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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #614 5/5 - 5/6/2007  (Read 139035 times)
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« Reply #740 on: May 07, 2007, 01:45:14 AM »

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I read everything that is posted, please don't think you aren't important. Sometimes, the pages go by so fast and some of us are trying to catch up to be in realtime posting and by the time we get caught up everybody has gone. Also, alot of times by the time I get caught up everything has been hashed out and the questions I had come to mind have been asked and answered by then.  I do read your posts as I think you have lots of good material that comes into discussions. Smile So, please know that you are just as important as anybody else is here and your input is just as valuable. Smile
 
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Me too!  What Roos said! i mostly lurk and value everyone's input.  By the time I think of something, one of the monkeys has already said it!


Ditto to the above.  Also for me I'm always reading another site, moderating the front page or checking out other areas of this forum.  Then I also check for any updates on Aruban or Dutch websites throughout the day.  Often times I miss when people come into the forum.
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« Reply #741 on: May 07, 2007, 01:45:45 AM »

Well, it's over 5 min and I am half there!

Wasn't there some place we have this in frames? I have to listen to Joran and watch his smirk. Gads!

This could be it for someone could zero in on Paulus's watch from these frames.

Think I am getting a little tired. Gads it loads in in the buffers and I hear his voice when not expecting it!

Do I have to register to save it in "my favorites?
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« Reply #742 on: May 07, 2007, 01:47:49 AM »

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Well, it's over 5 min and I am half there!

Wasn't there some place we have this in frames? I have to listen to Joran and watch his smirk. Gads!

This could be it for someone could zero in on Paulus's watch from these frames.

Think I am getting a little tired. Gads it loads in in the buffers and I hear his voice when not expecting it!

Do I have to register to save it in "my favorites?

We have some frames saved but you've seen all those.  I don't remember one where PVDS is standing up though.  Just turn your sound off, that's what I do, LOL  Laughing
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« Reply #743 on: May 07, 2007, 01:48:43 AM »

Remember in the beginning of this Thread or the last one, Monkeys were asking who is the tall man in the photo when Paulus and Joran are showing being left out of jail and at a press annoc..? Then someone said it was the same man that Anita was kicking?

Could it be Lorenzo?? Just had to put that in here Laughing

I wouldn't think she would kick an attorney? but could a step son?
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« Reply #744 on: May 07, 2007, 01:52:45 AM »

Did someone say he stood up? It is still loading in a window behind the one I am writing to you on,

Tonight was serious but funny too.. I labeled some of the pages Shoe Humor 1, 2 etc[

think I'll call it a night. Will keep checking in until it loads fully tho. Sometimes, it's hard to let go Laughing on Pacific Time!
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« Reply #745 on: May 07, 2007, 01:53:23 AM »

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Remember in the beginning of this Thread or the last one, Monkeys were asking who is the tall man in the photo when Paulus and Joran are showing being left out of jail and at a press annoc..? Then someone said it was the same man that Anita was kicking?

Could it be Lorenzo?? Just had to put that in here Laughing

I wouldn't think she would kick an attorney? but could a step son?

I really don't think so.  Lorenzo would never allow his photo to be taken, LOL  Laughing
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« Reply #746 on: May 07, 2007, 01:54:04 AM »

Nite IBE

I think I'll go play a couple games  Wink
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« Reply #747 on: May 07, 2007, 02:00:09 AM »

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On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.


Interesting.  In the beginning the story was that the boys were with Momma....

Now we have both Sebastian and Val at the house?

So, given the fact that we all agree that paulus is the one in the casino video we should all look at it this way...:

throw out everything Joran and Paulus has said and start over.  they have given a lot of half truths and it is very difficult to pin down which half is truth and which half is fiction....so assume it is all a lie and work with more forensic facts like the video, calls, etc...

secondly, arrest and bring in for questions BOTH younger brothers.  They half to know something including the fact that Paulus was not at home like he says he was, right?  Besides that will make both him and Anita sweat more....

Third, assume the size 14 shoe(s) are a plant to try to cover for the true missing shoe....

