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« Reply #860 on: May 07, 2007, 11:53:55 AM »

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So what is more simple than a urine sample on a female?  The only two reasons would be to check for drugs or pregnancy.  Both would require follow up blood samples for verification.   What other reasons would there be?


Maybe she had just got back from Aruba and called a tip line to report that she was drugged at that bar on her last night there.


Isn't that what I just said?  I think I am confused now. LOL
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« Reply #861 on: May 07, 2007, 11:56:10 AM »

As Rob said earlier, we are all stuck with a lot of loose ends and no way of systematically including, or excluding peripheral information.  We need the complete set of files!  How long do the Kalpoes have before responding to the latest request for discovery?
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« Reply #862 on: May 07, 2007, 11:58:19 AM »

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So what is more simple than a urine sample on a female?  The only two reasons would be to check for drugs or pregnancy.  Both would require follow up blood samples for verification.   What other reasons would there be?


Maybe she had just got back from Aruba and called a tip line to report that she was drugged at that bar on her last night there.


Isn't that what I just said?  I think I am confused now. LOL


Not sure! lol

I was thinking everyone thought she must have been at the bar the night Natalee disappeared.  I was thinking she could have been there on the 5th of June and called the cops as soon as she got back to America.
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« Reply #863 on: May 07, 2007, 12:04:06 PM »

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So what is more simple than a urine sample on a female?  The only two reasons would be to check for drugs or pregnancy.  Both would require follow up blood samples for verification.   What other reasons would there be?


Maybe she had just got back from Aruba and called a tip line to report that she was drugged at that bar on her last night there.


Isn't that what I just said?  I think I am confused now. LOL


Not sure! lol

I was thinking everyone thought she must have been at the bar the night Natalee disappeared.  I was thinking she could have been there on the 5th of June and called the cops as soon as she got back to America.



LOL!  We are on the same page.  I think it's my pencils, they need sharpening...be back in a bit.  Wink
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« Reply #864 on: May 07, 2007, 12:04:38 PM »

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So what is more simple than a urine sample on a female?  The only two reasons would be to check for drugs or pregnancy.  Both would require follow up blood samples for verification.   What other reasons would there be?


Maybe she had just got back from Aruba and called a tip line to report that she was drugged at that bar on her last night there.


Isn't that what I just said?  I think I am confused now. LOL


Not sure! lol

I was thinking everyone thought she must have been at the bar the night Natalee disappeared.  I was thinking she could have been there on the 5th of June and called the cops as soon as she got back to America.


Or... perhaps she was there and for some unknown or insane reason happen to get one of the drinks Joran might have provided or Natalee -- and got sick or passed out herself...only to report it after going home....

howz that for speculation?
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« Reply #865 on: May 07, 2007, 12:07:13 PM »

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So what is more simple than a urine sample on a female?  The only two reasons would be to check for drugs or pregnancy.  Both would require follow up blood samples for verification.   What other reasons would there be?


Maybe she had just got back from Aruba and called a tip line to report that she was drugged at that bar on her last night there.


Isn't that what I just said?  I think I am confused now. LOL


Not sure! lol

I was thinking everyone thought she must have been at the bar the night Natalee disappeared.  I was thinking she could have been there on the 5th of June and called the cops as soon as she got back to America.


Or... perhaps she was there and for some unknown or insane reason happen to get one of the drinks Joran might have provided or Natalee -- and got sick or passed out herself...only to report it after going home....

howz that for speculation?


Wonder what size shoes she wears.....   Cool
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« Reply #866 on: May 07, 2007, 12:07:24 PM »

Silverfox: Check the avatar thread.  Wink

I'm following you guys..............you make lurking worthwhile!
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« Reply #867 on: May 07, 2007, 12:09:36 PM »

I just can't seem to make a logical connection between this witness and Natalee. There's got to be something though or it would not be part of the case files. IMO
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« Reply #868 on: May 07, 2007, 12:09:53 PM »

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Anna.....you look very pretty today...lol. Wink
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« Reply #869 on: May 07, 2007, 12:13:03 PM »

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Joran needs to sue the ghost writer, because so far this book is garbage!  It reads like a childish entry into a bad diary.  I like her, she like me, we don't like no more, next....  ARGH!


YEP......PLUS.....she did me and I did her and all her friends and I lied and said I did not...and we all DO each other......gross....
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« Reply #870 on: May 07, 2007, 12:19:51 PM »

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OK......one thing that bothers me about this video/casino/Paul thingy is that there were PLENTY of people around that table and witnesses......did anyone of THOSE peeps say it WAS HIM?? We do not need video to prove it....ASK the people who were at the damn table!! SIMPLE!!!
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« Reply #871 on: May 07, 2007, 12:28:07 PM »

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OK......one thing that bothers me about this video/casino/Paul thingy is that there were PLENTY of people around that table and witnesses......did anyone of THOSE peeps say it WAS HIM?? We do not need video to prove it....ASK the people who were at the damn table!! SIMPLE!!!


