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« Reply #940 on: May 07, 2007, 03:15:51 PM »

Just a Observation..Picture of the Protest Vs Beth and a picture of Joran when he was released. Who's kids are these?



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« Reply #941 on: May 07, 2007, 03:16:47 PM »

Kids are probably Joran's  Laughing
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« Reply #942 on: May 07, 2007, 03:16:48 PM »

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Hi everyone and good afternoon!

Nut: I said it before, I'll say it again. Take it for what it's worth.  I saw with MY OWN TWO EYES on the video that FOX and MSNBC showed...
Paulus standing up on the right side of the poll facing the dealer, smiling and talking with him. Then the video/tape/clip breaks and goes back to them all sitting at the table. You could clearly see it IS PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT. Nuff said! <grumbles>

Paulus went to Florida. And according to his comment about why he would leave Aruba while his son was in jail was that he went to Florida to withdraw Joran from College. I know I know, doesn't make sense, but does anything the Sloots do or say make sense?  Speculation: Most feel Paulus went to Florida to retrieve a snuff film or pictures taken of Natalee from the night in question. But, that was the reason Paulus gave for going to Florida, to withdraw Joran from college.

IIRC about who was home the night in question...It was Anita who claimed, in an interview, she, Val and Sabastian were in NL the night of May 29th. And unlike everything else that disappears, her statement has disappeared too. But I remember her stating this. It was big talk over on BFN when I posted there back in August 2005.

Natalee phone calls: Beth had made a statement to Greta as they were leaving the Sloots house. "I got what I came here for", meaning she had known Natalee had been there because of the monkey screaming. It was the same sound in the back ground noise in the phone call. Beth was clear on that. Why she is retracting that statement as if she never said it I don't know.


Dkpen

You've answered a question I asked earlier today."Did paulas go to Florida the spring/summer of 2005?"
Do you know the dates he was there and what city he was in?

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« Reply #943 on: May 07, 2007, 03:18:44 PM »

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It is on record that the ALE has possession of the casino records from May 29, 2005.

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ABC 7 NEWS - CHICAGO
February 23, 2006


Posner says it was he who voluntarily turned over this casino surveillance tape to Aruban authorities and that he is furious they have allowed ABC News to broadcast it.


So the question is...is Posner in on the coverup or not.  If not, I'd bet he still has all the surveilance videos from inside the casino that night.


Another question is..Why did Posner hire his own Private Investigators when he was not even on the island when NH dissapeared?


To help with the inside cover up?


Posner also helping the Kalpoes with  Lawyer's out of Chicago?Or was that just refferal?


First I've heard of this.
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« Reply #944 on: May 07, 2007, 03:20:57 PM »

I think it's important to specifiy when you make a statement that you make sure we know if it's a strong opinion or fact based upon research.

Sometimes we, me included, state things as if they are fact when they are actually opinion.
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« Reply #945 on: May 07, 2007, 03:21:58 PM »

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Quote from: "dkpen"
Hi everyone and good afternoon!

Nut: I said it before, I'll say it again. Take it for what it's worth.  I saw with MY OWN TWO EYES on the video that FOX and MSNBC showed...
Paulus standing up on the right side of the poll facing the dealer, smiling and talking with him. Then the video/tape/clip breaks and goes back to them all sitting at the table. You could clearly see it IS PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT. Nuff said! <grumbles>

Paulus went to Florida. And according to his comment about why he would leave Aruba while his son was in jail was that he went to Florida to withdraw Joran from College. I know I know, doesn't make sense, but does anything the Sloots do or say make sense?  Speculation: Most feel Paulus went to Florida to retrieve a snuff film or pictures taken of Natalee from the night in question. But, that was the reason Paulus gave for going to Florida, to withdraw Joran from college.

IIRC about who was home the night in question...It was Anita who claimed, in an interview, she, Val and Sabastian were in NL the night of May 29th. And unlike everything else that disappears, her statement has disappeared too. But I remember her stating this. It was big talk over on BFN when I posted there back in August 2005.

Natalee phone calls: Beth had made a statement to Greta as they were leaving the Sloots house. "I got what I came here for", meaning she had known Natalee had been there because of the monkey screaming. It was the same sound in the back ground noise in the phone call. Beth was clear on that. Why she is retracting that statement as if she never said it I don't know.


Dkpen

You've answered a question I asked earlier today."Did paulas go to Florida the spring/summer of 2005?"
Do you know the dates he was there and what city he was in?

Ado.


Supposedly the city where Joran was to go to college. Date...hmmm...I want to say within the first few weeks Joran was in jail. Wasn't long after Joran was arrested because college was to start soon after. IIRC. Sorry I can't help more. I don't remember the name of the College. It's in South Florida, that much I do know.
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« Reply #946 on: May 07, 2007, 03:22:19 PM »

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Hi everyone and good afternoon!
Natalee phone calls: Beth had made a statement to Greta as they were leaving the Sloots house. "I got what I came here for", meaning she had known Natalee had been there because of the monkey screaming. It was the same sound in the back ground noise in the phone call. Beth was clear on that. Why she is retracting that statement as if she never said it I don't know.


There IS a good reason why the phone call is being somewhat retracted.
Hopefully, this will come out in the trial.
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« Reply #947 on: May 07, 2007, 03:24:18 PM »

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I think it's important to specifiy when you make a statement that you make sure we know if it's a strong opinion or fact based upon research.

Sometimes we, me included, state things as if they are fact when they are actually opinion.


What I am saying are facts. I can't help if suspects or those involved statements disappear. But what I put here are facts. If they are opinions, I am very clear on it.
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« Reply #948 on: May 07, 2007, 03:25:18 PM »

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It is on record that the ALE has possession of the casino records from May 29, 2005.

