Lively Case Discussion #612 5/2 - 5/4/2007

[Tylergal]

Just thinking out loud..

You girls remember when Dan Riehl told us deepak had a receipt from a ship registered out of florida? I was surprised to hear that paulus also left for florida shortly after NH dissapeared.. I never saw proof..Just heard it here on the blogs...Wonder why PVDS would go to florida?

I remember that.  It was an e-mail addy of a person who was involved in some kinky or illegal activity who was captain of that ship or something.  The persons' name was Steve.  Ta da.  I wondered at the time if it was Steve Croes but decided -- probably not.

[Observer]

Just thinking out loud..

You girls remember when Dan Riehl told us deepak had a receipt from a ship registered out of florida? I was surprised to hear that paulus also left for florida shortly after NH dissapeared.. I never saw proof..Just heard it here on the blogs...Wonder why PVDS would go to florida?

I remember that.  It was an e-mail addy of a person who was involved in some kinky or illegal activity who was captain of that ship or something.  The persons' name was Steve.  Ta da.  I wondered at the time if it was Steve Croes but decided -- probably not.

It is probably nothing. I am curious what Paulus was doing in florida though..If that is true..

[Tylergal]

*******, we have discussed that ad nauseum in the past, anywhere from getting his orders from some big people who are involved in some big illegal business to perhaps having to meet with someone whose order he did not fill, or how he screwed up a kidnapping that he was paid to do, and I often wondered about the bank deposit in the middle of the night and if that was from someone in Florida and if that someone in Florida employs him to provide videos of pornographic activity, if he was going there to get money for one reason or another.  He said he went there to cancel Joran's entrance into school, but the truth is, you either call and cancel or just not show up.  You do not have to do international travel to cancel your admission to a college, no way.

[Anna]

O/T 3 killed in storms in TX headed East so had to move the dogs, pups, all their toys for the man to mow the grass today and am beat!

I AM BACK IN AT BFN and think I will read of bit of Ramm's translations and then head for the Monkey Bunkey.  So quiet in here tonight, I am crashing!

Goodnight, all!  Hopefully tomorrow the Dutch will be digging up that POOL!  I know, in my dreams but who knows, it could happen.

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[klaasend]

Nite Anna

[Observer]

*******, we have discussed that ad nauseum in the past, anywhere from getting his orders from some big people who are involved in some big illegal business to perhaps having to meet with someone whose order he did not fill, or how he screwed up a kidnapping that he was paid to do, and I often wondered about the bank deposit in the middle of the night and if that was from someone in Florida and if that someone in Florida employs him to provide videos of pornographic activity, if he was going there to get money for one reason or another.  He said he went there to cancel Joran's entrance into school, but the truth is, you either call and cancel or just not show up.  You do not have to do international travel to cancel your admission to a college, no way.

Interesting..But a Bank Deposit in the middle of the night doesnt seem likely..But a withdrawl does..

I have a hard time beleaving Joran placed 4th in a Texas Hold em tourney and won $400 also..

[klaasend]

GOODNIGHT ALL!

[Tylergal]

Checking out, too.  time for Redeye.

[crazymom]

Just peeking in before I hit the bed.  I found out tonight that my mom reads where I post in different forums then calls me to say "You really need to go to bed earlier.  It is not healthy for you to stay up so late!"  LOL  Hopefully she won't look for my posts in the morning!

Klaas, the picture for the t-shirt looks wonderful!  Thank you so much!

Hope all monkeys are doing well this evening!

[crazymom]

Guess everyone went to bed!  I'll turn off the lights........shhhhh I'll see you guys tomorrow.  Hi Mom!!!

[sirensong]

I'm still awake!!  I was reading at BFN and learned some things I didn'tknow before, and I thought I had read EVERYTHING!!

Ramm has translated from Urine's book, and he admitted to copying the pics of Natalee and putting himself in them.  After lying about it to DeVries.  What shocked me most was to learn this:

Credit Granny Toad
     
"Waal y'know, Beth's attorney Helen Lejuez was Dompig's ex's divorce attorney ... you know, the Kalpoes' aunt. Michael's mother. Pitbull's sister ... I guess that may make Nadira's (I forget the surprise legal first name) maiden name Djoegan. "

I knew there was some connection between Pitbull and this case, assuming this is true?

Urine is a total psycho to write this book.  He really thinks he can convince everyone of anything.  The biggest question still stands, why is this walking around free?   This is all definately a coverup by some VIP's.

[blah]

Death by OD

******* writes: That would be very logical and I also thought that for quite a while. Just too many things dont add up that NH was unconscious and never woke up.

Dr Baden has described in excruciating detail -- on air -- the process of death caused by overdosing on a date-rape - or other - drug.  Especially given what he knew as a fairly healthy, and other wise fairly normal, 18 yr old female.

The death process from overdose takes takes hours, and can actually last a full day: 24 hours.  The domino effects of various body systems breaking down, and the cascading to an ultimate conclusion does NOT happen in 2-3 hours.  The unconscious state, while still alive, can go on for a long time.

If Natalee was dead by 3:30AM on 5/30/05 -- she was more than likely murdered resulting from a physical assault.

It is understandable, in retrospect today, given this explanation why Jannsen filed "premeditated murder" charges against Paulus van der Sloot.
Jannsen's filing brings forward the most monstrous of many possible outcomes:

That Paulus intentionally killed an unconscious and drugged Natalee, in order to dispose of her body, and to hide the ravages of the assault she suffered at the hands of his deviant son.
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This is exactly what happened.  Paulus killed Natalee to save his son.  They are not covering for 3 young punks they are covering for Paulus.

just one thing to add:
As ordered by Anita - Paulus killed Natalee to save his son.

[blah]

Hows some BFN changed? Used to be able to read there before?

I think you have to be registered to read now, Angie.  At least that is the message I am getting.  

Maybe someone else will try and see what they get.  Perhaps I have the security on my computer set too high or something on my end?

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give me a link to this place and i'll give it a try.

I'm non-Dutch so I probably have a better chance of getting in...

 

[blah]

Me multi-tasking:



I have good days and bad days when I wonder if the Dutch are really going to be effective.



I feel much better when I know what they are doing like digging at the Sloots.  When I don't hear then I become uneasy and wonder if they are doing anything.

What did Jossy mean the second part of their investigation?  I hope he doesn't mean they are moving on to the bribery charges aspect of it.

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second part = destroying any evidence they may have found.  They have to tidy everything up before they close the case and let the FBI have the files.

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[Easywriter]

Hello All!

Hmmmmm…….. Let’s see……… Where did we leave off……  Natalee missing, botched investigation and the perpetrators still walking the streets?  Does that sound about right?

[Mere]

Good morning blah, Leslie and Easy...!

[BTgirl]

Hi Mere. I'm glad you had a good time and got back safely. Are ya gonna post some pics for us in the lounge?  

Hey Easy. My sock monkey is waving to your sock monkey.  

[Mere]

Hi Mere. I'm glad you had a good time and got back safely. Are ya gonna post some pics for us in the lounge?  

Hey Easy. My sock monkey is waving to your sock monkey.  

Hi BT...will do so as soon as I can get my regular computer line working...a great trip...

Amigoe has short article on how mis-management in Aruba is affecting
the poor and heading toward the middle class....and another article on
the big construction of new hotels, casinos, shops, etc.  Have we heard anything on the number of visitors in the past couple of months?  Who will occupy these new hotels, I wonder...?

[blah]

Hello All!

Hmmmmm…….. Let’s see……… Where did we leave off……  Natalee missing, botched investigation and the perpetrators still walking the streets?  Does that sound about right?

+ perps making profit