Caylee Marie Anthony - MURDER TRIAL - Deliberations and VERDICT - 7/4 - 7/5/2011

[seemeatthebeach]

Good Morning Monkekys!

Why, why doesn't SOMEONE tell LKB that cause of death DOES NOT need to be proved by the State?  I'm so sick of her saying that and I must say, this morning on the Today show, she looks like carp!!  (both the pile and the fish)

Continued prayers for the jurors to use their common senses and the facts of the trial to bring Caylee Marie the justice she deserves.

DITTO!!

[pharlap]

Granted I know way more than these jurors do, but I do not see how any of the jurros could watch her for 8 weeks and come away with a NG verdict. 

How the jurors would not think if this was an accident, why she didn't report it? Why would she sit in jail for 3 years if this was an accident.  They have to see that.  That would be my first question. 

Somebody please shoot me.

Trust me I know she is 100% Guilty but we know way more the they do .She didn't call 911 because Caylee never woke up. Their would have been drugs in her system.

I'm just trying to prepare myself for when the jury come back a lesser charge so I don't need meds myself..

 

We all know kc DIDN'T want Caylee looked at within the 1st 31 days period.
Your so right Blonde.
Caylee also could of been strangled.
However kc killed her, would of come out if called the police or found early on.
That's WHY kc never called............................

[ZooMomology]

What the heck is this.  His panties in a wad?  Feel good? 

[cubbeegirl]

Granted I know way more than these jurors do, but I do not see how any of the jurros could watch her for 8 weeks and come away with a NG verdict. 

How the jurors would not think if this was an accident, why she didn't report it? Why would she sit in jail for 3 years if this was an accident.  They have to see that.  That would be my first question. 

Somebody please shoot me.

Trust me I know she is 100% Guilty but we know way more the they do .She didn't call 911 because Caylee never woke up. Their would have been drugs in her system.

I'm just trying to prepare myself for when the jury come back a lesser charge so I don't need meds myself..

 

We all know kc DIDN'T want Caylee looked at within the 1st 31 days period.
Your so right Blonde.
Caylee also could of been strangled.
However kc killed her, would of come out if called the police or found early on.
That's WHY kc never called............................

I totally agree with you both..

[cherjers]

good morning monkey's u think they might not go with murder one because that means they have to stay for penalty phase--isnt there a juror that has to go on a cruise in July's hope this does not factor into their thinking

My understanding from watching JVM's show last night was that this juror could tell the judge that s/he needs to be excused, and then JP would just put an alternate in.. but I wasn't clear on whether or not they'd have to start deliberations over.. or merely catch the person up.  But I would hope they wouldn't pick murder 1 just for that reason.. even if it does mean cutting in to personal vacation time. 

I would hope so--but there could be a KC on that jury--all about me

[cherjers]

good morning monkey's u think they might not go with murder one because that means they have to stay for penalty phase--isnt there a juror that has to go on a cruise in July's hope this does not factor into their thinking

I dont think it will be they can come in with guilty, hear from family why KC should be spared then right back in and out in an hour on that the 1 juror can meet family at cruise site and be on their way, I'm sure JP will make it happen even if it runs past the 7th, they can fly the person out to the cruise ship. I believe

   think Bozo gets to plea for her life-if that is the case KC could die of old age--bozo wont give up his tv time

[cherjers]

good morning monkey's u think they might not go with murder one because that means they have to stay for penalty phase--isnt there a juror that has to go on a cruise in July's hope this does not factor into their thinking

My understanding from watching JVM's show last night was that this juror could tell the judge that s/he needs to be excused, and then JP would just put an alternate in.. but I wasn't clear on whether or not they'd have to start deliberations over.. or merely catch the person up.  But I would hope they wouldn't pick murder 1 just for that reason.. even if it does mean cutting in to personal vacation time. 

Anothermonkey, the way I understand it, in that event they would have to start deliberations over...might be wrong, but that is what I understood them to be saying..

thats what I understood

[pharlap]

I keep reading this, but an accidental drug overdose is 1st degree murder.  I don't know why this would be okay and not punishable.  If perhaps, Benadryl was given too much, maybe they would get manslaughter, and if shown that Benadryl was given in quantities to keep a child out all night so you can go party, and giving chloroform so you can go out and party is 1st degree murder.

