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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #615 5/7 - 5/8/2007  (Read 136801 times)
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2007, 04:45:06 PM »

DKPen and Kermit- Thank you for the info on the last thread... very nice.

It all goes back to Beth's statement that 'she got what she wanted' from the VDS home visit.

Now, as for the phone taps...

I wonder if it is possible that the 'three kidnappers' are named on any of the wiretaps???

Someone has been listening to the VDS land lines before Natalee went to Aruba...jmo..

I think Beth's statement that Natalee did not make any phone calls is truthful... someone else may have made them... and by the looks of the KLPD only searching (that we know of) the VDS home.. it looks like they have ID'd that as the mystery site.

Now wrap this case up and get these CRIMINAL arrested.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2007, 04:46:24 PM »

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I know its extremely difficult to judge his shoe size but I am looking at the shoe in perspective to his ankle. It just does not look like size 14.IMO..If I was sitting next to him I am almost sure my shoes would be bigger..I wear size 12.



I see we are talking about shoe size this afternoon, Afternoon Monkeys.

I have to say again that in the pic posted, the sneaker size looks much larger than a 12 when you consider the reported size/height (6"4")  of Joran. That is a good pic for looking at his sneaker size BTW when compared with a few other pics like the one at pool side, where his feet are closer to the lens/camera taking the photo, making them appear bigger.
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2007, 04:46:48 PM »

In the comparison pics...not only does the shirt look the same, but the watches and same hairline, nose, chin. I'm telling you all it is Paulus. I saw a clip showing him standing up facing the dealer, smiling and talking. This comparison just more proof for everyone since no one else but IBE saw the video clip I am speaking about.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2007, 04:47:13 PM »

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Also looks like the watch never moved ....
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2007, 04:49:05 PM »

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Logically, Joran should wear larger than a size 10 1/2

However, Anna and others have a good point and it's more likely Joran claimed he wore a size 14 to throw off the investigation.


Klass ... I agree.

JI just rounded up a pair of my youngest son's sneakers ... he is 5' 11" and ... the sneakers are size 10 1/2 (US).

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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2007, 04:50:21 PM »

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Also looks like the watch never moved ....



Yep, same tilt of the watch. Both pics show the watch is not centered on the wrist but fallen to the side of the wrist.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2007, 04:53:15 PM »

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When Greta interviewed Joran, he said himself he is about 6'2" or 6'3", not 6'5" like everyone posted. So that would make a difference in the shoe size.

I have a cousin who is about 6'3" that wears a size 16 shoe. He has to have his shoes special made for him.


Infact dkpen in this Greta interview Joran says he is 6'3" or 6'4"

VAN SUSTEREN: How tall are you?

VAN DER SLOOT: Probably 6-4 or 6-3.

VAN SUSTEREN: How much do you weigh?

VAN DER SLOOT: Two-twenty, I think.

VAN SUSTEREN: OK, so you're big.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2007, 04:53:16 PM »

I have a minor theory on the shoe size.

You know how a size 6 dress is now a size 4?

An XL shirt is now XXL?

I have a feeling that shoes are also sized the same..

I used to always wear a size 10.5.. now I wear an 11 or 11.5 or even once in a while, if the shoes are Italian, a 9.5.

Sizes for clothes and shoes seem to be totally up to the manufacturer's discretion.

I have shirts from Gold's Gym that are a medium...and I used to always wear a large dress shirt, but that to have some cut because my neck is 18.5 inches around. Now I have to always buy XL shirts no matter who makes them...and still have them cut.

Now if Joran says he wears a 14.. that could easily be a 12 or a 15... depends on the shoe and the manufacturer.
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2007, 04:58:08 PM »

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Kermit writes: "A Twitty family friend tells me that “I don’t know these people” was the code Beth had with her kids just in case."

Gerben said it was "inconclusive."  I don't know about that.

In the absence of accurate phone records, how can the code claim be disproven, by Tacopina, or Carlo, or any of them?

This is an important piece of the case.

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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2007, 04:59:36 PM »

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In the comparison pics...not only does the shirt look the same, but the watches and same hairline, nose, chin. I'm telling you all it is Paulus. I saw a clip showing him standing up facing the dealer, smiling and talking. This comparison just more proof for everyone since no one else but IBE saw the video clip I am speaking about.

