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Question: Is Casey Anthony guilty or not guilty of,  First-degree murder, Aggravated child abuse, Aggravated manslaughter of a child, 4 counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer  (Voting closed: July 05, 2011, 08:34:21 AM)
Guilty All - 196 (95.1%)
Not Guity All - 1 (0.5%)
Guilty Agrivated Manslaughter Only - 5 (2.4%)
Guilty of Providing False Information - 1 (0.5%)
I have no idea - 3 (1.5%)
Total Voters: 205

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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony - MURDER TRIAL - Deliberations and VERDICT - 7/4 - 7/5/2011  (Read 1306701 times)
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« Reply #1040 on: July 05, 2011, 12:03:31 AM »

Can someone help me understand something? If jurors can't agree and that would be a hung jury resulting in a mistrial, then how do you get an aquittal? Would that have to be unanimous?

Does a mistrial mean she can't be tried again?

TIA!

Acquittal would mean all 12 have to agree she is not guilty.  That is just not possible in my mind that all 12 believe she is not guilty. 

Nor mine, Zoo. That's not going to happen. I was just trying to figure out the meaning of the verbage. So, an aquittal has to be unanimous. A hung jury means an unresolvable split in the jury and she could be retried. That is not a mistrial. A mistrial means something was not appropriate in this trial, and she can also be retried in that instance............ is that right?
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« Reply #1041 on: July 05, 2011, 12:03:31 AM »

Granted I know way more than these jurors do, but I do not see how any of the jurros could watch her for 8 weeks and come away with a NG verdict. 

How the jurors would not think if this was an accident, why she didn't report it? Why would she sit in jail for 3 years if this was an accident.  They have to see that.  That would be my first question. 

Somebody please shoot me.

I hope baez didn't pay her if so shoot me too. America can't go through this again!
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« Reply #1042 on: July 05, 2011, 12:05:39 AM »

NG had a jury consultant on as well that had concerns about #5.  Said that juror did not look at Jeff once the first time he was up during closing. 

Probably the same consultant that told the reporters tweeting about it. They can only guess by experiance but they could be right too. Never know.

http://www.wftv.com/news/27970046/detail.html

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» White female in her 60s
» Retired, 11th grade education
» She had a DUI in 1998, and her son and grandson both had drug problems


I'm thinking she might be distrustful of police, with her DUI experience coupled with her son's and grandson's drug experience.

Plus no diploma so she could relate to Casey. DUI in 98 puts her in in her 50's back then, which is a far cry from somebody partying in college &  immature. In her 50's already having grown children & getting a DUI could make her have a grudge. She retired as a Nurse's aid 5 or 6 years ago, so it might bother her that she wasn't able to become "more", therefore relating to Casey on another level.

Omg I can't even think about it!
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« Reply #1043 on: July 05, 2011, 12:06:31 AM »

Thanks everybody for helping me get the legal terms straight!! 
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« Reply #1044 on: July 05, 2011, 12:06:33 AM »

Dr. Glass has a new article up.  I know a lot of people do not like her, but she has some good input ...warning there are spelling errors etc...just like I do (because of illness), it is the content that is important.

I have worried about ICA going "off'' when the verdict is read and not what she wanted to hear.  I have seen this happen.  Those sitting closest to her are going to be the first targets. 

What does everyone think? 

I think Cindy might go off, but I'm sure the deputies will be ready for any reaction from KC.

When she is found guilty, do they then put her in handcuffs and walk her away? I want to see that!
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« Reply #1045 on: July 05, 2011, 12:06:44 AM »

It is 11:57 pm and I can hardly keep my eyes open but I wanted to see if a verdict had been reached.  I am so disappointed.  Disappointed because I know this means the jurors do not see this as cut and dried as we do.

