin Comemencia, Gerold Dompig, Jan Van Der Straaten, Dolph Richardson, Trudy Hassel, Ronnie Bernadina, Jules Sambo, Coizy Kronendijk, Ben Voc \ King, Judge J. S. Kuiperdal, Judge Bob de \ Wit, Rudy Croes and Nelson Oduber. Without charges against the people I just named there will be a repeat of what occurred in Natalee Holloway's case.

I agree totally!!  I just dont see it happening either...They need to cut some major deals and bend dutch law for justice to be served...We all know it started off as close friends of the sloots but it ended with Rudy Croes and Oduber.

If Joran and Paulus are nailed for this there is no doubt they will bring everyone down with them. Even the Kalpoes are more than confident in this coverup as we can tell by there 800million dollar lawsuit.

******* ... the following is my suspicion regarding the outcome of the Natalee Holloway case.
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I contend that it is too late for Aruba/Holland to turn back the clock. The fallout is too huge to comprehend … Paulus Van der Sloot … the sons of the elite … those at all levels of the Dutch/Aruban administrations who participated in the coverup as well as … the exposure of all of Aruba’s dirty little secrets encompassing drugs … gambling … prostitution … pornography …money laundering …

I suspect that Natalee Holloway’s remains will be returned to her loving family … her country … a futile appeasement attempt. Joran … maybe Deepak … will be held accountable … accountable for disposing of Natalee after she “apparently” died of a drug overdose.  The consequences ... a slap on the wrist.

Did Shango's "theory" not imply that the Joran (Lamb) would be the sacrifice while Paulus (Elder) and the "powers that be" (Dirty Hands) would be spared?

Janet
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AMIGOE - April 28, 2007
ORANJESTAD – … A highly placed government official told Amigoe last week that the team expects to find Holloway’s remains soon in Aruba …
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Jug Twitty
NANCY GRACE - August 29, 2005
TWITTY: … it`s a terrible mistake, it`s an accident, he`s still underage, he`s a minor, even if they killed Natalee he probably would have gotten off with about five years.
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Jug Twitty
‘Scarborough Country’ - July 14, 2005
TWITTY: … Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she’s alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we’ll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

[Tiger]

anita the enabler.Check the fountain.It looks new.The Enquirer has old pictures.Hi monkeys,the Tiger is on the prowl

[Observer]

*******- I did a cost analysis on this case about 8 months ago. I came up with the figure of 600 million including the loss of the Ritz Carlton.

Add in the losses since then and it is around 800 million.. monies on and off the books.

Add in the Kalpoes suit and their expenses incurred by their attorneys..

Total 1.5 billion minimum.

As for those involved in the ulitmate outcome of the case.. they had no crystal ball and thoughtb this was gonna be as easy as Max Devries...

Here is where Janet chimes in and says ~ they didnt count on one remarkable and determined woman named Beth Twitty... they screwed themselves..

I would love to see a class action lawsuit by and not limited to -
Beth Twitty, Dave and Matt Holloway, Yvonne and Dominique Devries, the Larson Family, The remaining members of the Labouovic Family, The Bradley's, The Family of Gary Makings, and The Family of Richard Henriquez.
That will frost their flakes!

LOL!! Ok that 800 million makes sense now..Somethin awful fishy about that lawsuit..I guess K2 feel confident in the files that were handed to the dutch.

BTW: Your right..DeVries,Larson and others vanished without a trace..Beth and Dave got the exact same runaround as they did..What Beth accomplished really is remarkeable..Eventually They had to issue threats just to get this family off of that island...