Janet


ABC 7 NEWS - CHICAGO
February 23, 2006


Posner says it was he who voluntarily turned over this casino surveillance tape to Aruban authorities and that he is furious they have allowed ABC News to broadcast it.


So the question is...is Posner in on the coverup or not.  If not, I'd bet he still has all the surveilance videos from inside the casino that night.


Another question is..Why did Posner hire his own Private Investigators when he was not even on the island when NH dissapeared?


To help with the inside cover up?


Posner also helping the Kalpoes with  Lawyer's out of Chicago?Or was that just refferal?


First I've heard of this.


Why that particular Law Firm? Why Chicago? Why not a Law Firm in Los Angelas or hundreds of other cities? He probably did not admit to the PI until the ABC station in Chicago proved it was a fact.
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« Reply #949 on: May 07, 2007, 03:25:50 PM »

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I think it's important to specifiy when you make a statement that you make sure we know if it's a strong opinion or fact based upon research.

Sometimes we, me included, state things as if they are fact when they are actually opinion.


What I am saying are facts. I can't help if suspects or those involved statements disappear. But what I put here are facts. If they are opinions, I am very clear on it.

Thanks DKPen - I was actually thinking more about the Posner issue and the Kalpoes attorneys.  I also think it's coincidental the Kalpoes are using attorneys out of Chicago but I have no facts connecting to Posner.
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« Reply #950 on: May 07, 2007, 03:29:56 PM »

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I think it's important to specifiy when you make a statement that you make sure we know if it's a strong opinion or fact based upon research.

Sometimes we, me included, state things as if they are fact when they are actually opinion.


What I am saying are facts. I can't help if suspects or those involved statements disappear. But what I put here are facts. If they are opinions, I am very clear on it.

Thanks DKPen - I was actually thinking more about the Posner issue and the Kalpoes attorneys.  I also think it's coincidental the Kalpoes are using attorneys out of Chicago but I have no facts connecting to Posner.


Coincidence or not, it does seem odd they contacted a lawyer out of Chicago. Gives reason for us to question. Or perhaps the lawyer is seeking recognition on a high profile case and contacted them. Guess something we may never know.
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« Reply #951 on: May 07, 2007, 03:29:58 PM »

Tampa area when Joran went there over spring break to check out St. Leo University.
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« Reply #952 on: May 07, 2007, 03:30:55 PM »

I never stated that is a fact that those attorneys from chicago are linked to posner..Although I am very suspicious... It is fact that he hired a PI from after NH went missing in Aruba though.
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« Reply #953 on: May 07, 2007, 03:31:56 PM »

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Tampa area when Joran went there over spring break to check out St. Leo University.


Yes, that's it!  Thanks Kermit.  Very Happy
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« Reply #954 on: May 07, 2007, 03:33:13 PM »

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Natalee phone calls: Beth had made a statement to Greta as they were leaving the Sloots house. "I got what I came here for", meaning she had known Natalee had been there because of the monkey screaming. It was the same sound in the back ground noise in the phone call. Beth was clear on that. Why she is retracting that statement as if she never said it I don't know.



If this the call they played for C Croes over and over, the monkey screaming in the background, they should be able to match up the phone call date and time since it is well documented. In addition, Beth in all honesty could say she didn't get a call from Natalee (if she didn't speak to her) and keep it under wraps.

This documented phone call from the Sloot residence would totally blow JPK2 stories out of the water and would be prime evidence, hence Beth would keep it quiet. One thing is for sure, that phone call must have had some substance because they would not have been playing it over and over again.
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« Reply #955 on: May 07, 2007, 03:33:18 PM »

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I never stated that is a fact that those attorneys from chicago are linked to posner..Although I am very suspicious... It is fact that he hired a PI from after NH went missing in Aruba though.


Yep, I know.  Just sometimes when we, me included, post it looks like fact when it's only a very suspcious coincidence that could be a fact.  Does that make sense?
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« Reply #956 on: May 07, 2007, 03:34:43 PM »

Dayhiker - it would also answer why Beth is so certain Natalee was at the VDS residence.
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« Reply #957 on: May 07, 2007, 03:35:39 PM »

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I never stated that is a fact that those attorneys from chicago are linked to posner..Although I am very suspicious... It is fact that he hired a PI from after NH went missing in Aruba though.



I find the Chicago connection more than coincidental, *******. If you wanted to cut to the chase you would hire LA attorneys who know the Cali court system better from having worked in it year in, year out.
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« Reply #958 on: May 07, 2007, 03:35:52 PM »

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Natalee phone calls: Beth had made a statement to Greta as they were leaving the Sloots house. "I got what I came here for", meaning she had known Natalee had been there because of the monkey screaming. It was the same sound in the back ground noise in the phone call. Beth was clear on that. Why she is retracting that statement as if she never said it I don't know.



If this the call they played for C Croes over and over, the monkey screaming in the background, they should be able to match up the phone call date and time since it is well documented. In addition, Beth in all honesty could say she didn't get a call from Natalee (if she didn't speak to her) and keep it under wraps.

This documented phone call from the Sloot residence would totally blow JPK2 stories out of the water and would be prime evidence, hence Beth would keep it quiet. One thing is for sure, that phone call must have had some substance because they would not have been playing it over and over again.


That is part of the reason they all stay clear away from NH after 2:40AM
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« Reply #959 on: May 07, 2007, 03:37:38 PM »

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I never stated that is a fact that those attorneys from chicago are linked to posner..Although I am very suspicious... It is fact that he hired a PI from after NH went missing in Aruba though.



I find the Chicago connection more than coincidental, *******. If you wanted to cut to the chase you would hire LA attorneys who know the Cali court system better from having worked in it year in, year out.


Of course you would!! Sooo many Law firms in LA that would be perfect to handle that lawsuit..
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