Lively Case Discussion #612 5/2 - 5/4/2007

[blah]

It could be she was handed off at about the time of the 2:35 call to DK. That call lastest six minutes. Andre, Guido, and Steve have to fit into this somehow. We know very little of their timelines that night. Steve did not give that alibi for "no reason". IMO

Thank you Spock.. yes you're right we do not know their time-lines.. is this Andres providing a time-line?

The abducted twice in one night by people not related to each other just doesn't work for me... what are the odd?

So maybe they did hand Natalee off?

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, who the heck were the people following Deepak out of town in that white car? Could these be a second group, names we haven't heard before?

Dayhiker- I don't think anyone is ignoring your question... I don't think anyone knows... jmo...

No body.  Just some kids staying at the HI.  Trying to say they were some of the MB kids and they did something to Natalee.  Feeble attempt to connect MB kids to Natalee's disappearance.  They claim the car was rental and turned in at the HI.

Another Designer Lie.


JMO,

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I agree with you Anna, thats the way I have always felt about it.

[Anna]

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, who the heck were the people following Deepak out of town in that white car? Could these be a second group, names we haven't heard before?

Dayhiker- I don't think anyone is ignoring your question... I don't think anyone knows... jmo...

Just throwing that theory out there Rob. If I recall that video this car was right on Deepak's tail, and wasn't there a statement that mentioned a car of guys harassing them? (which of course, could be a lie)

     

I didn't eve see it in the original video.  Are you sure about that Dayhiker?  I think they made this up to try to make a MB connection.  I don't think anybody was following them at all and I sure didn't see them in the video.

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No, Anna, there was no car in the original video.  This was something that the J2K added to try to connect the MB kids or somebody staying at the HI in Natalee's disappearance.

If there was anybody at all, just tourists.  J2k a bit paranoid because of their devious plot.  Perhaps they were fearful some of the MB kids would chase them down and take her away from them and were relieved if the car even existed to see it turn in at HI.

Not a factor in anything.

JMO

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[2NJSons_Mom]

Found that Andres Meneses has photo for June, 2005 on another site...hope the link works:

http://tinyurl.com/2y4wd8

Adironron, I found the same...no pictures in Aruba....FL, VA, Costa Rica....

Looks like he spent some time in Virginia during mid-May and headed somewhere else (probably home) on May 21st.  No pics between May 21st and June 4th.

  We were thinking and typing the same thought...

[Tamikosmom]

Right..Dont forget about the APB that was out for a white rental car. I think they said maybee a nissan.

Fox News
FOX NEWS
June 7, 2005

Authorities were overheard on a police frequency Sunday evening issuing a bulletin to stop a rented white Toyota in connection with the disappearance of the 5-foot-4-inch blonde. Dompig declined to confirm it.

[Tylergal]

Anna, see my note about the car pulling into the HI and the Shivas not building sand castles.  I am wondering if they pulled in here and there was a movement of the sporter and Natalee to the white car at the HI, if Shivas do not build sand castles (lie, or go to beach), either way.

Joran has already mentioned that he gave his drink cup to a kid from MB.  I figured he threw that in, just in case there was a cup he used with XTC in it found nearby, he could say that it had no drugs in it when he handed it off.  That sporter is transparent, like his mother and her attire.

[Anna]

Joran SAID he handed his cup to kids from MB but that was still at C&C.  Never heard anything about a stop off at HI and think MB kids would have seen them.

JMO

[truthseeker2]

Found that Andres Meneses has photo for June, 2005 on another site...hope the link works:

http://tinyurl.com/2y4wd8

Adironron, I found the same...no pictures in Aruba....FL, VA, Costa Rica....

Looks like he spent some time in Virginia during mid-May and headed somewhere else (probably home) on May 21st.  No pics between May 21st and June 4th.

  We were thinking and typing the same thought...

Yes, we were!  

[truthseeker2]

Right..Dont forget about the APB that was out for a white rental car. I think they said maybee a nissan.

Fox News
FOX NEWS
June 7, 2005

Authorities were overheard on a police frequency Sunday evening issuing a bulletin to stop a rented white Toyota in connection with the disappearance of the 5-foot-4-inch blonde. Dompig declined to confirm it.

I wonder if this is the car that that 'reporter' was following thinking Natalee was in the back seat??

[Anna]

I agree with you Anna, thats the way I have always felt about it.

Well, Hi, Blah!

I am surprised you can see me as I am having one of those days when I seem to be invisible!

Even better that you agree.

I don't think there was any white car and if there was, it was just some tourist and they were paranoid about it because they knew they were up to no good.

