Lively Case Discussion #612 5/2 - 5/4/2007

[2NJSons_Mom]

Peeking in...

In the filing  you have spellings of Menses and Meneses

Aruban white pages has a
Menes Jeane A  
Willem De Zwijgerstraat 7 ..................584-6619

I'm just wondering..

Ah, that's interesting, Oldfart....

[AZLady]

Oops, sorry.  I meant to write seven interviews, not eight, for Meneses.  Anyway, someone in the family or someone whose been to Aruba might know his connection to the case.

[robots]

PAULUS was the CREEP in the VIDEO



they can spin it anyway they want

and the DUTCH will REVEAL it was him
 
BET IT ALL

[AZLady]

I'm with you, Robots.  It was Paulus.  The Dutch are all over this case like flies on honey.

[klaasend]

Klaas, can you ask Dave Holloway if he knows how Andres Meneses might be involved in the case?  Since the kid was interviewed eight time, Dave might know who he is and what his relationship is with the three perps.

I don't correspond with Dave Holloway directly but I can ask Red.  I actually doubt Dave knows anything about him, but I could be wrong.

[Lala'sMom]

I'm with you, Robots.  It was Paulus.  The Dutch are all over this case like flies on honey.

Here in the South it's not honey that the flies are on. LOL  

[robots]

I'm with you, Robots.  It was Paulus.  The Dutch are all over this case like flies on honey.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
they are ON it


and when the day comes

they will say

1+1+1 =3

and they will also SAY
ARUBA LAW INFORCEMENT can not do simple math    

[Tylergal]

I'm with you, Robots.  It was Paulus.  The Dutch are all over this case like flies on honey.

I still think they should dig up the pool, all the concrete around the sloot house.  Heah, dig up the house.  There might be something there and it would certainly improve the esthetics.

[Tylergal]

I'm with you, Robots.  It was Paulus.  The Dutch are all over this case like flies on honey.

Here in the South it's not honey that the flies are on. LOL  

        Good composters, them flies.

[Silverfox]

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, Silver Fox, wherever you are!  Good to see you and I do believe these little pimps are an extension of their elders.  Absolutely whether or not there are ever arrest of the elders; there certainly is a moral connection.  These young thugs learned from example.

Hi Tylergal.... actually it is now 1:37 AM here -- on Friday the 4th.... heh heh, since I am in the future I can tell you no news yet  

I have always felt the elders were involved more deeply than meets the eye...

most certainly, if nothing else, for obstruction of justice --

But I am also suspecting that "Dirty Hands" is a very highly placed governmental official and this has been who everyone has been afraid to speak of except by cryptic Shango -- whom I believe to be real...

[shadow]

Hey Monkeys . . . Haven't been around in a while but have been lurking some. It's really good to see all the smart Monkeys are still here for Natalee.

[klaasend]

NOTE:

Kermit posted yesterday, why would an Airline Pilot/Photographer by the name of Andres Meneses have given 7 interviews in a kidnapping/murder case.

I do not see in the Motion to Compel where it's referenced that Andres Meneses is an Airline Pilot/Photographer.  I assumed Kermit had copied that information of Meneses description from the Motion to Compel but I don't see it there.  It's entirely possible the Andres Meneses that we have been looking at, the airline photographer, is not the same one.

[shadow]

Thinking about elders and Paulus' role and the discrepencies between why Joran stated could not go to his house with Natalee.
Regarding the judge and friend of Paulus who originally barred the more extensive search of the VDS property. Was he staying at the VDS residence the night Natalee disappeared or only the following night? Does anyone know or remember hearing this? TIA

[shadow]

I have always considered the possibility that if films were being made in Aruba by the pimps or others involved with the elders, transmitting it via the internet or cell phones could be tracked, and probably was not the way it was done. However a laptop or a portable external hard drive could easily be transported, even out of the country via airplane. That is if they have a pilot.

[Ebb]

http://www.socialistinternational.org/5Congress/XXII-SAOPAULO/xxii-participants-s.html

found this from 2003, edited out names in between

XXII CONGRESO DE LA INTERNACIONAL SOCIALISTA
São Paulo, 27-29 de octubre de 2003

ARUBA
Movimiento Electoral del Pueblo, MEP
Nelson Oduber
Rudy Croes
Junior Arends
Mervin Ras
Elvis Hill
Glenda Oduber-Croes


Unión Internacional de Juventudes Socialistas, IUSY
Andrés Troya Meneses

[Observer]

http://www.topix.net/content/prweb/0869134149109215631425189409450719705990

Anybody call this Andred Meneses yet?Media Contact:
Photos.aero
Andres Meneses
1-800-948-1410

[Tylergal]

I have always considered the possibility that if films were being made in Aruba by the pimps or others involved with the elders, transmitting it via the internet or cell phones could be tracked, and probably was not the way it was done. However a laptop or a portable external hard drive could easily be transported, even out of the country via airplane. That is if they have a pilot.

Definitely on the short list.

[vms]

NOTE:

Kermit posted yesterday, why would an Airline Pilot/Photographer by the name of Andres Meneses have given 7 interviews in a kidnapping/murder case.

I do not see in the Motion to Compel where it's referenced that Andres Meneses is an Airline Pilot/Photographer.  I assumed Kermit had copied that information of Meneses description from the Motion to Compel but I don't see it there.  It's entirely possible the Andres Meneses that we have been looking at, the airline photographer, is not the same one.

Thank you.
That's what I was trying to get across but did a very poor job of it...

[klaasend]

NOTE:

Kermit posted yesterday, why would an Airline Pilot/Photographer by the name of Andres Meneses have given 7 interviews in a kidnapping/murder case.

I do not see in the Motion to Compel where it's referenced that Andres Meneses is an Airline Pilot/Photographer.  I assumed Kermit had copied that information of Meneses description from the Motion to Compel but I don't see it there.  It's entirely possible the Andres Meneses that we have been looking at, the airline photographer, is not the same one.

Thank you.
That's what I was trying to get across but did a very poor job of it...

LOL - well it's really hard to look through all the documents the way they are in the filing.  I went cross-eyed looking for airline pilot/photographer.

[Rob]

FBI agent I touched on last week.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/report_iran_may.html