I've looked everywhere for that complete clip and I can't find it.  It must have been on the original ABC show and not the GMA version.
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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2007, 05:04:12 PM »

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dkpen ... same shirt ... excellent observation!

I hope the family is made aware of the comparisons between the casino segment and the photo of Paulus at his gate in regards to the hairline.  Also ... the shirt observation is also very telling.

Janet

Red was going to send all that to Beth and Dave.


Great!!

The watch matches too
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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2007, 05:08:38 PM »

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I have a minor theory on the shoe size.

You know how a size 6 dress is now a size 4?

An XL shirt is now XXL?

I have a feeling that shoes are also sized the same..

I used to always wear a size 10.5.. now I wear an 11 or 11.5 or even once in a while, if the shoes are Italian, a 9.5.

Sizes for clothes and shoes seem to be totally up to the manufacturer's discretion.

I have shirts from Gold's Gym that are a medium...and I used to always wear a large dress shirt, but that to have some cut because my neck is 18.5 inches around. Now I have to always buy XL shirts no matter who makes them...and still have them cut.
Now if Joran says he wears a 14.. that could easily be a 12 or a 15... depends on the shoe and the manufacturer.


Woohoo Rob, pump it up!  
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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2007, 05:13:44 PM »

well, i think he wears a size 14 ish

and i think he scrunched his toes to fit into a size 10.5

ALE should have checked to see if his HEAL was in the back of the shoe

they are INCOMPETANT  Mad
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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2007, 05:14:31 PM »

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I know its extremely difficult to judge his shoe size but I am looking at the shoe in perspective to his ankle. It just does not look like size 14.IMO..If I was sitting next to him I am almost sure my shoes would be bigger..I wear size 12.



I see we are talking about shoe size this afternoon, Afternoon Monkeys.

I have to say again that in the pic posted, the sneaker size looks much larger than a 12 when you consider the reported size/height (6"4")  of Joran. That is a good pic for looking at his sneaker size BTW when compared with a few other pics like the one at pool side, where his feet are closer to the lens/camera taking the photo, making them appear bigger.

This pic was in 2002.
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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2007, 05:15:29 PM »

i bet the k2 brothers wear a size 10

he probably planted a size 10 on the beach

he has thrown the K2's away several times Cool
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2007, 05:15:47 PM »

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well, i think he wears a size 14 ish

and i think he scrunched his toes to fit into a size 10.5

ALE should have checked to see if his HEAL was in the back of the shoe

they are INCOMPETANT  Mad


Not only are they incompetant, but they are liars who refuse to step up and tell the truth and stop with the cover-up.

One day the entire truth will be revealed. I just hope it's sooner than later.
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2007, 05:16:14 PM »

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I know its extremely difficult to judge his shoe size but I am looking at the shoe in perspective to his ankle. It just does not look like size 14.IMO..If I was sitting next to him I am almost sure my shoes would be bigger..I wear size 12.



I see we are talking about shoe size this afternoon, Afternoon Monkeys.

I have to say again that in the pic posted, the sneaker size looks much larger than a 12 when you consider the reported size/height (6"4")  of Joran. That is a good pic for looking at his sneaker size BTW when compared with a few other pics like the one at pool side, where his feet are closer to the lens/camera taking the photo, making them appear bigger.

This pic was in 2002.


he has aged TERRIBLY

im 4 times his age and look 10 times better  Cool
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« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2007, 05:17:02 PM »

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well, i think he wears a size 14 ish

and i think he scrunched his toes to fit into a size 10.5

ALE should have checked to see if his HEAL was in the back of the shoe

they are INCOMPETANT  Mad


Not only are they incompetant, but they are liars who refuse to step up and tell the truth and stop with the cover-up.

One day the entire truth will be revealed. I just hope it's sooner than later.


im sure everyone is tired of it
but im still 100 percent confident the DUTCH are gonna get them all  Cool
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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2007, 05:18:05 PM »

those shoes are bigger than his head
and we know his head is big


size 14

BET THE FARM  Cool
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« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2007, 05:18:33 PM »

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well, i think he wears a size 14 ish

and i think he scrunched his toes to fit into a size 10.5

ALE should have checked to see if his HEAL was in the back of the shoe

they are INCOMPETANT  Mad


Robots- He is closer to wearing a 12-13-14-15 than a 9.5- 10.5 or 115...imo...
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