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« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2007, 11:10:32 PM »

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Nite Monkeys, early day tomorrow


nighty  night bb
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« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2007, 11:11:30 PM »

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Shallow. Self serving book. We read about most of this stuff already.
Also boring.
He wrote this book for therapy, oh, and to make $$$
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« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2007, 11:13:34 PM »

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Hi Everybody!!

He really thinks he's something special doesn't he?    What a freak!
He ain't nothing more than a kidnapping raping murderer. Nothing.  Yea bet  mommy and daddy are real proud of that.  Sick Freak.  Even considers himself a "public figure".  I hate them all.  Rolling Eyes


Howdy, Snoop. Ain't he a real charmer?  Rolling Eyes
I hope he doesn't think that he is a public figure in a "good way"...Howdy BT and Snoopy
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« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2007, 11:13:40 PM »

"American girls are the loosest / wildest of the lot"

No Fair! Glenda/Renfro obviously skews this result.

You can only count her once! Not how many times...
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« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2007, 11:16:06 PM »

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Night BB. Sweet dreams.
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« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2007, 11:16:39 PM »

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"American girls are the loosest / wildest of the lot"

No Fair! Glenda/Renfro obviously skews this result.

You can only count her once! Not how many times...
Renho even went as far already to say that when American girls go to Aruba, it is up to them to prove that they are not loose
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« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2007, 11:16:51 PM »

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Hi Everybody!!

He really thinks he's something special doesn't he?    What a freak!
He ain't nothing more than a kidnapping raping murderer. Nothing.  Yea bet  mommy and daddy are real proud of that.  Sick Freak.  Even considers himself a "public figure".  I hate them all.  Rolling Eyes


Howdy, Snoop. Ain't he a real charmer?  Rolling Eyes
I hope he doesn't think that he is a public figure in a "good way"...Howdy BT and Snoopy


Hi, Elaine. It's enough to make a person gag, isn't it?
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« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2007, 11:19:21 PM »

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Hi Everybody!!

He really thinks he's something special doesn't he?    What a freak!
He ain't nothing more than a kidnapping raping murderer. Nothing.  Yea bet  mommy and daddy are real proud of that.  Sick Freak.  Even considers himself a "public figure".  I hate them all.  Rolling Eyes


Howdy, Snoop. Ain't he a real charmer?  Rolling Eyes
I hope he doesn't think that he is a public figure in a "good way"...Howdy BT and Snoopy


Hi, Elaine. It's enough to make a person gag, isn't it?
It sure is, we will need klaas to get out the barf bags soon, the ones with his picture on it.
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« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2007, 11:20:46 PM »

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Hi Everybody!!

He really thinks he's something special doesn't he?    What a freak!
He ain't nothing more than a kidnapping raping murderer. Nothing.  Yea bet  mommy and daddy are real proud of that.  Sick Freak.  Even considers himself a "public figure".  I hate them all.  Rolling Eyes


Howdy, Snoop. Ain't he a real charmer?  Rolling Eyes
I hope he doesn't think that he is a public figure in a "good way"...Howdy BT and Snoopy


Hi, Elaine. It's enough to make a person gag, isn't it?
It sure is, we will need klaas to get out the barf bags soon, the ones with his picture on it.


I think we've used up a lot of those bags lately.  Laughing
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« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2007, 11:21:22 PM »

Pecking order in Aruba..

1. Dutch born in The Netherlands
2. Dutch born on Aruba
3. "Arubans" born on Aruba
4. Those born to "Aruban" parents elsewhere
.... then way, way, way down the list... to the point they DO NOT MATTER....
5. Tourists
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« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2007, 11:22:52 PM »

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Pecking order in Aruba..

1. Dutch born in The Netherlands
2. Dutch born on Aruba
3. "Arubans" born on Aruba
4. Those born to "Aruban" parents elsewhere
.... then way, way, way down the list... to the point they DO NOT MATTER....
5. Tourists
Great post!!
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« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2007, 11:31:19 PM »

Paulus read Joran's book, before Joran ever published it. Goes to show us, Paulus is not as intelligent as he would have us all believe. The book tells of his poor parenting skills, IMO
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« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2007, 11:37:01 PM »

This Motion was a request to compel to the Kalpos.  The list of documents, is their response.
There very well could be a statement from Val and phone records in Joran's documents (and not privy to Kalpos).
The 171 pages is not everything IMO.
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« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2007, 11:39:23 PM »

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Paulus read Joran's book, before Joran ever published it. Goes to show us, Paulus is not as intelligent as he would have us all believe. The book tells of his poor parenting skills, IMO


He had to tell us about the pimps..That was the lifestyle they lived everyday. He woulda had to stop at age 14 if he left that out. Makes me ill hearing about his conquests..No doubt the parents helped create a monster.Sounds like they hung out at Jorans most of the time as well..You know damn well they were there that night with Anita gone..
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« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2007, 11:42:27 PM »

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This Motion was a request to compel to the Kalpos.  The list of documents, is their response.
There very well could be a statement from Val and phone records in Joran's documents (and not privy to Kalpos).
The 171 pages is not everything IMO.

