Lively Case Discussion #612 5/2 - 5/4/2007

[Anna]

Great..Thats all we need is another dutchie around BFN

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Hows some BFN changed? Used to be able to read there before?

I think you have to be registered to read now, Angie.  At least that is the message I am getting.  

Maybe someone else will try and see what they get.  Perhaps I have the security on my computer set too high or something on my end?

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 No idea Anna. I am PC challenged.. lol
 I never joined BFN. Was hard enough to keep up here.. lol I did read there  when I could. Kind of sux not being able to now.

*******  LOL

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Great..Thats all we need is another dutchie around BFN

 Gosh I need glasses.. LMAO
 Took me a few to realize that was a butt !    

[Anna]

Me multi-tasking:



I have good days and bad days when I wonder if the Dutch are really going to be effective.



I feel much better when I know what they are doing like digging at the Sloots.  When I don't hear then I become uneasy and wonder if they are doing anything.

What did Jossy mean the second part of their investigation?  I hope he doesn't mean they are moving on to the bribery charges aspect of it.

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[Observer]

Coincidence?

1st cell/computer activity: Joran

2:26 - 2:34 - Joran to Deepak cell

1st cell/computer activity: Val

2:34 - Val checks Hotmail

That is interesting. It is too bad that Sander lost his phone. Someone else was with them. There has to be another cell phone that was used.

Why couldn't it be sander's phone? Didn't he say it was stolen? The pimps want you to believe they dropped her off at the beach and were home when she made those calls..

 If it did turn out to be Sander's cell phone..Then someone else kidnapped her and was using his stolen phone.

[Anna]

But what are the odds that someone else would not only kidnap Natalee but steal Sander's phone?

 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Me multi-tasking:



I have good days and bad days when I wonder if the Dutch are really going to be effective.



I feel much better when I know what they are doing like digging at the Sloots.  When I don't hear then I become uneasy and wonder if they are doing anything.

What did Jossy mean the second part of their investigation?  I hope he doesn't mean they are moving on to the bribery charges aspect of it.

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  ANNA   ROFLMAO  at the iron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Second part of the investigation. Dunno what to think?

[Kat_Gram]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

[klaasend]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

[Tylergal]

RAMM is on chapter 3 on Jorans book.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=6885.msg222854;topicseen#new

- For some time a dutch boy Marco was part of the gang. For a while when both Joran and Marco where the only ones in the group who had girlfriends then hung out a lot, double dated and stuff. Marco did not go to school but was a very good tennis player, much better than Joran. Marco left the gang and their friendship ended slowly but surely. Marco works at the casino of the Holiday Inn, the Excelsior. Joran sometimes talked to him there.


Hummm Marco/Guido had a girlfriend.  Oh that's right his lawyer said he was gay and that is impossible.  Either Joran is covering for the fact that he is a switch hitter or Guido is in fact straight.

According to Guido's own statement that was presented in the court, he and Joran had more than a "platonic" relationship at one time.

I still can't log in at BFN.  I emailed for help but didn't get a reply.  Then I tried to re-register since it said my usernam didn't exist and it seemed to hang up on the last page where you click register.

Can't read there now without being logged in.

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Same with me and I even got that e-mail about coming back because of new developments or whatever it was.  I guess we might be on two lists:  one that knows we were members and another which does not want us to be members.  

[2NJSons_Mom]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

Hi, just logged back in....can this be related to the photographer/plane person Meneses?

[Anna]

And we still don't know who Andres Menenes might be or why he was called in seven times to give a statement and why we never heard his name before?

[Tylergal]

Klaas, did you get an e-mail from me?  Please look.  We have a member locked out of the cage and wanting in.  

[Anna]

Same with me and I even got that e-mail about coming back because of new developments or whatever it was.  I guess we might be on two lists:  one that knows we were members and another which does not want us to be members.  

That's what I couldn't understand either, Tyler.  I got the email but then it said there was no such username.

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[Observer]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

I waisted 2 hours researchin that site and all the aruban links with that site. I shoulda just called that 800# and asked what his connection was to Aruba

[Anna]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

Hi, just logged back in....can this be related to the photographer/plane person Meneses?

Well, it's a very popular game and has 27,000 registered so it could be but not knowing his username, we wouldn't be able to find him.

And would they call in a 15 yo all the way from Costa Rica seven times?  I sort of doubt they would.  I tend toward thinking it is somebody in Aruba.  But just another thing we just don't know, I guess.

I wonder if Joran mentions that name in his book and what other new names he has in it.

If any.

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[Anna]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

I waisted 2 hours researchin that site and all the aruban links with that site. I shoulda just called that 800# and asked what his connection was to Aruba

He might still be up, *******.  Bet he'd love to hear from you about now!

     

[Tylergal]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

I waisted 2 hours researchin that site and all the aruban links with that site. I shoulda just called that 800# and asked what his connection was to Aruba

I have to admit I spent about 2-3 hours there and contemplated joining.  

[Anna]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

Val has to be on the school bus at 6:30 and at 3 a.m. he is on the computer playing games?

Do those kids never sleep?

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[Observer]

I went and looked at the times of the computer records again and Val was on a place called forums_x-plane.org ?/@ 3:07  but I can't find the site now.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?act=idx

Hi, just logged back in....can this be related to the photographer/plane person Meneses?

Well, it's a very popular game and has 27,000 registered so it could be but not knowing his username, we wouldn't be able to find him.

And would they call in a 15 yo all the way from Costa Rica seven times?  I sort of doubt they would.  I tend toward thinking it is somebody in Aruba.  But just another thing we just don't know, I guess.

I wonder if Joran mentions that name in his book and what other new names he has in it.

If any.

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He says he is a teen at one site and over 21 at another. When I researched his name..He was media advisor  and it gave a 800#below his name. I dont think its that young kid but maybee a relative. Or maybee neither..Just someone else with same name and lives in Aruba.