Lively Case Discussion #613 5/4 - 5/5/2007

[Tylergal]

OT, sorrry.  Nancy Grace is talking about Paris Hilton and flashing pics. of little kids who were killed by drunk drivers....  Make Paris watch that!

People may not like NG's MO or her voice, but one thing for sure -- she is  on the right side of the law.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

What would it take to solve this blasted case?

 I got sidetracked.,,
  Someone with a conscience for starters... IF anyone has one?
 Or a set of Gonads  to their ankles.
  This case  was friggin solved 2 years ago.  

[oldfart]

OT, sorrry.  Nancy Grace is talking about Paris Hilton and flashing pics. of little kids who were killed by drunk drivers....  Make Paris watch that!

Make Paris   scoop/mop up the "drunk tank" in the morings  

[Easywriter]

Dateline has an interesting show tonight.  If anything happens on the cable shows, I hope someone will send out an alert.

What is it about ?

Beauty queen marries money, has one lover kill another lover to keep the first lover from messing up her deal with her rich hubby.

[sharon]

My only question would be, if this wasn't an actuall mistake, and Natalee was confirmed dead only for it to later be retracted in error (and I use the term loosely ) then why approximately a year later did the FBI place Natalee on their Missing Persons list?

By the way has everyone noticed that Amy Bradley is no longer on the FBI missing persons list. Sorry, OT but thought it was interesting.

Thanks for posting that.

[oldfart]

Dateline has an interesting show tonight.  If anything happens on the cable shows, I hope someone will send out an alert.

What is it about ?

Beauty queen marries money, has one lover kill another lover to keep the first lover from messing up her deal with her rich hubby.

    You sure you are not watching "As the World Turns" or something like that.

[bleachedblack]

O/T

Monkeys, I posted this in the prayer thread, but I thought some might not see it there. As many of you know, we have been saying prayers in the prayer thread for a Special Monkey who was ill. I now have permission to tell you that the Special Monkey is TerryD, who has been battling throat cancer. Terry had a very good report from his doctor today, who feels that the cancer has been eradicated. Thanks for all your prayers and good wishes for him.  

Sorry to hear about your tough fight TerryD , but very glad you have come out the winner.  My prayers are with you.

[bleachedblack]

My only question would be, if this wasn't an actuall mistake, and Natalee was confirmed dead only for it to later be retracted in error (and I use the term loosely ) then why approximately a year later did the FBI place Natalee on their Missing Persons list?

By the way has everyone noticed that Amy Bradley is no longer on the FBI missing persons list. Sorry, OT but thought it was interesting.

Thanks for posting that.

You're welcome, OT but worthy of speculation IMO.

[klaasend]

   

[sharon]

The whole shoe story is utterly ridiculously. And he basically calls Dompig a liar (we call him a liar for other reasons) because Dompig said himself the were looking for a sneaker to match one they had found. That's what got the Marriott pond drained.

Dompig had one shoe, so where is the other one? there never were two missing.

Hi Rob!

I've always thought the same thing

I thought we heard about the 'one in the closet with blood on it' and then into morphed into the pair?

But I have not personally ever compared dates that the different statements came out

It just felt like the 'one' story was first.

(sorry for the interruption, I read when I can these days, Rarely current)

[Frijole]

   

That's great.... wish he looked more afraid though.... maybe another one of San with her sword slashing while Paulus runs away?  

[BTgirl]

   

     

[oldfart]

   

   

Do you have a small Rat type Joran laying around anywhere ??

[BTgirl]

The whole shoe story is utterly ridiculously. And he basically calls Dompig a liar (we call him a liar for other reasons) because Dompig said himself the were looking for a sneaker to match one they had found. That's what got the Marriott pond drained.

Dompig had one shoe, so where is the other one? there never were two missing.

Hi Rob!

I've always thought the same thing

I thought we heard about the 'one in the closet with blood on it' and then into morphed into the pair?

But I have not personally ever compared dates that the different statements came out

It just felt like the 'one' story was first.

(sorry for the interruption, I read when I can these days, Rarely current)

You aren't interrupting. Your thoughts on this are interesting.