So, I can go give my children too much chloroform and go out and party at which time my child dies and I then put duct tape on her face to keep fluids from seeping out and then throw her in a swamp, I could get off for murder?  Wow, I really hope no juror thinks this because it is disgusting. 

An accidental drug overdose during the commission of child abuse (giving a child chloroform is child abuse) is 1st degree murder. 

Accidental drug overdose ..
For one thing Caylee wasn't sick, you don't give a small child anything.

I hope after this is all over, their would be a law made.
ANYONE giving a child any type of drugs, either over the counter or home made chloroform will get a jail sentence IF the child is not sick. 

 

[can]

Another thing, as some of you know, I have bred, shown and posted photos of my Yorkies for years.  I have been around dozens over the years.  One thing they NEVER were was "sleepy"!  I will not go so far as to say there is no such thing as a sleepy Yorkie but will say it must be extremely rare.

Also I don't think for one minute that the photo of Caylee opening that door was what it was portrayed to be.  It's another Yorkie thing to leave the door open just a little like that so they can come back in after going outside.  Totally familiar to me in that regard as I think it would be to others with toy breed dogs.

My vet of 30 years also has told me to given they Benadryl to make them more subdued in times of stress.  One occasion I recall is when getting a new roof with 4 or 5 of them.  They didn't understand and were going nuts.  Maybe this is where Casey got the idea to drug her child.  And the dogs till were not sleepy, just less hysterical.

I am not saying Yorkies are hyper, just high energy much like Jack Russels and Border Collies and other high energy breeds.

I despise people who think human beings can be "sedated" at will like predators who use date rape drugs and parents who drug their child.  If it were that simple, anestheseologists would not have to have about 12 years training to do it safely.  I think this happens far more than is recognized.

My rant for the morning.

Sensible rant Anna and I FULLY agree.

[anothermonkey]

I was watching a show on that pervert who should be shot that took Ben Ownby and Sean Hornbeck got like 3000 years in prison.  Granted, his crimes are disgusting and he deserves it, but his victims did not die, and he is spending 3000 years in prison.  Yes, he has many more charges and 2 victims, but IN MY MIND, if he can get 3000 years in prison, so can she. 

The world we live in sucks.  Our justice system sucks and I am seriously having a very hard time with this. 

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Sorry to snip your post, but wanted to focus on this part.  I'm not sure how many years most kidnappers/child rapists get in prison...  this sure as heck doesn't sound typical. Not that he deserves to ever get out of prison, but wow, I had no idea. 3000 years?! 

[cherjers]

Agree you never know what a jury will do especially since Judge Perry refused to let the Prosecution strike that one Juror who said she can't judge people.  But whatever they do, I still can't see they letting Casey waltz out the front door.  They will give her something even if it is far less than she deserves.

Note the Defense shills are saying anything less than DP is a victory.

I think JP did a great job really like him--but on jury selection was not happy with him

[pharlap]

My last post didn't come out right.
Was trying to say, IF a child is not sick.
Whoever gives med's, chloroform should get a jail sentence even if it's not an over dose.
 

[Jazzy]

I was watching a show on that pervert who should be shot that took Ben Ownby and Sean Hornbeck got like 3000 years in prison.  Granted, his crimes are disgusting and he deserves it, but his victims did not die, and he is spending 3000 years in prison.  Yes, he has many more charges and 2 victims, but IN MY MIND, if he can get 3000 years in prison, so can she. 

The world we live in sucks.  Our justice system sucks and I am seriously having a very hard time with this. 

Hubby came home this morning and I looked at him and started crying.  He goes what's the matter.  I just cannot take this.  Told him waiting for jury to come in and reading all the crap online about which jurors look like they are going with the defense, which charges she might be found guilty of, if she may walk, I seriously need this to end. 

Why are victims allowed to be treated this way?  I doubt she will walk, but if a hung jury, will the state want to spend the money to try her all over again?  Will bozo be her lawyer?  I could not stand another 3 years, especially if she gets bond while they retry her. 

Zoo please trust in God and the juror no one not even media knows what is going on in each of these jurors heads , Just hang in there we will see Justice done for Caylee.