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« Reply #872 on: May 07, 2007, 12:28:19 PM »

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OK......one thing that bothers me about this video/casino/Paul thingy is that there were PLENTY of people around that table and witnesses......did anyone of THOSE peeps say it WAS HIM?? We do not need video to prove it....ASK the people who were at the damn table!! SIMPLE!!!


Thatís my thinking too, but the MB kids did not seem to be all that observant that night.  I remember in one of the statements a girl says Natalee never sat down at the blackjack table and stood next to someone.  Then we see the HI video and Natalee is obviously sitting at the table.  I just doubt any of them gave the older guy a second look.
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« Reply #873 on: May 07, 2007, 12:29:36 PM »

I'd like to post I agree with Anna's assessment of the importance of the shoes and I hope the argument over sizing can stop for I guess it's often misinterpreted whatever I post, but essentially without the shoe or a tracing of his foot (ALE might shoulda coulda woulda done that).........we can't know.

Easy I like your shoe jokies  Laughing

I have to admit I was told something different by Beth's side regarding William's phone call and the message originally, did Beth actually participate in the final Q&A that BFN posted?  Confused Just asking ... but NOT to muddy the waters or to generate new angst or debate.
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« Reply #874 on: May 07, 2007, 12:31:12 PM »

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Thatís my thinking too, but the MB kids did not seem to be all that observant that night.  I remember in one of the statements a girl says Natalee never sat down at the blackjack table and stood next to someone.  Then we see the HI video and Natalee is obviously sitting at the table.  I just doubt any of them gave the older guy a second look.


If I were a teenage girl having fun on my island vacation, there is no way I'd notice an unattractive middle-aged man. I'd be concentrating on any cute young guys in the area, so I can see why they wouldn't remember Paulus.
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« Reply #875 on: May 07, 2007, 12:32:58 PM »

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I have to admit I was told something different by Beth's side regarding William's phone call and the message originally, did Beth actually participate in the final Q&A that BFN posted?  Confused Just asking ... but NOT to muddy the waters or to generate new angst or debate.


None - Yes, Beth & Dave.
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« Reply #876 on: May 07, 2007, 12:33:49 PM »

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I have to admit I was told something different by Beth's side regarding William's phone call and the message originally, did Beth actually participate in the final Q&A that BFN posted?  Confused Just asking ... but NOT to muddy the waters or to generate new angst or debate.


None - Yes, Beth & Dave.


I would not be commenting about phone calls otherwise.
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« Reply #877 on: May 07, 2007, 12:35:01 PM »

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I'd like to post I agree with Anna's assessment of the importance of the shoes and I hope the argument over sizing can stop for I guess it's often misinterpreted whatever I post, but essentially without the shoe or a tracing of his foot (ALE might shoulda coulda woulda done that).........we can't know.

Easy I like your shoe jokies  Laughing

I have to admit I was told something different by Beth's side regarding William's phone call and the message originally, did Beth actually participate in the final Q&A that BFN posted?  Confused Just asking ... but NOT to muddy the waters or to generate new angst or debate.


Good questions nonesy! How are you? I love to see your cheerful self here! Hope your Monday is going well!  Wink
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« Reply #878 on: May 07, 2007, 12:35:54 PM »

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Thatís my thinking too, but the MB kids did not seem to be all that observant that night.  I remember in one of the statements a girl says Natalee never sat down at the blackjack table and stood next to someone.  Then we see the HI video and Natalee is obviously sitting at the table.  I just doubt any of them gave the older guy a second look.


If I were a teenage girl having fun on my island vacation, there is no way I'd notice an unattractive middle-aged man. I'd be concentrating on any cute young guys in the area, so I can see why they wouldn't remember Paulus.


Yep, these were just kids being kids on vacation.  They were more interested in each other and other kids in the same age bracket.
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« Reply #879 on: May 07, 2007, 12:41:57 PM »

Hi CBB, I'm doing good sweet one and how are you? You've dressed everyone so well, I need to change to my new clothes too, I plan to get that done!

msmarples I just feel a need to dispel the confusion in my own mind - it wasn't directed as a slight to anyone, I'm going to email SB to ask, he was there for the meeting and I had heard from someone else there that Beth wasn't able to stay as long. I feel sure SB was listening and taking notes too.
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