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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2007, 11:49:33 PM »

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"American girls are the loosest / wildest of the lot"

No Fair! Glenda/Renfro obviously skews this result.

You can only count her once! Not how many times...


I was a 21year old 3 decades ago give or take...went to CA on a vacation with 5 other young women after graduation.  When in Yosemite, a tour guide told us blatantly that we looked like hussies (sp?)...because we had worn halter tops, hot pants & nail polish....we were so bewildered, insulted and embarrassed....we were just wearing what the east had as current for that time...hussy was the farthest from our minds and not on our agenda....the stereotype didn't fit then and it doesn't fit now...imo....the American girls reference just brought that memory back....it wasn't nice.
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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2007, 11:50:50 PM »

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Paulus read Joran's book, before Joran ever published it. Goes to show us, Paulus is not as intelligent as he would have us all believe. The book tells of his poor parenting skills, IMO


He had to tell us about the pimps..That was the lifestyle they lived everyday. He woulda had to stop at age 14 if he left that out. Makes me ill hearing about his conquests..No doubt the parents helped create a monster.Sounds like they hung out at Jorans most of the time as well..You know damn well they were there that night with Anita gone..


I would venture to say that of the parents, one was living vicariously through joran and one was reliving her glory days as the go-to-girl.  Let me correct that.  I have got Deepak on the brain seeing as Joran says he never had sex with a girl and now he is saying he was in another room having sex with someone.  I just wonder if that someone was Guido.
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« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2007, 11:53:22 PM »

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Paulus read Joran's book, before Joran ever published it. Goes to show us, Paulus is not as intelligent as he would have us all believe. The book tells of his poor parenting skills, IMO


He had to tell us about the pimps..That was the lifestyle they lived everyday. He woulda had to stop at age 14 if he left that out. Makes me ill hearing about his conquests..No doubt the parents helped create a monster.Sounds like they hung out at Jorans most of the time as well..You know damn well they were there that night with Anita gone..


I would venture to say that of the parents, one was living vicariously through joran and one was reliving her glory days as the go-to-girl.  Let me correct that.  I have got Deepak on the brain seeing as Joran says he never had sex with a girl and now he is saying he was in another room having sex with someone.  I just wonder if that someone was Guido.


Thats a sick thought..lol.. I always wondered since joran had a black eye and guido scratches if they were doing something with NH that night when she woke up. I can only imagine her fear when she awoke..And I do beleave she did..
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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2007, 11:53:44 PM »

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"American girls are the loosest / wildest of the lot"

No Fair! Glenda/Renfro obviously skews this result.

You can only count her once! Not how many times...


I was a 21year old 3 decades ago give or take...went to CA on a vacation with 5 other young women after graduation.  When in Yosemite, a tour guide told us blatantly that we looked like hussies (sp?)...because we had worn halter tops, hot pants & nail polish....we were so bewildered, insulted and embarrassed....we were just wearing what the east had as current for that time...hussy was the farthest from our minds and not on our agenda....the stereotype didn't fit then and it doesn't fit now...imo....the American girls reference just brought that memory back....it wasn't nice.
It isn't nice! Renho has dubbed all American girls as "easy"...that is why I don't feel sorry for the woman when I hear people talk bad of her. She opened herself up for whatever she gets. JMHO
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« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2007, 11:57:11 PM »

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This Motion was a request to compel to the Kalpos.  The list of documents, is their response.
There very well could be a statement from Val and phone records in Joran's documents (and not privy to Kalpos).
The 171 pages is not everything IMO.

I'm not so sure about that.  I would bet that the Dr. Phil people were given access to the list of available documents.  Now there could be some statments that KJ didn't release to the suspects so nobody but the prosecutors office has them.  The list in the Motion to Compel is the list of documents that the Dr. Phil people requested and the Kalpoes do not want to produce.


I didn't think that Dr. Phil generated this list.  When K2 didn't respond, Dr. Phil requested specifics.  In response to those requests, the K2 list the names of "priveleged" documents in their possession and reference the Phil request number.  I could be wrong on this.  I thought the list came from Kalpos in response to Dr. Phil.  I didn't read it as Phil generating the list.  hmmmm
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« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2007, 11:57:13 PM »

Have we heard anything from our Monkeys in the areas of the tornadoes?
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« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2007, 11:58:50 PM »

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Have we heard anything from our Monkeys in the areas of the tornadoes?