I spent the last seven hours with my children at the local fireworks.  Two of my three adult children and the six year old.   Patriotic songs and music blared as the fireworks went off...I have so many blessings, we all do really.  It is just too sad that KC and even Cindy, did not fully realize what blessings we have.    I add Cindy because she still went against all that was good and holy during this trial.
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Sorry Caylee, the jury took your day away.


« Reply #1046 on: July 05, 2011, 12:09:46 AM »

Can someone help me understand something? If jurors can't agree and that would be a hung jury resulting in a mistrial, then how do you get an aquittal? Would that have to be unanimous?

Does a mistrial mean she can't be tried again?

TIA!

Acquittal would mean all 12 have to agree she is not guilty.  That is just not possible in my mind that all 12 believe she is not guilty. 

Nor mine, Zoo. That's not going to happen. I was just trying to figure out the meaning of the verbage. So, an aquittal has to be unanimous. A hung jury means an unresolvable split in the jury and she could be retried. That is not a mistrial. A mistrial means something was not appropriate in this trial, and she can also be retried in that instance............ is that right?

As far as i know, yes hung jury means they could not reach a unanimous verdict.

Misstrial is when bobo tries to get a new trial cause he does not like how this one is going, so he can start all over again.

Neither would cause her to walk out the door tomorrow, IMO.  I would assume if a hung jury, bobo would ask for bond, which I believe would be denied. 
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« Reply #1047 on: July 05, 2011, 12:11:36 AM »

Dr. Glass has a new article up.  I know a lot of people do not like her, but she has some good input ...warning there are spelling errors etc...just like I do (because of illness), it is the content that is important.

I have worried about ICA going "off'' when the verdict is read and not what she wanted to hear.  I have seen this happen.  Those sitting closest to her are going to be the first targets. 

What does everyone think? 

I think Cindy might go off, but I'm sure the deputies will be ready for any reaction from KC.

When she is found guilty, do they then put her in handcuffs and walk her away? I want to see that!

Me too, AZ!!  I even wish the killer cam could stay with her in her cell!! I'd like to see her when the lawyers are gone and she's alone with her sentence, after court.
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« Reply #1048 on: July 05, 2011, 12:12:27 AM »

Good evening, monkeys.

I wasn't able to be in the cage all day today, but did get to see "parts" of Linda's closing and saw more parts on late night shows.

I just have to say:  Jeff and Linda did a wonderful job for Caylee - now it's up to the jurors to give Caylee the justice she deserves - and if Caylee doesn't get justice, it won't be because Jeff and Linda didn't do their job.

Everyone is saying the same:  Both Jeff and Linda have been execellent in their pleas for justice.



Awww your avi is so cute Puzzler! Happy 4th!

The Prosecution was awesome! Personally I think Casey should get 1st degree delong murder. Not sure what the jury will come back with. After Jeff & Linda spoke, I thought we'd have a verdict by the end of the day.
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« Reply #1049 on: July 05, 2011, 12:14:09 AM »

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« Reply #1050 on: July 05, 2011, 12:14:09 AM »

Can someone help me understand something? If jurors can't agree and that would be a hung jury resulting in a mistrial, then how do you get an aquittal? Would that have to be unanimous?

Does a mistrial mean she can't be tried again?

TIA!

Acquittal would mean all 12 have to agree she is not guilty.  That is just not possible in my mind that all 12 believe she is not guilty. 

Nor mine, Zoo. That's not going to happen. I was just trying to figure out the meaning of the verbage. So, an aquittal has to be unanimous. A hung jury means an unresolvable split in the jury and she could be retried. That is not a mistrial. A mistrial means something was not appropriate in this trial, and she can also be retried in that instance............ is that right?

As far as i know, yes hung jury means they could not reach a unanimous verdict.

Misstrial is when bobo tries to get a new trial cause he does not like how this one is going, so he can start all over again.