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[2NJSons_Mom]

Found that Andres Meneses has photo for June, 2005 on another site...hope the link works:

http://tinyurl.com/2y4wd8

Adironron, I found the same...no pictures in Aruba....FL, VA, Costa Rica....

Looks like he spent some time in Virginia during mid-May and headed somewhere else (probably home) on May 21st.  No pics between May 21st and June 4th.

  We were thinking and typing the same thought...

Yes, we were!  

5/21 & 6/4 were Saturdays in 2005....that's a two week span...he could have been anywhere between VA & Costa Rica..

[Anna]

This Andres is questioned as a witness and not a suspect.

The only kind of person I can think of who would have been called in this many times would be the bartender who got the call from sobbing one allegedly claiming to know more or have been a party to Natalee's disappearance.  It could also be a bartender from Carlos and Charlies that night.

Or it could be a another security guard.  It just about has to be somebody on the ground and present that Sunday night.  Bartenders just come to mind as people who should have been questioned that many times.

I have looked as much as I have had time today but have not located statements taken from bartenders.  But as slow as ALE was maybe I have not gotten far enough.

JMO

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[truthseeker2]

5/21 & 6/4 were Saturdays in 2005....that's a two week span...he could have been anywhere between VA & Costa Rica..

There is an 'in-flight' pic labeled 'Florida-USA' and it's dated May 21, 2005.  Might have been headed back to Costa Rica then??

[robots]

It could be she was handed off at about the time of the 2:35 call to DK. That call lastest six minutes. Andre, Guido, and Steve have to fit into this somehow. We know very little of their timelines that night. Steve did not give that alibi for "no reason". IMO

Thank you Spock.. yes you're right we do not know their time-lines.. is this Andres providing a time-line?

The abducted twice in one night by people not related to each other just doesn't work for me... what are the odd?

So maybe they did hand Natalee off?

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, who the heck were the people following Deepak out of town in that white car? Could these be a second group, names we haven't heard before?

Dayhiker- I don't think anyone is ignoring your question... I don't think anyone knows... jmo...

No body.  Just some kids staying at the HI.  Trying to say they were some of the MB kids and they did something to Natalee.  Feeble attempt to connect MB kids to Natalee's disappearance.  They claim the car was rental and turned in at the HI.

Another Designer Lie.


JMO,

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I agree with you Anna, thats the way I have always felt about it.

YEP

[2NJSons_Mom]

Anna,

If J2K mentioned white car, then it may not have been so, as you've said, or it could have been a black car....San  & others always says, think the opposite of what they say.  

 

[Observer]

Right..Dont forget about the APB that was out for a white rental car. I think they said maybee a nissan.

Fox News
FOX NEWS
June 7, 2005

Authorities were overheard on a police frequency Sunday evening issuing a bulletin to stop a rented white Toyota in connection with the disappearance of the 5-foot-4-inch blonde. Dompig declined to confirm it.

I wonder if this is the car that that 'reporter' was following thinking Natalee was in the back seat??

How did they know it was a rental? That means someone got a good look at it I think JK2 brought it up in there statements because witnesses saw that car following them from C&C.

I think it is strange that we never heard where Deepak made his quick stop after the bar. I read on BFN someone said it was a house. I know I heard Deepak's Lawyer say a bar. All the interviews and timelines and it was never mentioned by JK2..

[San]

I agree with you Anna, thats the way I have always felt about it.

Well, Hi, Blah!

I am surprised you can see me as I am having one of those days when I seem to be invisible!

Even better that you agree.

I don't think there was any white car and if there was, it was just some tourist and they were paranoid about it because they knew they were up to no good.

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I agree with you about the white car Anna.

[robots]

"RENTED"

might have been from K2 and JORAN

SMOKESCREEN

only a GUEST - STUDENT would have a RENTAL

SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE

[2NJSons_Mom]

5/21 & 6/4 were Saturdays in 2005....that's a two week span...he could have been anywhere between VA & Costa Rica..

There is an 'in-flight' pic labeled 'Florida-USA' and it's dated May 21, 2005.  Might have been headed back to Costa Rica then??

Yes, saw that...was that the American Airlines pic?

[blah]

I just grabbed this screen shot.. you have all seen this before...



There were about 6 shots exactly just like this one in various positions as the car moved through the camera angle. There was no car behind them in the video.

I just said that.  

Ever feel like no one reads your posts?

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sorry, did you say something?



 

[robots]

honestly

The Dutch will come back after reviewing everything and they will be shaking their heads (if they are not already ) in DISGUST, HORRORS and
INCREDULOUS DISBELIEF about how the ARUBA LAW DISINFORCEMENT
handled this whole thing

first.......... they will get joran paulus and K2

second............ they will get some OFFICIALS from the ISLAND


its we call a DOUBLE PLAY