Fourth, given this new information take some more strong looks at the Shango/Simian posts ... see if these facts are encrypted there....

fifth, assume someone very very high up is the real Dirty Hands....

sixth, assume that this investigation has much deeper roots into perhaps organized crime and U.S. national security....

I believe it is possible that Shango is a U.S. agent who didn't have any other means to help let the truth out than through the posts we have seen and may also very well be the individual who leaked the video (do you realize how difficult it would be to get a copy of that thing?  let alone smuggle it out of casino security?
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« Reply #748 on: May 07, 2007, 02:05:37 AM »

Goodnight Casa!

Goodnight to all the other monkeys & lurkers out there.....

Hopefully, we'll get some good news soon!  Monkeys Rock!

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« Reply #749 on: May 07, 2007, 02:12:43 AM »

Hi guys! Will someone please take pity on me and tell me if it's now established that Joran's brothers WERE at home the night Nat went missing???

I guess I haven't gone back far enough to figure that out.
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« Reply #750 on: May 07, 2007, 02:17:20 AM »

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Hi guys! Will someone please take pity on me and tell me if it's now established that Joran's brothers WERE at home the night Nat went missing???

I guess I haven't gone back far enough to figure that out.

I don't think we know for sure.  I believe Val was home, not sure about Sebastian.

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« Reply #751 on: May 07, 2007, 02:22:29 AM »

IBE - is this the screen capture you are looking for?

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« Reply #752 on: May 07, 2007, 02:23:58 AM »

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« Reply #753 on: May 07, 2007, 02:26:21 AM »

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Hi guys! Will someone please take pity on me and tell me if it's now established that Joran's brothers WERE at home the night Nat went missing???

I guess I haven't gone back far enough to figure that out.


Sorry, CBB - if it was established I missed it.
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« Reply #754 on: May 07, 2007, 02:27:27 AM »

G'Night monkeys (and G'Day Tib).  Let's hope that tomorrow brings resolution for Natalee's family.
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« Reply #755 on: May 07, 2007, 02:43:08 AM »

Yes, it is the one with the watch. Someone spent a lot of time zero-ing on that watch and was trying to prove it was Paulus's watch, arm (besides the hair) frame by frame but I don't know whether it was here or on FP or where now.

Brain is in a blur......Thanks to all of you, IBE opps.. you don't make my brain a blur Laughing

I say it a different way... Thank you, Monkeys for all your Good Works.

PS Whomever Shango is, I hope he/she is safe. I did hours of research on what he said and then it was said it was based on Marvel Comics which I hadn't ever read!

We sure learn here!
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I have been reading here and doing YouTube that I am trying to watching a TV show about lakes blowing up and missed almost all of it! They were talking about the CO2 at Mammoth Lakes in CA and how it killed some people in 2006. As a hobby I used to monitor the earthquakes and CO2 there about a decade ago... it was rising fast in certain areas but not much press over it for it is such a tourist place.

Still laughing over the shoe humor here tonight. I know the discussion was serious, but it was funny at the same time!

Can't say we don't engage our hands, brains, and feet here and aiming for Justice for Natalee!
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« Reply #756 on: May 07, 2007, 02:52:11 AM »

It's hard for me here to remember even from page to page on info and who puts it here... Brain fog

SilverFox... yes, especially the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth ones!

Thanks Slueth and all,  Good night. At least I can see the last of the TV..."Killer Lakes"

 Rolling Eyes Hope I don't have nightmares... most of mine are my dog is old and I worry and moving and earthquakes
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« Reply #757 on: May 07, 2007, 03:00:25 AM »

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On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.
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« Reply #758 on: May 07, 2007, 05:47:49 AM »

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You notice in the frame that Natalee looks repulsed in her conversation with Paulus -- look at her body language -- when you look at the video notice she is as far away from him as she can get without sitting on her girlfriend's lap.

Also, I heard that these videos also have audio, is that true?  Perhaps an audio engineer can pick up on what is being said at that table -- or maybe the police have already done this and it is part of the overall evidence that is mounting against PVDS and his son.

Can anyone reference the original sources where it was said the younger boys were with their mother?  in light of Paulus' police statement we might have something very interesting here....
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« Reply #759 on: May 07, 2007, 07:00:48 AM »

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