I know Carnut lives in Kansas but he's always welcomed "weather" Wink  I hope he's OK.
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« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2007, 12:00:42 AM »

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Have we heard anything from our Monkeys in the areas of the tornadoes?
Hi IBE! I read where they said Carnut lives in that area. I do not know who else does? But, I hope all are ok and safe.
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« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2007, 12:03:51 AM »

Yeh, and Joran doesn't do threesomes....except perhaps that time with the girl under the blanket, in front of his friends, with the "liquid" that  made her lips tingle, when he asked her to also screw the guy also ...ooops forgot that one.
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« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2007, 12:07:04 AM »

And I don't believe Freddy only speaks papi...his brother is Ernesto and he works at Champions (the tourist bar)...no English???  pleeeease...
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« Reply #70 on: May 06, 2007, 12:10:12 AM »

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And I don't believe Freddy only speaks papi...his brother is Ernesto and he works at Champions (the tourist bar)...no English???  pleeeease...
I would bet money he speaks English (when he wants to)
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« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2007, 12:22:33 AM »

Goodnight monkeys!!  (unless I cannot sleep) Laughing
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« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2007, 12:29:07 AM »

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Have we heard anything from our Monkeys in the areas of the tornadoes?

I know Carnut lives in Kansas but he's always welcomed "weather" Wink  I hope he's OK.


Not sure if that twister was near Wichita...think that's where Carnut parks his veehickles.....hope he's okay, too.
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« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2007, 12:30:00 AM »

Narcistic...look it up..
He has no feelings for other people. He has " feelings " for girls, but that is just lust and hormones. Something very odd in his makeup. And it was there for a long time. Only remorse he has is when he gets caught.
Think he also likes the attention he gets, he is the centre of the universe, the rest of the world are his planets. Maybe that is why we don't understand him, because we are human.
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« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2007, 12:33:56 AM »

Wichita, KS is where a ref. is on carnut.com. I even went through some of the links trying to find an email. I have made up a bunch of email addys and hope he gets one. I hope he, his family and all our Monkeys are safe!

Just will have to wait until he and the other Monkeys in KS, Okla check in!

Hate waiting. OT Think I am going to try to save money and take the Apple training. I'd like to become a Apple tech of laptops. Fix them up by buying parts on eBay and then giving them to youth who could use them for word processing, homework, good Internet research. So how's that for a new "career" in the mid-60's?

Am getting "non-delivered" messages back on my emails. Will have to think of more combos.

I wish all the Monkeys good health, happiness and safety.  Good night Elaine!
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« Reply #75 on: May 06, 2007, 12:34:52 AM »

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« Reply #76 on: May 06, 2007, 12:35:54 AM »

Night all. Want to try to sleep so can get up early and check if everyone is OK here.
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« Reply #77 on: May 06, 2007, 12:42:39 AM »

Nite IBE
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« Reply #78 on: May 06, 2007, 12:52:20 AM »

hi guys!

I'm never going to catch up, but I'm really impressed with the work that I have seen in here! You guys are impressive!!!!
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« Reply #79 on: May 06, 2007, 12:54:44 AM »

Quote from: "Tylergal"
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Quote from: "Elaine"
Paulus read Joran's book, before Joran ever published it. Goes to show us, Paulus is not as intelligent as he would have us all believe. The book tells of his poor parenting skills, IMO


He had to tell us about the pimps..That was the lifestyle they lived everyday. He woulda had to stop at age 14 if he left that out. Makes me ill hearing about his conquests..No doubt the parents helped create a monster.Sounds like they hung out at Jorans most of the time as well..You know damn well they were there that night with Anita gone..


I would venture to say that of the parents, one was living vicariously through joran and one was reliving her glory days as the go-to-girl.  Let me correct that.  I have got Deepak on the brain seeing as Joran says he never had sex with a girl and now he is saying he was in another room having sex with someone.  I just wonder if that someone was Guido.



Joran Van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 10, 2005


To you question as to why Deepak and Satish don't pick up girls with their nice car, I answer you that I do not know why. You have to ask them. I have never seen Deepak or Satish in the company of a girl. I have never seen Deepak dance but I once saw Satish dance with "Carmen JACCOPUCHI".


Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 10, 2005


To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.

To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.

To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.
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