[ZooMomology]

I was watching a show on that pervert who should be shot that took Ben Ownby and Sean Hornbeck got like 3000 years in prison.  Granted, his crimes are disgusting and he deserves it, but his victims did not die, and he is spending 3000 years in prison.  Yes, he has many more charges and 2 victims, but IN MY MIND, if he can get 3000 years in prison, so can she. 

The world we live in sucks.  Our justice system sucks and I am seriously having a very hard time with this. 

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Sorry to snip your post, but wanted to focus on this part.  I'm not sure how many years most kidnappers/child rapists get in prison...  this sure as heck doesn't sound typical. Not that he deserves to ever get out of prison, but wow, I had no idea. 3000 years?! 

I am not sure on the actual nubmer of years, but this man will never get out of prison, from what the show said.  3000 was my term. 

[seemeatthebeach]

good morning monkey's u think they might not go with murder one because that means they have to stay for penalty phase--isnt there a juror that has to go on a cruise in July's hope this does not factor into their thinking

I dont think it will be they can come in with guilty, hear from family why KC should be spared then right back in and out in an hour on that the 1 juror can meet family at cruise site and be on their way, I'm sure JP will make it happen even if it runs past the 7th, they can fly the person out to the cruise ship. I believe

   think Bozo gets to plea for her life-if that is the case KC could die of old age--bozo wont give up his tv time

One of the alternates will come in (substitute the juror who must leave) just for the penalty phase if KC is found guilty of 1st degree  murder.
 

[cherjers]

Good Morning Monkekys!

Why, why doesn't SOMEONE tell LKB that cause of death DOES NOT need to be proved by the State?  I'm so sick of her saying that and I must say, this morning on the Today show, she looks like carp!!  (both the pile and the fish)

Continued prayers for the jurors to use their common senses and the facts of the trial to bring Caylee Marie the justice she deserves.

because she and her husband are in the defense team pocket how much you want to bet she comes out with a book

  Then that is one more book I can add to my list of books not to read-the only books I will read are Linda and jeff-if they write one

[cubbeegirl]

Agree you never know what a jury will do especially since Judge Perry refused to let the Prosecution strike that one Juror who said she can't judge people.  But whatever they do, I still can't see they letting Casey waltz out the front door.  They will give her something even if it is far less than she deserves.

Note the Defense shills are saying anything less than DP is a victory.

I think JP did a great job really like him--but on jury selection was not happy with him

I adore JP...however, I did feel he was hell bent on seating that jury and allowed some people to sit on it that I had serious reservations about. In the end I just had to tell myself that JP has alot more experience than I do and hope to God the ones I had reservations about will come through...

[ZooMomology]

Penalty 74 life sentences[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Devlin

He was found guilty in lke 3 states so is serving 3 life sentences in MO right now. 

[cherjers]

Baez is thinking:   

"Sorry, but you're really *edit language*.
And I'm sorry I couldn't do anything for you.
As a matter of fact, there was never anything I really could do for you.
You're as guilty as the day is long.  Your lies, make not a good song.
But you understand, that I tried...and I lied...
...because, I just wanted to make a name for myself."

p.s.  "See you in hell"

Why the heck does she have to snuggle into him like that.  Looks too cozy to me!  Yuk!

  KC thinks Bozo loves her

[ZooMomology]

I was watching a show on that pervert who should be shot that took Ben Ownby and Sean Hornbeck got like 3000 years in prison.  Granted, his crimes are disgusting and he deserves it, but his victims did not die, and he is spending 3000 years in prison.  Yes, he has many more charges and 2 victims, but IN MY MIND, if he can get 3000 years in prison, so can she. 

The world we live in sucks.  Our justice system sucks and I am seriously having a very hard time with this. 

Hubby came home this morning and I looked at him and started crying.  He goes what's the matter.  I just cannot take this.  Told him waiting for jury to come in and reading all the crap online about which jurors look like they are going with the defense, which charges she might be found guilty of, if she may walk, I seriously need this to end. 

Why are victims allowed to be treated this way?  I doubt she will walk, but if a hung jury, will the state want to spend the money to try her all over again?  Will bozo be her lawyer?  I could not stand another 3 years, especially if she gets bond while they retry her. 

Zoo please trust in God and the juror no one not even media knows what is going on in each of these jurors heads , Just hang in there we will see Justice done for Caylee.

Thanks Jazzy.  I sure hope so.