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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #614 5/5 - 5/6/2007  (Read 137927 times)
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« Reply #280 on: May 06, 2007, 05:09:14 PM »

Ok..Yeh I remember that..lol

Well we have him in the video going into the casino and he is wearing tennis shoes.. I remember that Dompig statement the same as you..Wish I knew what show he said that on..
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« Reply #281 on: May 06, 2007, 05:11:34 PM »

To be honest..No picture I have ever seen of Joran's feet ever jump out at me for being size 14. My brother wears that size and they are boats compared to my size 12
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« Reply #282 on: May 06, 2007, 05:12:33 PM »

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To be honest..No picture I have ever seen of Joran's feet ever jump out at me for being size 14. My brother wears that size and they are boats compared to my size 12

Good point and I know what you mean.  Logically speaking though, he really should wear a size 14.
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« Reply #283 on: May 06, 2007, 05:13:21 PM »

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So Jossy had his facts wrong? He thought that was the same night didn't he?

Yes, he did until we sent him and NG a million emails, lol

The confusion is we think Joran was wearing that same shirt when he went to CnC the night Natalee went missing.


I believe what Klass is saying is exactly what I recall and if memory serves, these pictures were made during spring break on Aruba, another time when the sporter was seeking out girls in his plaid shirt.  I think that shirt had a reason behind it.  Could it be so that he was easily recognizable with the PIMPS, that they knew him by his shirt, or did he just go nasty for days on end?

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Wow!! Look at those cute lil feet Smile Freddy wearing Joran's shoe's could fit in that scenario..I don't see anyone else that would have that big of feet. The Kottenboes dont look that big of people. I dont think either of them looks to much over 6'1.

I am still confused why we were looking for one shoe size 14 in the beginning. Now we are looking for 2 shoes:( We cant have one clear fact in this case can we? They must laugh there ass off at the spin and bs they throw into this case.

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All my brothers are more than 6-2 and they all wear 13-1/2 upwards.  Their shoes have to be special ordered.  Neither is exceptionally large, just tall.  In fact, two of them are downright skinny.
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« Reply #284 on: May 06, 2007, 05:13:34 PM »

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This photo of Joran was taken durring spring break 2005 which was prior to Natalee arriving in Aruba:




Yes I remember that photo.  They are his dirty sneakers. He must wear those for his kidnapping night because he eventually drags his victim and leaves them on the beach so he doesn't want to get his good ones dirty.

Sort of like when you mow the lawn you have a special pair of sneakers because you don't want your good ones turning green.
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« Reply #285 on: May 06, 2007, 05:14:23 PM »

These shoes look like Doc Marten's to my eye.  Something my kids were into back in the 1990s.
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« Reply #286 on: May 06, 2007, 05:15:45 PM »

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To be honest..No picture I have ever seen of Joran's feet ever jump out at me for being size 14. My brother wears that size and they are boats compared to my size 12

Good point and I know what you mean.  Logically speaking though, he really should wear a size 14.


Yep, on a person of Joran's height, a size 14 would not look large in proportion to the rest of him.
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« Reply #287 on: May 06, 2007, 05:15:45 PM »

http://www.zappos.com/n/es/d/722478804/page/1.html
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« Reply #288 on: May 06, 2007, 05:16:21 PM »

Hard to say from that pic..If you look at the girl next to him she looks quite tall. Probably has good size feet for a girl Wink
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« Reply #289 on: May 06, 2007, 05:16:56 PM »

Doc Marten's come in different colors of leather/suede and are easily stained, but they have a steel toe and if you were to kick someone with one of them, it could possibly kill them, cause "all that shit" to be found with them.
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« Reply #290 on: May 06, 2007, 05:18:42 PM »

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« Reply #291 on: May 06, 2007, 05:19:43 PM »

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I'd like to still frame Joran's entrance into the casino to see if we could get a look at the shoes he was wearing.

I've tried and it's hard to tell.  He's definately wearing tennis shoes that are white.  



I didn't get any farther with my trial either.  I agree that it is white tennis shoes...

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« Reply #292 on: May 06, 2007, 05:20:02 PM »

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Tylergal - I know what you mean.  I'm undecided whether they are dirty tennis shoes or doc martin type boots/shoes.
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« Reply #293 on: May 06, 2007, 05:20:03 PM »

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So Jossy had his facts wrong? He thought that was the same night didn't he?

Yes, he did until we sent him and NG a million emails, lol

The confusion is we think Joran was wearing that same shirt when he went to CnC the night Natalee went missing.


I believe what Klass is saying is exactly what I recall and if memory serves, these pictures were made during spring break on Aruba, another time when the sporter was seeking out girls in his plaid shirt.  I think that shirt had a reason behind it.  Could it be so that he was easily recognizable with the PIMPS, that they knew him by his shirt, or did he just go nasty for days on end?

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Wow!! Look at those cute lil feet Smile Freddy wearing Joran's shoe's could fit in that scenario..I don't see anyone else that would have that big of feet. The Kottenboes dont look that big of people. I dont think either of them looks to much over 6'1.

I am still confused why we were looking for one shoe size 14 in the beginning. Now we are looking for 2 shoes:( We cant have one clear fact in this case can we? They must laugh there ass off at the spin and bs they throw into this case.

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All my brothers are more than 6-2 and they all wear 13-1/2 upwards.  Their shoes have to be special ordered.  Neither is exceptionally large, just tall.  In fact, two of them are downright skinny.

Or did he wear that particular shirt on the night he was going to kidnap a tourist and if someone did in fact have a picture of him he could say that wasn't that night it was another night.

I believe he wears those clothes for a reason especially the dirty sneakers.
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« Reply #294 on: May 06, 2007, 05:20:40 PM »

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To be honest..No picture I have ever seen of Joran's feet ever jump out at me for being size 14. My brother wears that size and they are boats compared to my size 12

Good point and I know what you mean.  Logically speaking though, he really should wear a size 14.


Yep, on a person of Joran's height, a size 14 would not look large in proportion to the rest of him.


I agree with you..I would be absolutely be amazed if he wore a size 11 or under.Even the pic where he had his feet up by the laptop dont look that huge..14 is pretty huge even compared to my size 12. I see it every day on my brothers feet.
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« Reply #295 on: May 06, 2007, 05:21:21 PM »

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I'd like to still frame Joran's entrance into the casino to see if we could get a look at the shoes he was wearing.

I've tried and it's hard to tell.  He's definately wearing tennis shoes that are white.  



I didn't get any farther with my trial either.  I agree that it is white tennis shoes...



Thanks Sleuth - yes it's hard to get a good screen capture that is clear enough.  I took 6 new ones this morning and none were any better.
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« Reply #296 on: May 06, 2007, 05:22:02 PM »

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These shoes look like Doc Marten's to my eye.  Something my kids were into back in the 1990s.

At first I thought they were boots.  But now I just think they are dirty.
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« Reply #297 on: May 06, 2007, 05:22:44 PM »

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Now those look like size 13/14 or soo.. The kid next to him probably has size 10 or 11
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« Reply #298 on: May 06, 2007, 05:24:52 PM »

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« Reply #299 on: May 06, 2007, 05:24:56 PM »

The picture on the stage is interesting... the girl in flipflops next to him doesn't look like her feet are that much smaller than his. She can't be anything larger than a women's 10, so I am starting to come around to the idea of Joran having shoes smaller than 14.

Even in the award picture, the petite girl next to him does not appear to be dwarfed by him.
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