Lively Case Discussion #611 5/1 - 5/2/2007

[thirdstrike]

Here's my only issue with the "concrete pouring" theory:

We all know that if anything, Paulus was well educated in the legal system and the ALE's investigative practices.  His notorious "no body, no case" advice is a glaing example of that.  This being the case, couldn't you assume that he'd be well aware of the risk of his encasing Natalee's remains in concrete on his very own property?  Surely all it would take would be a simple search to uncover her remains, and then all bets would be off for him and his son?  He may be a lot of things (mostly BAD), but unintelligent don't seem to be one of them...

I do believe Natalee's body was staged on that property for a very short amount of time.  Once they had the opportunity, they moved her...most likely to the ocean.

Thoughts?

[Spock]

What exactly was Paulus' statement to the police regarding 4 am, McDonalds, Natalee and Joran?

It wasn't a statement to police but a wiretap of PVDS phone in which he spoke of it.  The previously unknown wiretap information was produced at the last PVDS hearing to collect money which was denied, partially due to this wiretap information.

Do you have a copy of that wiretap and also Deepak's email where he reportedly says he had sex with Natalee? These two statements are really starting to bother me, I would like to look at them again.

[thirdstrike]

the DUTCH team Sees the ELEPHANT in the living room


ALE attempted to make it DISAPPEAR


elephants dont disappear



unlesss you think that magicians and illusionists have REAL POWERS



note.........they dont have special powers  

What do you mean...they don't?!?!  So, you're telling me that I paid over $300 in Vegas, and didn't witness authentic powers being exhibited by a true wizard?!?!

I feel dirty and used...  

[memphis]

Here's my only issue with the "concrete pouring" theory:

We all know that if anything, Paulus was well educated in the legal system and the ALE's investigative practices.  His notorious "no body, no case" advice is a glaing example of that.  This being the case, couldn't you assume that he'd be well aware of the risk of his encasing Natalee's remains in concrete on his very own property?  Surely all it would take would be a simple search to uncover her remains, and then all bets would be off for him and his son?  He may be a lot of things (mostly BAD), but unintelligent don't seem to be one of them...

I do believe Natalee's body was staged on that property for a very short amount of time.  Once they had the opportunity, they moved her...most likely to the ocean.

Thoughts?

Agreed, and well said.

That's  exactly what I think.

[robots]

the DUTCH team Sees the ELEPHANT in the living room


ALE attempted to make it DISAPPEAR


elephants dont disappear



unlesss you think that magicians and illusionists have REAL POWERS



note.........they dont have special powers  

What do you mean...they don't?!?!  So, you're telling me that I paid over $300 in Vegas, and didn't witness authentic powers being exhibited by a true wizard?!?!

I feel dirty and used...  

 

[friend of monkeys]

Spock-----someone will help.....monkeys must be at lunch..
i am going too........

HI ROBOTS!
HI KLASS!

[Observer]

Hi Hi

I think they released Paulus from suspect status so he could be sworn in to the Bar of Aruba and the Netherland Antilles. Then open up his own law firm.


Carlo & van der Sloot is located in the island of Aruba, Dutch Caribbean. We are a full service law firm, with attorneys who practice in all areas of the law. The attorneys of our law firm are members of the Bar of Aruba and of the Netherlands Antilles and are licensed to practice in both jurisdictions.

[klaasend]

What exactly was Paulus' statement to the police regarding 4 am, McDonalds, Natalee and Joran?

It wasn't a statement to police but a wiretap of PVDS phone in which he spoke of it.  The previously unknown wiretap information was produced at the last PVDS hearing to collect money which was denied, partially due to this wiretap information.

Do you have a copy of that wiretap and also Deepak's email where he reportedly says he had sex with Natalee? These two statements are really starting to bother me, I would like to look at them again.

The wiretap info was from a Diario article as relayed by one of their reporters that were outside the courthouse and not dismissed by Joran supporters.  Red did a front page on it, I'll try to find it.  I don't have time to search right now though as I need to run to the store.  

Deepak emails are in the Important Case Document forum.

[robots]

Spock-----someone will help.....monkeys must be at lunch..
i am going too........

HI ROBOTS!
HI KLASS!

 

[klaasend]

Need to run to the store, brb

[snoopy]

How long would it take the Kalpoes to go from their house to Joran's? From Joran's to CnC? Any guesses?

2K to JVDS 20 - 25 minutes

JVDS to C&C's  15 minutes

I found my notes

Howdy Monkeys!!  

[IndyDan]

OT-- Klaas, is there any way for me to turn off  the avi's and graphics on here  temporarily? I looked in my Profile and didn't see anything, but still hoping....    I'm at work, and all the sparkly's and pics. make it so obvious I am not doing 'work' stuff......   Hard to keep up hiding my screen and reading at the same time.  I do have my priorities!  

LOL!!

[Observer]

Nothing new today? You would think all those KLPD are busy doing something...

[friend of monkeys]

Need to run to the store, brb

u go to the store alot....lol

  r u really off having a quickie????

[robots]

Need to run to the store, brb

u go to the store alot....lol

  r u really off having a quickie????

hehehehehehee

CODE WORD = ??????????????????????????????

[thirdstrike]

Need to run to the store, brb

u go to the store alot....lol

  r u really off having a quickie????

     

[snoopy]

Also found in my notes that the new concrete around the pool area was done between June 12 - 15, 2005.  Beth was at the home on June 21st .

Rock On!!  

FOM you bad monkey!!  

[nikkibnurse]

Forgive me if someone else has posted this prior but I was just watching the replays of Greta on the FP last night, and read thru the comments and found this one made a short while ago?

It's #19 by Melissa?

I cannot listen to Julia Renfro’s irritating voice. I am tired of hearing her say how much money Aruba has spent on the Natalee Holloway “vanishment”. I lived in Aruba and I know more about Julia than I care to. For instance, her children are fathered by different men - the last being her married black boy friend. She should just keep her mouth shut and perhaps take a look in the mirror.

Comment by Melissa | May 2, 2007, 11:06 am

     

And wouldn't that increase her chances of being somehow directly related to an interested party in this mess....go Melissa, tell more.

Just reading and catching up and saw this....

I am the mother of two children by different fathers..ALot of you guys have known me for a longtime...Even though I dont like Julia Renfro..AT ALL...Lets try and keep these kind of comments to a minimum, if yall dont mind...
I know for a fact that I am not involved in anything shady, nor are my chances of being so higher because I have two kids by two different dads....I am a very responsible, intelligent human being...I am a single mom that busts her hump, has no man in her life, and would go to the ends of the earth to do the right thing...
So, if we are gonna judge, lets just on what we know as fact...and not on someone's personal issues....Just my humble opinion....

[BTgirl]

Also found in my notes that the new concrete around the pool area was done between June 12 - 15, 2005.  Beth was at the home on June 21st .

Rock On!!  

FOM you bad monkey!!  

Pssstttt.....I think FOM has s-e-x on the brain.  

[blah]

Also found in my notes that the new concrete around the pool area was done between June 12 - 15, 2005.  Beth was at the home on June 21st .

Rock On!!  

FOM you bad monkey!!  

isnt that right after the confession was given/retracted?