I'm not so sure about that.  I would bet that the Dr. Phil people were given access to the list of available documents.  Now there could be some statments that KJ didn't release to the suspects so nobody but the prosecutors office has them.  The list in the Motion to Compel is the list of documents that the Dr. Phil people requested and the Kalpoes do not want to produce.
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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2007, 11:42:45 PM »

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This Motion was a request to compel to the Kalpos.  The list of documents, is their response.
There very well could be a statement from Val and phone records in Joran's documents (and not privy to Kalpos).
The 171 pages is not everything IMO.
I agree and believe there is a lot more. IMO
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« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2007, 11:44:22 PM »

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The rest of Chapter 4 translated by Ramm at BFN and also copied in our Important Case Document forum:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1117

page 4 (and a bit part 5 as it is the last page of this chapter):

- Joran's parents did suspect something and often remarked on it but at those occasions Joran tried to change the subject ASAP. His parents were among others preaching "if you do it, at least do it safely", that was a message they felt strongly about. And I always practiced that. If buddies needed protection, they could always come to me because they knew I always carried a condom in my wallet, just in case.

- it is always up to the girl how far we go and how quickly. Sometimes I meet a girl that I hang around with all vacation, some just for a night. Sometimes a girl just want to go see a movie together. If she is really nice then that too is no problem. Anything was possible, it was soo easy to let it all hang out on the island. Girls occupied a lot of my time.

- On Aruba girls give it up (sex) much more easily. The weather is nice, everybody is a lot nicer. If it gets hot here (weather) than the hormones also start acting up. There are girls here who are just here for the sex, nothing more and nothing less. They are not stupid. I don't have the illusion that they were all smitten/infatuated with me.

- On Aruba you must also expect that your girlfriend might be getting it on with someone else too. It is a small island. You all go to the same schools, know the same crowd, go to the same clubs to go out and pick up girls. You have to be really good in order to be a player. Joran personally knows a few guys who have 2 or 3 phones for that reason. Joran only had 1 and that was private. I did not like it when girls were looking in my phone who I had been phoning/text messaging with. "If you would trust me, you would not check up on my through my phone" is what Joran would say to them. But he did not deserve that trust because he was no angel.

- sometimes we would rent a hotel room. I happened that three guys were in the same room having sex with girls. I was given a blow job on a balcony once by an American girl while Deepak was in the bathroom with a girl and Freddy was in the room proper with a girl too. But we did never share a girl or did threesomes. That was going way too far for me. We did however make topless pictures of a girl in a hotel room once.

- I don't really enjoy telling you about all these things. I think my private life is my own business. But I have no choice and have to tell these things because I want to be honest. Everyone I know has been questioned and every secret I have ever had has come out. Because I am a so-called "public figure" people can say anything they want about me, so I no longer have a private life.


What an upstanding young man.  Just the kind of guy you want to take you to the debutante formal. Twisted Evil
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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2007, 11:44:49 PM »

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This Motion was a request to compel to the Kalpos.  The list of documents, is their response.
There very well could be a statement from Val and phone records in Joran's documents (and not privy to Kalpos).
The 171 pages is not everything IMO.
I agree and believe there is a lot more. IMO
ooops, didn't see klaas's response above as was typing at the same time.
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« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2007, 11:47:26 PM »

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Paulus read Joran's book, before Joran ever published it. Goes to show us, Paulus is not as intelligent as he would have us all believe. The book tells of his poor parenting skills, IMO


He had to tell us about the pimps..That was the lifestyle they lived everyday. He woulda had to stop at age 14 if he left that out. Makes me ill hearing about his conquests..No doubt the parents helped create a monster.Sounds like they hung out at Jorans most of the time as well..You know damn well they were there that night with Anita gone..


I would venture to say that of the parents, one was living vicariously through Deepak and one was reliving her glory days as the go-to-girl.
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« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2007, 11:48:10 PM »

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Paulus read Joran's book, before Joran ever published it. Goes to show us, Paulus is not as intelligent as he would have us all believe. The book tells of his poor parenting skills, IMO


He had to tell us about the pimps..That was the lifestyle they lived everyday. He woulda had to stop at age 14 if he left that out. Makes me ill hearing about his conquests..No doubt the parents helped create a monster.Sounds like they hung out at Jorans most of the time as well..You know damn well they were there that night with Anita gone..


I would venture to say that of the parents, one was living vicariously through joran and one was reliving her glory days as the go-to-girl.  Let me correct that.  I have got Deepak on the brain seeing as Joran says he never had sex with a girl and now he is saying he was in another room having sex with someone.  I just wonder if that someone was Guido.
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