[San]

   

   

[Bobo2]

Good evening everybody,

The recent talk about the wikipedia misinformation about Natalee led me to do some browsing.  Did you know that Julia Renfro is listed in wikipedia, but not John Q Kelly?  Who on earth would think JR is important enough to be included, except JR herself? Rather bizarre entries about her, but also the inference that the gardener witness was her employee.  I always thought the gardener was somehow connected to Jossy?  

Anyway I got quite a laugh that she would even be in there - I certainly won't be looking to wikipedia for any reliable info in the future.

[Easywriter]

My earlier question came from a deep feeling of frustration about everything that has gone on thus far.  It is obvious to most people that have followed the case what happened that night and who was involved, but what would it take at this point in time to bring charges?

Does circumstantial evidence carry no weight in their system?  Was Paulus Van Der Sloot absolutely correct in his first assessment?  Do we all need to give our in-laws one way tickets to Aruba?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

[quote="Easywriter   In some of the pictures from the search I see a guy with a hammer drill used for drilling holes into concrete.  Perhaps their sonar equipment gave indications of voids under the concrete and they made drill holes so they could extract soils for testing.  Just a guess, but that was definitely a hammer drill with a carbide tip.[/quote]


True Easy,, here is the thing though.. My hubby is a contractor... and beleive it or not. I know a bit about tools. LOL
   Hubby uses a hammer drill all the time to drill concerete.  They will have to drill and literally  bust out the concerte itself in order to get soil samples.. you need to get in there and get a handful of soil. Drilling just a hole .. isnt gonna do anything.    Concrete needs busted up totally.. unless there is soe kind of probe to gi onto the whole and bring up a sample of the soil..

[Tamikosmom]

What would it take to solve this blasted case?

I was just thinking about this.... (and welcome back Easy)

Pretend that you are the on the Dutch team brought in to clean up this mess.  Assume that you are on the up and up and don't plan on covering anything up.....

With that..... I would be pissed as hell.  They sit down and read through 400 lbs. of pure Aruban BullSxxx and by now know more than we do which means they are totally aware of how bungled the case was.

I would think they would be hell bent on solving this thing just to show the Aruban ALE how a proper investigation is to be done.

So, that's what it takes to solve this thing.. an honest, dedicated and pissed off team on a mission.  It can be solved.  Mistakes were made.  They just have to get enough to throw the little shits in jail and the papa too.  I believe it will happen.

Frijole ... the following is my suspicion regarding the outcome of the Natalee Holloway case.


I contend that it is too late for Aruba/Holland to turn back the clock. The fallout is too huge to comprehend … Paulus Van der Sloot … the sons of the elite … those at all levels of the Dutch/Aruban administrations who participated in the coverup as well as … the exposure of all of Aruba’s dirty little secrets encompassing drugs … gambling … prostitution … pornography …money laundering …

I suspect that Natalee Holloway’s remains will be returned to her loving family … her country.  It will be an appeasement attempt to make Natalee's family back off.  Joran … maybe Deepak … will be held accountable … accountable for disposing of Natalee after she “apparently” died of a drug overdose. The consequences ... a slap on the wrist.

Did Shango's "theory" not imply that the Joran (Lamb) would be the sacrifice while Paulus (Elder) and the "powers that be" (Dirty Hands) would be spared?

Janet

 
AMIGOE - April 28, 2007
ORANJESTAD – … A highly placed government official told Amigoe last week that the team expects to find Holloway’s remains soon in Aruba …


Jug Twitty
NANCY GRACE - August 29, 2005

TWITTY: … it`s a terrible mistake, it`s an accident, he`s still underage, he`s a minor, even if they killed Natalee he probably would have gotten off with about five years.
 

Jug Twitty
‘Scarborough Country’ - July 14, 2005

TWITTY: … Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she’s alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we’ll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

[mrs. red]

It's so OBVIOUS, why didn't we see this before, lol    

Tee hee.... am at work but just had to say I love this one Klaas.

OMG I took FOREVER to get it.....