Neither would cause her to walk out the door tomorrow, IMO.  I would assume if a hung jury, bobo would ask for bond, which I believe would be denied. 
a bond?? Can it be possible? no please!
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« Reply #1051 on: July 05, 2011, 12:14:55 AM »

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No clue, I don't see it.“@MissG_65: @bobkealing why do people think #5 will cause a hung jury?”

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« Reply #1052 on: July 05, 2011, 12:15:06 AM »

Dr. Glass has a new article up.  I know a lot of people do not like her, but she has some good input ...warning there are spelling errors etc...just like I do (because of illness), it is the content that is important.

I have worried about ICA going "off'' when the verdict is read and not what she wanted to hear.  I have seen this happen.  Those sitting closest to her are going to be the first targets. 

What does everyone think? 

I think Cindy might go off, but I'm sure the deputies will be ready for any reaction from KC.

When she is found guilty, do they then put her in handcuffs and walk her away? I want to see that!

Me too, AZ!!  I even wish the killer cam could stay with her in her cell!! I'd like to see her when the lawyers are gone and she's alone with her sentence, after court.

CBB, you voyeur! Lol!
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« Reply #1053 on: July 05, 2011, 12:16:22 AM »

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I'll have to get the coffee mug! Love it..
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« Reply #1054 on: July 05, 2011, 12:16:41 AM »

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Woman says she saw an angel in her picture of Caylee - story up next ( I am not makling this up either)

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« Reply #1055 on: July 05, 2011, 12:17:14 AM »

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No clue, I don't see it.“@MissG_65: @bobkealing why do people think #5 will cause a hung jury?”

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing

There will not be a hung jury, not with everything the Prosecution linked to Casey.
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« Reply #1056 on: July 05, 2011, 12:18:04 AM »

Dr. Glass has a new article up.  I know a lot of people do not like her, but she has some good input ...warning there are spelling errors etc...just like I do (because of illness), it is the content that is important.

I have worried about ICA going "off'' when the verdict is read and not what she wanted to hear.  I have seen this happen.  Those sitting closest to her are going to be the first targets. 

What does everyone think? 

I think Cindy might go off, but I'm sure the deputies will be ready for any reaction from KC.

When she is found guilty, do they then put her in handcuffs and walk her away? I want to see that!

Me too, AZ!!  I even wish the killer cam could stay with her in her cell!! I'd like to see her when the lawyers are gone and she's alone with her sentence, after court.

CBB, you voyeur! Lol!
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At least we will see real tears.....
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« Reply #1057 on: July 05, 2011, 12:18:06 AM »

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No clue, I don't see it.“@MissG_65: @bobkealing why do people think #5 will cause a hung jury?”

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing
Thank u northern I'm glad to see he said this.
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« Reply #1058 on: July 05, 2011, 12:18:32 AM »

Dr. Glass has a new article up.  I know a lot of people do not like her, but she has some good input ...warning there are spelling errors etc...just like I do (because of illness), it is the content that is important.

I have worried about ICA going "off'' when the verdict is read and not what she wanted to hear.  I have seen this happen.  Those sitting closest to her are going to be the first targets. 

What does everyone think? 

I think Cindy might go off, but I'm sure the deputies will be ready for any reaction from KC.

When she is found guilty, do they then put her in handcuffs and walk her away? I want to see that!

Me too, AZ!!  I even wish the killer cam could stay with her in her cell!! I'd like to see her when the lawyers are gone and she's alone with her sentence, after court.

I would be happy with a Hopespring cam tonight.  Especially since Lenny was around there signing autographs earlier.  Neighbours better hide their hoses.
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« Reply #1059 on: July 05, 2011, 12:20:28 AM »

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No clue, I don't see it.“@MissG_65: @bobkealing why do people think #5 will cause a hung jury?”

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing
Thank u northern I'm glad to see he said this.

It is too early IMO to say anyone will be a problem.  They had to choose a foreperson, go through 17 pages of charges, go through all the forms, wait for the evidence to be brought in, so much to do in such little time tonight.  Tomorrow will be game on.
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